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According to Ron Paul

In Final Address, Ron Paul Declares ‘Our Constitution Has Failed’



In a 52-minute address that will likely be his last in Congress, Texas Representative Ron Paul has declared America’s Constitution a failure.


“Our Constitution, which was intended to limit government power and abuse, has failed,” the Republican representative said. “The Founders warned that a free society depends on a virtuous and moral people. The current crisis reflects that their concerns were justified.”

ABC News reports that for Libertarian-leaning Ron Paul, the “current crisis” includes the recession, as well as government breaches in authority and restrictions on individual liberty. Paul, 77, is retiring from Congress at the end of the current term after severing several stints, adding up to 23 years, in the House of Representatives. He has been in Congress consecutively since 1997.

“This may well be the last time I speak on the House Floor, Paul began. “At the end of the year I’ll leave Congress after 23 years in office over a 36 year period. My goals in 1976 were the same as they are today: promote peace and prosperity by a strict adherence to the principles of individual liberty.”

According to The Blaze, Paul’s remarks seemed to acknowledge that he fell short of success in those goals.

“In spite of my efforts, the government has grown exponentially, taxes remain excessive, and the prolific increase of incomprehensible regulations continues,” Paul said. “Wars are constant and pursued without congressional declaration, deficits rise to the sky, poverty is rampant and dependency on the federal government is now worse than any time in our history.”

One of the things Paul laments in his farewell address to Congress is the lack of morality, and the decline of religion among Americans. This, he claims, is part of why our Constitution has failed.

“The Founders were convinced that a free society could not exist without a moral people,” Representative Ron Paul said.” Just writing rules won’t work if the people choose to ignore them. Today the rule of law written in the Constitution has little meaning for most Americans, especially those who work in Washington DC. Benjamin Franklin claimed “only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.” John Adams concurred: “Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Paul, who’s son Rand Paul currently serves as a US Senator from Kentucky, has inspired a generation of voters and politicians, but still has failed to generate mainstream support in three presidential bids. With his time in Congress winding down, Paul seemed resigned to the fact that neither side of the aisle had heard his message. Just as he had throughout his career, however, Paul delivered in nonetheless.

“I have come to one firm conviction after these many years of trying to figure out ‘the plain truth of things.’ The best chance for achieving peace and prosperity, for the maximum number of people worldwide, is to pursue the cause of LIBERTY. If you find this to be a worthwhile message, spread it throughout the land.”


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by on Nov. 14, 2012 at 11:27 PM
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cammibear
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM
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Salem Witch Trials happened long before our Constitution was written. And the guilt of knowing slavery was wrong and was a violation of our Constitution and moral standard that every person is created equal was what led many to the fight to end slavery.


Quoting lga1965:

What about the Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were drowned or hung etc? How about the cruelty involved in slavery? Maybe you need to read about our history ....people werent any more "moral "when the constitution was written. You're living in a dream workd, rewriting history!
Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.



There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.




Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?







Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.


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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM
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She doesn't want to answer

She doesn't want to admit that she would prefer our country when minorities had no rights and women didnt either



Quoting krysstizzle:

So when was this again, specifically? Was it when half the country owned slaves because of state sanctioned slavery? Or when  entire cultures were slaughtered and treated like vermin because of "manifest destiny"? Maybe it was when we forced children to work 15 hour days in stifling factories. Or when we forced those with disabilities into boxes in asylums and forgot about them. Or do you mean later? Like when we forced Japanese immigrants into concentration camps because we were paranoid. Or perhaps when the CIA was routinely involved in dark of the night experiments on unsuspecting citizens, like MK Ultra or the shamefullness at Tuskeegee. Or was it when women weren't allowed to vote and were treated as second class citizens?

Well? Sounds pretty goddamn moral to me . Pshaw.


Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.



There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.





Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?





Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.



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krysstizzle
by DeepThought on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM
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That 'biblical morality' has led to millions of death. The Inquisition, the Crusades, Manifest Destiny, to name a very, very few. 

Please.

Quoting cammibear:

Since I would say all of our Founders had a biblical worldview, it follows that their societal morals used biblical principals as the standard of morality.

I'm gonna make alot of people mad by saying this, but I believe our moral decline began with a secular humanistic worldview that was at odds with our biblical worldview. We went from having a standard by which to measure morality, right and wrong, good and evil, to what we have today...nothing by which to measure morality at all. Oh yeah, I know they believe human reason is the means by which to measure morality. We also know that such arbitrary human reasoning has led to the justification of mass slaughter of human lives.


Quoting onethentwins:

From since when? 1776? And who gets to set these moral standards?

And maybe those things were actually evil all along.


Quoting cammibear:

I'm not speaking of a particular year. Our moral decline has been slow and steady.





Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What years specifically are you speaking of ?





Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.







There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.









Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?









Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.







Joqui
by Joqui on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:07 PM
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I am misunderstanding as to how our morality has declined?

If anything, our morality has not necessarily declined, we live in a generation now that "gossip" isn't just heard through the grape vine, it is video taped, youtubed, tweeted, instagramed and tagged on FB. #justsaying (hash tag and all) 

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:10 PM
And millions to fight back

There is an exception for slave owners in our Constitution ..so how moral were the framers?

Women only received the right to vote in 1920 and were treated like shit and couldn't work

After slavery were blacks treated equally? Nope. Actually they made new unconstitutional laws to subjagate them...

So what time period were you referring too??


Quoting cammibear:

Salem Witch Trials happened long before our Constitution was written. And the guilt of knowing slavery was wrong and was a violation of our Constitution and moral standard that every person is created equal was what led many to the fight to end slavery.




Quoting lga1965:

What about the Salem Witch trials in which innocent women were drowned or hung etc? How about the cruelty involved in slavery? Maybe you need to read about our history ....people werent any more "moral "when the constitution was written. You're living in a dream workd, rewriting history!
Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.



There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.





Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?









Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.


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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:12 PM
The framers allowed for slavery

Lol...


Quoting cammibear:

Since I would say all of our Founders had a biblical worldview, it follows that their societal morals used biblical principals as the standard of morality.



I'm gonna make alot of people mad by saying this, but I believe our moral decline began with a secular humanistic worldview that was at odds with our biblical worldview. We went from having a standard by which to measure morality, right and wrong, good and evil, to what we have today...nothing by which to measure morality at all. Oh yeah, I know they believe human reason is the means by which to measure morality. We also know that such arbitrary human reasoning has led to the justification of mass slaughter of human lives.




Quoting onethentwins:

From since when? 1776? And who gets to set these moral standards?

And maybe those things were actually evil all along.



Quoting cammibear:

I'm not speaking of a particular year. Our moral decline has been slow and steady.








Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What years specifically are you speaking of ?







Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.









There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.












Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?











Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.








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motha2daDuchess
by Bruja on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:13 PM

 morality meaning what? a theocratic patriarchial antiqued mind set?

Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.

 

cammibear
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:14 PM
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Again, your missing my point. All those terrible things happened, but because we had a moral standard, we had reason to fight to end those things that didn't measure up.

As long as there are people, there will be evil. As long as there is an absolute standard by which to measure right and wrong, there will be reason to fight to attain to that high standard.

What standard but flawed human reasoning do we have to measure moral standards today?


Quoting krysstizzle:

So when was this again, specifically? Was it when half the country owned slaves because of state sanctioned slavery? Or when  entire cultures were slaughtered and treated like vermin because of "manifest destiny"? Maybe it was when we forced children to work 15 hour days in stifling factories. Or when we forced those with disabilities into boxes in asylums and forgot about them. Or do you mean later? Like when we forced Japanese immigrants into concentration camps because we were paranoid. Or perhaps when the CIA was routinely involved in dark of the night experiments on unsuspecting citizens, like MK Ultra or the shamefullness at Tuskeegee. Or was it when women weren't allowed to vote and were treated as second class citizens?

Well? Sounds pretty goddamn moral to me . Pshaw.


Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.



There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.





Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?





Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.




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cammibear
by Gold Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM
No, sorry. You are confusing a distorted man-made Christianity through the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican Church. Our Founders endured those theocracies and created a society with standards based on biblical principles, not biblical distortions. Why do you think Jefferson held a biblical worldview, but despised the Catholic and Anglican churches?

And no, I'm not bashing the Catholic or Anglican Churches. Just the evil alliance they formed with government.


Quoting krysstizzle:

That 'biblical morality' has led to millions of death. The Inquisition, the Crusades, Manifest Destiny, to name a very, very few. 

Please.

Quoting cammibear:

Since I would say all of our Founders had a biblical worldview, it follows that their societal morals used biblical principals as the standard of morality.



I'm gonna make alot of people mad by saying this, but I believe our moral decline began with a secular humanistic worldview that was at odds with our biblical worldview. We went from having a standard by which to measure morality, right and wrong, good and evil, to what we have today...nothing by which to measure morality at all. Oh yeah, I know they believe human reason is the means by which to measure morality. We also know that such arbitrary human reasoning has led to the justification of mass slaughter of human lives.





Quoting onethentwins:

From since when? 1776? And who gets to set these moral standards?

And maybe those things were actually evil all along.



Quoting cammibear:

I'm not speaking of a particular year. Our moral decline has been slow and steady.








Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What years specifically are you speaking of ?







Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.









There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.












Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?











Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.











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Joqui
by Joqui on Nov. 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM
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Are you insinuating that religion is the only thing that enabled people to "check" themselves?

Funny because religion also played a roll in keeping these activities going, justifying these "moral" souls to feel that what they were doing was perfectly ok in god's eyes. 

What standards do we have today? The same ones people had back then, just knowing in your gut that something is not right. I don't like to believe that human beings are evil, I like to believe that there is good in everyone that is an able, thinking, sane human being. (Leaving those mentally innocent or ill out of it). 

Change is a hard thing to accept but I've seen time and time again people stand up for what they believe to be MORALLY correct, giving people the right to vote, giving people the right to love each other, justice is justice and I don't think you need a religious background to know when something just ain't fair. 

(and that's all I have to say about that - Forest Gump)

Quoting cammibear:

Again, your missing my point. All those terrible things happened, but because we had a moral standard, we had reason to fight to end those things that didn't measure up.

As long as there are people, there will be evil. As long as there is an absolute standard by which to measure right and wrong, there will be reason to fight to attain to that high standard.

What standard but flawed human reasoning do we have to measure moral standards today?


Quoting krysstizzle:

So when was this again, specifically? Was it when half the country owned slaves because of state sanctioned slavery? Or when  entire cultures were slaughtered and treated like vermin because of "manifest destiny"? Maybe it was when we forced children to work 15 hour days in stifling factories. Or when we forced those with disabilities into boxes in asylums and forgot about them. Or do you mean later? Like when we forced Japanese immigrants into concentration camps because we were paranoid. Or perhaps when the CIA was routinely involved in dark of the night experiments on unsuspecting citizens, like MK Ultra or the shamefullness at Tuskeegee. Or was it when women weren't allowed to vote and were treated as second class citizens?

Well? Sounds pretty goddamn moral to me . Pshaw.


Quoting cammibear:

Believe it or not there was a time when a persons character was important, when our society had a moral standard that the people could strive for.



There's never been and never will be the utopian society where all people are moral and responsible. However, in our postmodern world where everything is relative, and everything is shades of grey, we have no moral standard to strive for. As a country, we cannot discern good and evil, in fact, things that used to be evil are now good, and things that used to be good, are now evil. We are self-destructing.





Quoting sweet-a-kins:

When specifically were we a moral society? What year was is?





Quoting cammibear:

He's 100% accurate. Our Constitution HAS failed, right along with the morality of the people. Guess our Framers were right on. You reap what you sow, and we have sown our own destruction as a free country. Our Founders died in vain because we have come full circle.





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