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UPDATE - OBAMA SAME AS LENIN AND MARX??

UPDATE - SORRY ABOUT BAD COMMENT...SOME LIBERAL DID WHAT THEY DO BEST - CRIED WHEN THEY KNEW THEY WERE WRONG AND AFTER ATTACKING ME AND I OUT THEM IN THERE PLACE ..... THEY TURNED ME INTO THE ADMIN TEAM. OK I WAS WRONG ON ONE OF MY POSTING BUT WOW CRYING LIKE THAT, GOING BEHIND MY BACK, BEING SNEAKY, WELL THAT IS THE LIBERAL SOCIALIST WAY OF LIFE. JUST ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG, REALIZE SOCIALISM IS NOT THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE AND MOVE TO CHINA. FREEDOM CANNOT BE SILENCED NOR BULLIED ......... remember The Declaration of Independence

President Obama has emulated Lenin in striving to increase state control over such “commanding heights” of our economy as energy,health care, finance,and education,with smaller forays into food,transportation and undoubtedly some areas I am overlooking.

Besides mimicking some of Lenin’s policy strategies, Obama also has adopted Karl Marx’s strategies for gradually socializing an economy. Before I spell out the Marxian nature of many of Obama’s policies, let me emphasize that I am not calling Obama a “Marxist-Leninist, period.” “Marxist-Leninist” connotes the brutal totalitarian police state of the late, unlamented Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. There is no comparison between Barack Obama’s statism and the genocidal, gulag-riddled regime of the Soviet Communists. That being said, Obama’s economic program is taken directly, if not deliberately, from the Marxist-Leninist playbook, and on that basis one may say that Obama tends toward Marxist-Leninist economics. Besides adopting the Leninist strategy of seeking greater control over the commanding heights of the economy, if one reviews Marx’s 10-point platform for how to socialize a country’s economy in stages (“The Communist Manifesto,” chapter two), one finds that Team Obama and his congressional progressive allies have taken actions to further the goals laid out in all 10 of the planks in the Marx platform.

CITED - MARK HENDRICKSON, Published 7/26/2012, President Obama's Marxist-Leninist Economics: Fact And Fiction, FORBES.COM, Retrieved 10/12/2012, http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/07/26/president-obamas-marxist-leninist-economics-fact-and-fiction/

HELL YEAH HE IS!!!
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by on Oct. 14, 2012 at 4:20 AM
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prettygirl326
by Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM
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 and who was bush like? since this is all his fault, along with "people." obama came into office while this country was a pile of shit and you all expect him to clean it all up and improve everything all at once. it took bush 8 years to fuck things up....so you give obama less than 4 and you say he is making it worse. well, things always get worse before it gets better. and obama would need more time to do what needs to be done. some of those things won't take effect immediately, but will benefit the country in the long run. problem is most people expect an individual solution, instead of solving issues for the good of everyone. if it don't apply to you or your family, you don't care. you will be mad. if it benefits you and your family, you will be glad and happy about it and probably think the president is doing a fine job. well one man has to take the blame...and he can't make everybody happy. i bet whoever is re elected, you will feel the same about them...you all argue about every single president that comes into office. if you some of you aren't happy with things, how about you run for office and see how "easy" it is to run a country.  

annabl1970
by Platinum Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/07/30/whiplash-mitt-romney-lavishes-praise-on-israels-socialist-government-controlled-healthcare-system/

Whiplash-Mitt Romney Lavishes Praise On Israel's Socialist, Government Controlled Healthcare System

tboontee Romney's main weakness lies in his less-than-thoughtful remarks, incurring unnecessary discomfort on others. In fact, Obama will likely be re-elected becau [...] stevewr Romney is giving us whiplash, but thankfully Rick's tunnel vision keeps my neck from snapping too far. I'll stay kiddy pool shallow, but that is plenty to [...] Rick Ungar, ContributorThanks for that dramatic statement of the obvious in noting that Israel is much smaller. I suppose I'll now have to rewrite the entire article. For starter [...] bob bear I have Medicare and its great! Now the facts! Medicare's operating expenses are 5%, while private health insurance companies charged 30% plus before the ne [...] stevewr Hi Rick, here are a few facts as opposed to your emotion diatribe. 1. The piece was not about whether the Israeli system would work or not, you just implie [...] Mark McNally So readers should "lay off reading conservative ideology" but YOU are free as journalist to preach liberal ideology? The ACA is NOT the Israeli health care [...] Rick Ungar, ContributorHa! If you think this is an ‘emotional diatribe', wait 'till you get a load of me when I'm angry! 1. Far be it from me to know what was in my mind when I w [...] Rick Ungar, ContributorMark- thanks so much for your advice with respect to how to practice journalism. I find that when people capitalize the word ‘you' at every opportunity, it [...]
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JERUSALEM, ISRAEL - JULY 29:  US Republican pr...

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Mitt Romney seems to be laboring under the impression that whatever he says in a foreign country will-like a weekend in Las Vegas-somehow stay in that foreign country.

Either that or he figures nobody back home is paying any attention.

Speaking today to a small group of Israeli contributors to his campaign, the GOP presidential candidate-and supposed sworn enemy of government controlled healthcare-had kind words for the success of Israel's healthcare system: 

"When our health care costs are completely out of control. Do you realize what health care spending is as a percentage of the GDP in Israel? 8 percent. You spend 8 percent of GDP on health care. And you're a pretty healthy nation"

A healthy nation, indeed.

With a life-expectancy rate that is the 4th best in the world (the United States is 38th) and a reputation for delivering high-quality care to all of its citizens by utilizing the most advanced medical technology available in a hospital system we can only envy from afar, Governor Romney is right to be impressed with the Israelis' ability to deliver excellent care while keeping spending down to 8 percent of GDP as compared to 18 percent here in the United States.

If only Romney's appreciation of Israel's success did not fly smack in the face of his constant, ideologically based rhetoric guaranteed to insure that only the wealthiest Americans get a taste of the healthcare Israelis receive as their birthright.

Or does the Governor simply not understand that Israel's healthcare success story-including their ability to control costs- is the direct result of the nation's socialized healthcare system that has existed since the country's founding in 1948 and institutionalized by law in 1995?

Today, the nation of Israel requires that every Israeli belong to one of four health maintenance organizations (that's right...mandated participation)-each operating as a non-profit and each funded by the Israeli government via a progressive tax that every citizen is obligated to pay based on their earnings.

What's more, the uniform benefits offered by the HMOs are established by the central government and must be made available to every single citizen-regardless of their medical circumstances (the phrase ‘pre-existing condition' apparently does not exist in the Hebrew language.)

And those basic benefits made available to all Israelis are pretty darn good.

They include medical diagnosis and treatment, preventative medicine, any required hospitalization for any reason whatsoever, surgery, organ transplants, ambulance or transport service, treatment for drug abuse and alcoholism, medical equipment and appliances, obstetrics and fertility treatments, all prescribed pharmaceuticals, and physiotherapy and occupational therapy.

 

 

annabl1970
by Platinum Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:40 PM

I have to make this in separate post!

Quoting annabl1970:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/07/30/whiplash-mitt-romney-lavishes-praise-on-israels-socialist-government-controlled-healthcare-system/

Whiplash-Mitt Romney Lavishes Praise On Israel's Socialist, Government Controlled Healthcare System

tboontee Romney's main weakness lies in his less-than-thoughtful remarks, incurring unnecessary discomfort on others. In fact, Obama will likely be re-elected becau [...] stevewr Romney is giving us whiplash, but thankfully Rick's tunnel vision keeps my neck from snapping too far. I'll stay kiddy pool shallow, but that is plenty to [...]Rick Ungar, ContributorThanks for that dramatic statement of the obvious in noting that Israel is much smaller. I suppose I'll now have to rewrite the entire article. For starter [...]bob bear I have Medicare and its great! Now the facts! Medicare's operating expenses are 5%, while private health insurance companies charged 30% plus before the ne [...] stevewr Hi Rick, here are a few facts as opposed to your emotion diatribe. 1. The piece was not about whether the Israeli system would work or not, you just implie [...]Mark McNally So readers should "lay off reading conservative ideology" but YOU are free as journalist to preach liberal ideology? The ACA is NOT the Israeli health care [...] Rick Ungar, ContributorHa! If you think this is an ‘emotional diatribe', wait 'till you get a load of me when I'm angry! 1. Far be it from me to know what was in my mind when I w [...]Rick Ungar, ContributorMark- thanks so much for your advice with respect to how to practice journalism. I find that when people capitalize the word ‘you' at every opportunity, it [...]
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JERUSALEM, ISRAEL - JULY 29:  US Republican pr...

(Image credit: Getty Images via @daylife)

Mitt Romney seems to be laboring under the impression that whatever he says in a foreign country will-like a weekend in Las Vegas-somehow stay in that foreign country.

Either that or he figures nobody back home is paying any attention.

Speaking today to a small group of Israeli contributors to his campaign, the GOP presidential candidate-and supposed sworn enemy of government controlled healthcare-had kind words for the success of Israel's healthcare system: 

"When our health care costs are completely out of control. Do you realize what health care spending is as a percentage of the GDP in Israel? 8 percent. You spend 8 percent of GDP on health care. And you're a pretty healthy nation"

A healthy nation, indeed.

With a life-expectancy rate that is the 4th best in the world (the United States is 38th) and a reputation for delivering high-quality care to all of its citizens by utilizing the most advanced medical technology available in a hospital system we can only envy from afar, Governor Romney is right to be impressed with the Israelis' ability to deliver excellent care while keeping spending down to 8 percent of GDP as compared to 18 percent here in the United States.

If only Romney's appreciation of Israel's success did not fly smack in the face of his constant, ideologically based rhetoric guaranteed to insure that only the wealthiest Americans get a taste of the healthcare Israelis receive as their birthright.

Or does the Governor simply not understand that Israel's healthcare success story-including their ability to control costs- is the direct result of the nation's socializedhealthcare system that has existed since the country's founding in 1948 and institutionalized by law in 1995?

Today, the nation of Israel requires that every Israeli belong to one of four health maintenance organizations (that's right...mandated participation)-each operating as a non-profit and each funded by the Israeli government via a progressive tax that every citizen is obligated to pay based on their earnings.

What's more, the uniform benefitsoffered by the HMOs are established by the central government and must be made available to every single citizen-regardless of their medical circumstances (the phrase ‘pre-existing condition' apparently does not exist in the Hebrew language.)

And those basic benefits made available to all Israelis are pretty darn good.

They include medical diagnosis and treatment, preventative medicine, any required hospitalization for any reason whatsoever, surgery, organ transplants, ambulance or transport service, treatment for drug abuse and alcoholism, medical equipment and appliances, obstetrics and fertility treatments, all prescribed pharmaceuticals, and physiotherapy and occupational therapy.

 

 


FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM
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Quoting krysstizzle:

So, after reading some other posts, I feel very comfortable saying that the OP is someone I will never take seriously, as it seems that this little blurb is the only thing she can reply (no matter the subject) , aside from personal insults.

What a ray of sunshine.

Right there with you.

She applies such 'logic' to her opinions, it astounds me. ;)

She is such a good Christian.

She is entertaining, that is for certain.

"A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song." ~ Maya Angelou

MomTiara19
by Bronze Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM
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Hi,

I am unsure what you mean in this post and what you are implying?Obama is not doing anything different that hasnt been already done by any other democratic president.We have had welfare in place for decacades?The economy went down because of the recession and now is getting better.

You are making Obama sound different and extreme.The only thing different is his skin tone.

~Tia

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:44 PM
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My daughter showed me a youtube video of some woman yelling in a crowd, calling the President a communist.

The reported tried to engage her in conversation.  He asked her what a communist was, to her.  What it meant, to her.  She had no answer.  She kept telling the reporter he needed to get schooled on the subject.

Actually, she did.  She was ignorant and loud.  And, of course, rude because she could not answer the question.

She sounds some what familiar.

Lissa0985
by Bronze Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:45 PM
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This belongs in the "not stating anything new here" category

glitterteaz
by Ruby Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM
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As opposed to the bible? There is a fine moral piece of diction NOT

Quoting MomGoneGreen470:

Get off your high horse, don't get all "get the Muslim" on us and read the article. Also I was a student of the quran and that is one messed up religion!


Quoting Healthystart30:

I lived in a socialist welfare state, and it was not bad at all. How is he like them? Is it because he wants everyone to have healthcare? Many students learn about Marxist Lenin communism in school, that doesn't automatically turn you into one, I am learning about Islam in school right now, so does that automatically turn me into a Muslim?


shannonnigans
by Gold Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 2:52 PM
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Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Oct. 14, 2012 at 3:04 PM
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Quoting annabl1970:

Ah F..shut up! I was born in USSR, I grown up in USSR. Don't talk BS.

Many countries have some socialistic elements in their economic system. In different level of course.

USA is capitalist country, but SS is social program.

Sweden and Israel adapted A LOTS OF  socialized polices.

Q.F.T.

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