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UPDATE - OBAMA SAME AS LENIN AND MARX??

UPDATE - SORRY ABOUT BAD COMMENT...SOME LIBERAL DID WHAT THEY DO BEST - CRIED WHEN THEY KNEW THEY WERE WRONG AND AFTER ATTACKING ME AND I OUT THEM IN THERE PLACE ..... THEY TURNED ME INTO THE ADMIN TEAM. OK I WAS WRONG ON ONE OF MY POSTING BUT WOW CRYING LIKE THAT, GOING BEHIND MY BACK, BEING SNEAKY, WELL THAT IS THE LIBERAL SOCIALIST WAY OF LIFE. JUST ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG, REALIZE SOCIALISM IS NOT THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE AND MOVE TO CHINA. FREEDOM CANNOT BE SILENCED NOR BULLIED ......... remember The Declaration of Independence

President Obama has emulated Lenin in striving to increase state control over such “commanding heights” of our economy as energy,health care, finance,and education,with smaller forays into food,transportation and undoubtedly some areas I am overlooking.

Besides mimicking some of Lenin’s policy strategies, Obama also has adopted Karl Marx’s strategies for gradually socializing an economy. Before I spell out the Marxian nature of many of Obama’s policies, let me emphasize that I am not calling Obama a “Marxist-Leninist, period.” “Marxist-Leninist” connotes the brutal totalitarian police state of the late, unlamented Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. There is no comparison between Barack Obama’s statism and the genocidal, gulag-riddled regime of the Soviet Communists. That being said, Obama’s economic program is taken directly, if not deliberately, from the Marxist-Leninist playbook, and on that basis one may say that Obama tends toward Marxist-Leninist economics. Besides adopting the Leninist strategy of seeking greater control over the commanding heights of the economy, if one reviews Marx’s 10-point platform for how to socialize a country’s economy in stages (“The Communist Manifesto,” chapter two), one finds that Team Obama and his congressional progressive allies have taken actions to further the goals laid out in all 10 of the planks in the Marx platform.

CITED - MARK HENDRICKSON, Published 7/26/2012, President Obama's Marxist-Leninist Economics: Fact And Fiction, FORBES.COM, Retrieved 10/12/2012, http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/07/26/president-obamas-marxist-leninist-economics-fact-and-fiction/

HELL YEAH HE IS!!!
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by on Oct. 14, 2012 at 4:20 AM
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funnymommy71
by Member on Oct. 19, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Ok, that is your opinion and your experience.  I guess the thousands of people that come the Province closest to me to be treated are all considered rich......I will have to check that out further.

Quoting mehamil1:

Out of pocket expenses for cancer treatment is only possible for those who have a lot of money. Rich Canadians can do that. Ordinary Canadians cannot. However, if a Canadian gets cancer, they get covered. No Canadian goes into debt or loses their house because they got sick. Also, Canadians have a higher cancer survival rate than Americans. Why? Because ALL Canadians can get care! Whereas too many people here in the states do not. Even if they do have insurance. So no, you did not make my point. Ordinary middle/lower income Canadians are not getting healthcare in the US. They cannot afford it. 

Quoting funnymommy71:

"Because those Canadians have the means to not have to stand in line with the rest of the Canadian people".  Well, you just made my point, as to why thousands cross into my border city (NO- they are not rich!!) for lifesaving cancer and heart surgery that THEY can't wait for Months and up to a year for.  Yes, they are covered, but willing to pay US hospitals for treatment they need much sooner.  And, this has been going on for MANY years.

Quoting mehamil1:

Because those Canadians have the means to not have to stand in line with the rest of the Canadian people. America doesn't have these long wait times for treatment because 50 million people are NOT in line. And Canadians with cancer get care quickly and they have a higher chance of surviving than those who get it in the states. This is because Canadians have universal health care and everyone is covered. Whereas there are many Americans who get cancer and it is caught to late (because too many don't have insurance or their insurance is crappy) and they don't survive the rounds of chemo. 

My dad's side of the family is from Sweden. That place is amazing. However, I've looked into immigrating and it's stupid hard. Good lord they make it complicated. Japan and Germany are much worse though. 



mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Oct. 19, 2012 at 9:55 PM

I would look into it more. There is no way ordinary middle class Canadians could pay out of pocket for cancer treatment here in the US. It's thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. Why do that when they can get treatment in Canada? The waiting line for cancer treatment is not what you think it is. Cancer is serious and they get treatment immediately. The stuff that people have to wait for are non life threatening conditions. Cancer is a life threatening condition and they get care immediately. 

Those Canadians are probably getting treatment for stuff that is non life threatening and not that expensive. I cannot fathom how a middle class Canadian would ever in their right mind come to the US for cancer treatment when it's covered in Canada and they get it immediately. 

Quoting funnymommy71:

Ok, that is your opinion and your experience.  I guess the thousands of people that come the Province closest to me to be treated are all considered rich......I will have to check that out further.

Quoting mehamil1:

Out of pocket expenses for cancer treatment is only possible for those who have a lot of money. Rich Canadians can do that. Ordinary Canadians cannot. However, if a Canadian gets cancer, they get covered. No Canadian goes into debt or loses their house because they got sick. Also, Canadians have a higher cancer survival rate than Americans. Why? Because ALL Canadians can get care! Whereas too many people here in the states do not. Even if they do have insurance. So no, you did not make my point. Ordinary middle/lower income Canadians are not getting healthcare in the US. They cannot afford it. 

Quoting funnymommy71:

"Because those Canadians have the means to not have to stand in line with the rest of the Canadian people".  Well, you just made my point, as to why thousands cross into my border city (NO- they are not rich!!) for lifesaving cancer and heart surgery that THEY can't wait for Months and up to a year for.  Yes, they are covered, but willing to pay US hospitals for treatment they need much sooner.  And, this has been going on for MANY years.


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