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The USA Constitution is a failure

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According to Ron Paul

In Final Address, Ron Paul Declares ‘Our Constitution Has Failed’



In a 52-minute address that will likely be his last in Congress, Texas Representative Ron Paul has declared America’s Constitution a failure.


“Our Constitution, which was intended to limit government power and abuse, has failed,” the Republican representative said. “The Founders warned that a free society depends on a virtuous and moral people. The current crisis reflects that their concerns were justified.”

ABC News reports that for Libertarian-leaning Ron Paul, the “current crisis” includes the recession, as well as government breaches in authority and restrictions on individual liberty. Paul, 77, is retiring from Congress at the end of the current term after severing several stints, adding up to 23 years, in the House of Representatives. He has been in Congress consecutively since 1997.

“This may well be the last time I speak on the House Floor, Paul began. “At the end of the year I’ll leave Congress after 23 years in office over a 36 year period. My goals in 1976 were the same as they are today: promote peace and prosperity by a strict adherence to the principles of individual liberty.”

According to The Blaze, Paul’s remarks seemed to acknowledge that he fell short of success in those goals.

“In spite of my efforts, the government has grown exponentially, taxes remain excessive, and the prolific increase of incomprehensible regulations continues,” Paul said. “Wars are constant and pursued without congressional declaration, deficits rise to the sky, poverty is rampant and dependency on the federal government is now worse than any time in our history.”

One of the things Paul laments in his farewell address to Congress is the lack of morality, and the decline of religion among Americans. This, he claims, is part of why our Constitution has failed.

“The Founders were convinced that a free society could not exist without a moral people,” Representative Ron Paul said.” Just writing rules won’t work if the people choose to ignore them. Today the rule of law written in the Constitution has little meaning for most Americans, especially those who work in Washington DC. Benjamin Franklin claimed “only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.” John Adams concurred: “Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Paul, who’s son Rand Paul currently serves as a US Senator from Kentucky, has inspired a generation of voters and politicians, but still has failed to generate mainstream support in three presidential bids. With his time in Congress winding down, Paul seemed resigned to the fact that neither side of the aisle had heard his message. Just as he had throughout his career, however, Paul delivered in nonetheless.

“I have come to one firm conviction after these many years of trying to figure out ‘the plain truth of things.’ The best chance for achieving peace and prosperity, for the maximum number of people worldwide, is to pursue the cause of LIBERTY. If you find this to be a worthwhile message, spread it throughout the land.”


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by on Nov. 14, 2012 at 11:27 PM
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cammibear
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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I'm not speaking of a particular year. Our moral decline has been slow and steady.


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What years specifically are you speaking of ?



Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.





There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.






Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?







Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.


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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:15 PM
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So you can not name a time that America was Moral?



Quoting cammibear:

I'm not speaking of a particular year. Our moral decline has been slow and steady.




Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What years specifically are you speaking of ?





Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.







There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.








Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?









Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.


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thecoffeefairy
by Bronze Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:25 PM
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Morality is subjective. I find it immoral not to provide citizens with health care. I find it immoral to not cherish our born children and elderly. I find it immoral to allow corporations to put profit over people.
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onethentwins
by Bronze Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:27 PM
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From since when? 1776? And who gets to set these moral standards?

And maybe those things were actually evil all along.

Quoting cammibear:

I'm not speaking of a particular year. Our moral decline has been slow and steady.


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What years specifically are you speaking of ?



Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.





There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.






Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?







Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.



rfurlongg
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:28 PM
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Morality is time and culturally specific. Let us not forget that at the time the constitution was written women and people of color were deemed 2nd class citizen and unable to vote. They were also not afforded equal education, land ownership, etc. Is that moral? Our morality is clearly different than it was; but whether or not it is worse is debatable.

Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.
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onethentwins
by Bronze Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM
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Quoting thecoffeefairy:

Morality is subjective. I find it immoral not to provide citizens with health care. I find it immoral to not cherish our born children and elderly. I find it immoral to allow corporations to put profit over people.

Right on! I also think it's immoral to descriminate people because of their sexuality, or to try to ostracize them. I find lying immoral.

lga1965
by Ruby Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:33 PM
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What about the Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were drowned or hung etc? How about the cruelty involved in slavery? Maybe you need to read about our history ....people werent any more "moral "when the constitution was written. You're living in a dream workd, rewriting history!
Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.



There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.



Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?





Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.

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lga1965
by Ruby Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:36 PM
So do I.

Quoting thecoffeefairy:

Morality is subjective. I find it immoral not to provide citizens with health care. I find it immoral to not cherish our born children and elderly. I find it immoral to allow corporations to put profit over people.
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cammibear
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 5:58 PM
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Since I would say all of our Founders had a biblical worldview, it follows that their societal morals used biblical principals as the standard of morality.

I'm gonna make alot of people mad by saying this, but I believe our moral decline began with a secular humanistic worldview that was at odds with our biblical worldview. We went from having a standard by which to measure morality, right and wrong, good and evil, to what we have today...nothing by which to measure morality at all. Oh yeah, I know they believe human reason is the means by which to measure morality. We also know that such arbitrary human reasoning has led to the justification of mass slaughter of human lives.


Quoting onethentwins:

From since when? 1776? And who gets to set these moral standards?

And maybe those things were actually evil all along.


Quoting cammibear:

I'm not speaking of a particular year. Our moral decline has been slow and steady.





Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What years specifically are you speaking of ?





Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.







There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.









Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?









Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.






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krysstizzle
by DeepThought on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:04 PM
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So when was this again, specifically? Was it when half the country owned slaves because of state sanctioned slavery? Or when  entire cultures were slaughtered and treated like vermin because of "manifest destiny"? Maybe it was when we forced children to work 15 hour days in stifling factories. Or when we forced those with disabilities into boxes in asylums and forgot about them. Or do you mean later? Like when we forced Japanese immigrants into concentration camps because we were paranoid. Or perhaps when the CIA was routinely involved in dark of the night experiments on unsuspecting citizens, like MK Ultra or the shamefullness at Tuskeegee. Or was it when women weren't allowed to vote and were treated as second class citizens?

Well? Sounds pretty goddamn moral to me . Pshaw.


Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.

There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?



Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.


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