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Election map vs Civil War map

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by on Nov. 7, 2012 at 10:48 PM
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JustCJ
by Silver Member on Nov. 8, 2012 at 12:10 AM

My county in upstate NY is blood red. But, it doesn't have a major city in it like Rochester (monroe county) or Buffalo (Erie county). But my state is blue.

squeekers
by Bronze Member on Nov. 8, 2012 at 12:23 AM

 spooky

JustCJ
by Silver Member on Nov. 8, 2012 at 12:30 AM
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common kissy show the maps with the individual counties...show where the real racism lives.

Due9
by Bronze Member on Nov. 8, 2012 at 1:18 AM
Get the damn chip off your shoulder and go find a new identity that's more positive.
meriana
by Platinum Member on Nov. 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM
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During the time of the Civil War, the south, which was largely agricultural, had a very different view, different priorities, etc. (which were influenced by their way of life),  than the industrialized (and becoming more industrialized) north. The maps, no matter which one is looked at, do show the differences between the industrialized or more industrialized, larger city areas and the more agricultural areas, rural ones. Ones way of life, their means of making a living, etc. will always influence their views, priorities and daily decisions as well as political ones.

Sisteract
by Whoopie on Nov. 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM
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Land mass doesn't count, actual people do-

Quoting JustCJ:

All the votes in the blue states...the majority of the blue counties..had big cities in them. Most counties in ALL of the states were red. Unfortunately, the "cities" with the larger populations decided and of course were blue...how much of that is minority? Racist? Sure as hell could be.


tooptimistic
by Kelly on Nov. 8, 2012 at 12:22 PM
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Quoting JustCJ:

All the votes in the blue states...the majority of the blue counties..had big cities in them. Most counties in ALL of the states were red. Unfortunately, the "cities" with the larger populations decided and of course were blue...how much of that is minority? Racist? Sure as hell could be.

Yeah, and look how much of the map is red.  Elections now are decided by the big cities, the rest of us shouldn't even bother to vote.  Look at how red Virginia was, Florida was, Ohio was..

krysstizzle
by on Nov. 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Oh, come on now, that's a bit of a cop-out. That's half the truth. The other half is that individuals determine and shape the priorities. I.e. culture influences the individual, but the individual also influences the culture. 

Quoting meriana:

During the time of the Civil War, the south, which was largely agricultural, had a very different view, different priorities, etc. (which were influenced by their way of life),  than the industrialized (and becoming more industrialized) north. The maps, no matter which one is looked at, do show the differences between the industrialized or more industrialized, larger city areas and the more agricultural areas, rural ones. Ones way of life, their means of making a living, etc. will always influence their views, priorities and daily decisions as well as political ones.


MeAndTommyLee
by Platinum Member on Nov. 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM

That is far to much information for CM.  Are you suggesting that the United States has a HISTORY and each past era has reflected the times, and attitudes of a people navigating a brand new land? 

Quoting meriana:

During the time of the Civil War, the south, which was largely agricultural, had a very different view, different priorities, etc. (which were influenced by their way of life),  than the industrialized (and becoming more industrialized) north. The maps, no matter which one is looked at, do show the differences between the industrialized or more industrialized, larger city areas and the more agricultural areas, rural ones. Ones way of life, their means of making a living, etc. will always influence their views, priorities and daily decisions as well as political ones.


p1r4t3cr0pc1rcl
by on Nov. 8, 2012 at 12:41 PM

How is it an agenda, it is only a comparison...

Quoting jcrew6:

Why the need to try and make a model fit an agenda to associate the civil war to American votes in 2012?



Quoting krysstizzle:

The original map comparison works better in this example. If you wanted to use your map, a breakdown of popular vote by county, you'd have to compare it to something like slavery per capita at the county (or similar) level. 

Quoting jcrew6:

You are comparing electoral map to civil war map?





Lets look at popular vote map. Tells a different story. Just goes to show someone( like the OP) can manipulate data to serve a narrow minded agenda.





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