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We have no clue what Obama is, yet he is the US President?! EDIT

Posted by on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:25 PM
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 First I want to start by saying, I don't care what race he is. This IS NOT about the color of his skin...

I'm worried that he have a US President, that may not even be a legit US citizen... It worries me to think, that maybe we have all fooled ourselfs and allowed a spy to run our country... Take a look

 

http://www.obamacitizenshipfacts.org/  This shows it all, or you can read some of what I copied and pasted from that link below...

 

 EDIT:::: Call it fear, Im not saying that I'm not worried... But let's think back to noahs ark.... everybody laughed and thought he was nuts, but once the floods came, who was pounding on the door of his ark wanting it? I hope that I'm wrong, I hope he is what he claims to be... But if not, where will you be then?

Obama Citizenship Facts and Birth Certificate Facts

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Mountain Publius Goat on Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:35 pm

Obama Citizenship Facts

and Obama Birth Certificate Facts FACT: Obama's father was never a U.S. citizen nor was his father an immigrant to the USA nor was his father even a permanent resident of the USA. Obama's father was merely sojourning as a transient in the USA as a student for a few years and returned to Kenya. Thus, Obama is not and never can be an Article II "natural born" citizen of the USA. When Obama was born he was not a "natural born citizen" since both parents of a child must be citizens at the time of birth of the child in order for the child to be a "natural born" citizen. In addition to the requirement as to the parents citizenship status, the child must also be born in the USA. Obama may be a "born citizen" depending on the evidence in Hawaii. But "born" is NOT synonymous with "natural born". And I am not talking about the difference between natural child birth and a "C" section. Natural in this sense refers to the "natural law" definition of citizenship. Obama can never be considered a "natural born citizen" no matter where he was born because his father was not a U.S. citizen. Both parents must be citizens at the time of birth of the child in the USA for the child to be a "natural born citizen" per our Constitution's framers intent and the "natural law", as codified by Vattel in 1758 in his legal reference treatise, "The Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law". The "divided loyalties" concerns of the framers of a person who is selected to serve as our President and Commander-in-Chief of our military comes into play. Thus the framers required a "natural born" citizen only mandate in the U.S. Constitution for the Office of President and Commander-in-Chief of our military. 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2kKNTjH70 "Natural born citizenship" is defined in the 250 year old scholarly book, "Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law", written in 1758, decades before our Constitution and was used as a scholarly reference by our U.S. Constitution's framers. Some excerpts, "... natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. ... I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country". See more here: http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1169

Also see this chart which shows who is and who is not a "natural born citizen" depending on whom your parents are and where you are born: http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=1467 An easily printable and down-loadable copy of this chart explaining the various types of citizenship mentioned in our Constitution is available at SCRIBD.com: http://www.scribd.com/doc/11737124/

Comment and observation:

When Obama wrote his first book he titled it "Dreams from My Father". He wrote of his father in Kenya and how his father hoped and dreamed of changing the Kenyan government and the world to Socialism and Marxism. How prophetic Vattel's words are in describing natural law and the propensity of man to identify with the land of their father. Obama did not write "Dreams from My Mother" and of America for his source of inspiration, dreams, and aspirations. Obama wrote of his father and his father's Kenyan goals for Socialism and Marxism as his inspiration and his dreams of what he wanted to accomplish in America and for the world. Again, we must look to his first book title and his first book contents (and you must read the original un-scrubbed, first edition version to get the absolute passion of his hatred of whites and the American system of government) to learn where Obama's true heart and soul loyalties are. And they are not to the USA, the birth place of his mother. His loyalties are to his father and other places outside the USA. He considers himself a "citizen of the world", as he said in Berlin, before he considers himself to be a citizen of the USA. His political and familial foreign influences and interests and loyalties are obvious. As an adult he even meddled in Kenyan politics to help a member of his and his father's tribe there achieve power in Kenya. This is not the type of President and Commander in Chief of our military that John Jay and General George Washington meant to have in future Presidents when they put the term "natural born citizen" in Article II of our Constitution as a necessary qualification for that singular and most powerful position in our new nation. They did not want a future President to have any recent familial and/or foreign allegiances, affinities, or influences on him. Jay's and Washington's worst fears about a possible future nation's leader have now been fulfilled by ignoring our Constitution with the seating of Obama in the Oval Office. The Constitution was ignored in this election cycle with the help of an enabling Main Stream Media. It is now up to "We the People" to undue the wrong done against the Constitution and to the founding father's of this great nation.

FACT:

Obama has NOT provided a certified copy of an original, typed, vault copy, long-form, birth certificate, signed by his mother and delivering doctor with the name of the hospital thereon, to be used to conclusively prove one of the two key elements used in determining his "natural born" citizenship status per the U.S. Constitution, i.e., where he was born. All he has provided to the electorate and public to see is a digital image on the internet of a purported copy of a short, summary, computer printed form called a Certification of Live Birth, aka COLB, which is not a Birth Certificate. No one in any controlling legal authority and official expert capacity has ever been allowed to examine the purported computer made paper document displayed in the digital images and digital pictures on the internet. Several document experts have stated on the internet, which is the same virtual reality "matrix" that the document image exists in and is being displayed in, that the document and images are forgeries and/or have been altered
. Being a "natural born citizen" is required to serve in the office of the Presidency under our U.S. Constitution. Obama has only produced an internet digital image of a computer-generated, short-form, registration of birth form called a "Certification of Live Birth", (aka COLB). And some question the genuineness of that proffered document. But note, it does not say "Certificate" it says "Certification". Thus it is not a Birth "Certificate". And this is a key difference in the discussion of what Obama has proffered and what he has not. Only the actual long form original typed version signed by the mother and delivering doctor and/or other witnesses is a Birth "Certificate" under Hawaiian law and to the courts. In Hawaii that document is named "Certificate of Live Birth". Note, the change in the one word, "Certificate" of Live Birth (aka long form Birth Certificate), not "Certification" of Live Birth (aka COLB, the computer generated short form), which is what Obama has proffered thus far. And a short form "COLB" is not a conclusive legal document to prove birth and is not acceptable to most courts for proof of

birth facts. A short form "COLB" shows a birth was registered. But not by whom and exactly how. Nor does it provide the facts necessary to trace the facts to independent third party witnesses or facts, such as the name of the hospital or doctor. See videos below for more on that. So, Obama has proved his birth was registered in Hawaii but has not proven conclusively that he was physically born there, nor what exactly is stated or not stated on the long form document filled out in 1961, if one exists. Read the next paragraph as to why. Registration of live births under the vague laws in Hawaii in 1961 is not proof of birth in Hawaii at all. Read the laws on the books in Hawaii for registration of births. Their laws are very, very lax as to registering births. "Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal

 

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TCgirlatheart
by TC on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM
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Been there, done that, 2008. Next?
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Aslen
by Silver Member on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:27 PM
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OMFG get the hell OVER IT! He won both the popular AND electoral vote, Romney conceded, it's DONE. Besides, this has been done and done to DEATH. It's OLD, and now? You just look like a sad, sorry sore loser

NWP
by guerrilla girl on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:27 PM

More fear mongering OP..Boring

On another note...I love your avi. Do you know what it is about?

New World Peace

schatzi869
by on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:28 PM
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Quit being a fear monger. He's an American. Get over it.
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mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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OH dear God, I vote you go live on the island with nugent and Trump.

rfurlongg
by on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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There is nothing that will ever convince the birthers. Period. He will always be a "foreigner." Fine.

The vote has occurred and the people spoke clearly. It is time to move on. 

Momniscient
by Ruby Member on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:29 PM
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Really? Seriously?

Gods it just keeps getting dumber.

brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:31 PM
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This. Nothing will satisfy them.

Quoting rfurlongg:

There is nothing that will ever convince the birthers. Period. He will always be a "foreigner." Fine.

The vote has occurred and the people spoke clearly. It is time to move on. 


Quoting mikiemom:

Doesn't matter that his mother and grandparents were born and raised in Kansas - making him a citizen regardless of where he was born. It doesn't matter that there is a valid birth certificate from Hawaii where he was born.

these people are idiots and this thread should be deleted just out of well it's just pure stupidity.


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by Satan on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:33 PM
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Not. Even. Sighworthy.
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by Bronze Member on Nov. 7, 2012 at 7:35 PM
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The Donald....is that you???

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