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In Oklahoma, a School District Is Debating Bible Distribution to Children

Posted by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:39 AM
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In Oklahoma, a School District Is Debating Bible Distribution to Children

October 12, 2012 By
 
When it comes to the distribution of religious books in public schools, the laws are very simple: If you allow the holy books of one faith to be handed out in school, you must allow the holy books of all faiths. You're better off, though, not handing out anything like that at all.

 

Gideons International - the group best known for their hotel room Bibles - has a long history of handing out Bibles to children in elementary school and they recently tried to get their books into the Grove Public Schools in northeastern Oklahoma. (Because I guess there are no churches in the state...?)

 

 

The school board, knowing a lawsuit would come their way if they allowed it, said no.

 

Earlier this week, though, more than 100 residents spoke out at a school board meeting urging the officials to reconsider their decision:

 

The Rev. Tony Wisdom and lawyer Robert Plunk urged the five-member school board to rethink the ban, which was approved this year after complaints and threats of a lawsuit from parents.

 

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Plunk told the board that the Rotary Club gives dictionaries to third-graders and that Bibles can be offered as long as it is done in the same manner.

 

The board did not address the policy during the meeting and took no action.

 

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Wisdom, who spoke to thunderous applause, said students should be given access to the greatest book ever written.

 

The minority should not override the majority, he said, adding that other religions also should have the right to give out materials.

 

Did they seriously just compare the Bible to a dictionary? That's crazy talk. One's full of wisdom and is an essential component of a good education... and the other's the Bible.

 

And what's with this minority/majority argument? The majority doesn't get to overturn the constitution on a whim.

 

At least the school leadership is opposed to bringing divisive religion into the district, right?

 

Of course not:

 

"There were people that wanted us to lose our jobs for allowing the Gideons to pass out Bibles last year," Superintendent Sandy Coaly said Wednesday.

 

"We were told if we allowed them to be passed out the school would be sued," Coaly said. "If it was me personally, we would have them (Bibles) in our backpack and read them 30 minutes a day."

 

30 minutes a day?! I guess if you cut out science class, you could always throw in Bible-readin'-time...

 

But here's what we'll do. If the school district allows these Bibles to be distributed in the schools, I vow to raise money on this site to purchase books about atheism and have them sent to every school in the district. I'll throw in some Korans while I'm at it.

 

Rev. Wisdom even said "other religions... should have the right to give out materials" so let's call his bluff.

 

Or we can just let the Freedom From Religion Foundation know. The fear of the impending lawsuit will scare the district back into submission.

 

(Thanks to Beau for the link)

 

by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:39 AM
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Lizardannie1966
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM
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What part of separation of church and state is not understood? What makes some of these groups and schools feel they're above that law?

jessilin0113
by Platinum Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:46 AM
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Seriously. There's nothing to debate here.
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mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:48 AM

SMDH - why do the good folks of Oklahoma feel Federal Law does not apply to them?

cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM
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Quoting Lizardannie1966:

What part of separation of church and state is not understood? What makes some of these groups and schools feel they're above that law?

There seem to be a lot of people in this country who think we live in a Theocracy. *sigh*


slashteddy
by Bronze Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 11:58 AM

This will probably end badly. :\ I read an article on Stumbleupon a few days ago about a woman who wanted to pass out informational stuff in her daughter's class (I think the mom was Pagan or something, her daughter was getting bombarded with questions and some bullying, so she figured it'd help if the kids knew more about it instead of thinking they were satan worshippers) but the school straight refused. Then the school started passing out Bibles. The mom challenged it and the school was like, 'sure, just leave the pamphlets in the office, we'll pass them out too." The school never passed them out and instead just finished distributing the Bibles, then when they were done tried to say like, "Well we're no longer distributing religious material so it doesn't matter." :\

Claire-Huxtable
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 12:01 PM
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They can offer Bibles to interested students as long as others can be equally available if a group donates them.

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Oct. 12, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Common sense folks, common sense.

mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Oct. 12, 2012 at 12:14 PM
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Yes, this is what happened in DS's school last year, his history teacher started the year saying children got extra credit if they brought in a bible, I was like hold up not everyone uses a bible and that's not fair. He then changed it to  Torra or Quran, I then sent DS in with a copy of new history of witchcraft and a copy of hammurabi's code and suddenly nobody got extra credit for anything. He also didn't reccomend DS for the Sophomore AP class even though DS had an A and got a 600 on his SOL hmm, no worries the guidance counselor saw the problem and corrected it.

Quoting slashteddy:

This will probably end badly. :\ I read an article on Stumbleupon a few days ago about a woman who wanted to pass out informational stuff in her daughter's class (I think the mom was Pagan or something, her daughter was getting bombarded with questions and some bullying, so she figured it'd help if the kids knew more about it instead of thinking they were satan worshippers) but the school straight refused. Then the school started passing out Bibles. The mom challenged it and the school was like, 'sure, just leave the pamphlets in the office, we'll pass them out too." The school never passed them out and instead just finished distributing the Bibles, then when they were done tried to say like, "Well we're no longer distributing religious material so it doesn't matter." :\


Lizardannie1966
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 12:30 PM
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Quoting cjsbmom:


Quoting Lizardannie1966:

What part of separation of church and state is not understood? What makes some of these groups and schools feel they're above that law?

There seem to be a lot of people in this country who think we live in a Theocracy. *sigh*

I believe that when it comes to teaching history, addressing the different beliefs of our country and the world--customs rich in different practices and beliefs, including religions--is important. I also believe that when teaching science, to address evolution is equally as important.

When educating our children, teachers need to present the ideas and facts and allow the kids to digest, analyze and question.

But to actually hand out a religious text at a public school is wrong.

missmansmommy
by on Oct. 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM
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I think that would be wonderful!! Stop distributing pro-homosexual propoganda and condoms, and give them something that will guide them and nourish them instead. Praise God! I hope it passes!! By the way, the seperation of church and state was to protect the church, not the state.

baby girlMissMansMommy

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