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Abortion law blamed for woman's death, protests in the streets

Posted by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 12:33 AM
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I know this is listed in another thread, but thought it deserved its own. I just saw this on the news and women there are protesting in the streets.

I asked a while back how the "life of the mother" exception would work in practice...well HERE is your answer people! This is how that "exception" works.

Woman's death prompts abortion debate in Ireland

From Peter Taggart, for CNN
updated 8:29 PM EST, Wed November 14, 2012
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Abortion law blamed for woman's death

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Savita Halappanavar, who was 17 weeks pregnant, went into a hospital complaining of back pain
  • Doctors said she was having a miscarriage that would end in a matter of hours, report says
  • Halappanavar's husband sought an abortion to end the pain, but doctors refused, citing law
  • Her death led to protests, and top Irish lawmakers are discussing a change to the law

(CNN) -- Ireland's strict anti-abortion laws are under fire after an Indian woman living there died after being refused an abortion last month.

Savita Halappanavar, 31, went into a hospital on October 21, complaining of back pain. She was 17 weeks pregnant at the time.

The doctors who examined her told her she was having a miscarriage but denied her an abortion even though she was in extreme pain, her husband has said. Halappanavar died at the hospital, leading lawmakers to call for an investigation into what role abortion laws may have played in her death.

"They knew they couldn't help the baby. Why did they not look at the bigger life?" her husband, Praveen Halappanavar, told the Irish Times.

Woman dies after denied abortion

Halappanavar was told that the miscarriage would be over in a matter of hours, said Kitty Holland, who reported the story for the Irish Times.

But the hours kept ticking and Halappanavar remained in terrible pain, so her husband asked doctors to expedite the miscarriage by carrying out an abortion.

Doctors at Galway University Hospital said that as long as the fetal heartbeat could be felt, the law prevented them from ending the pregnancy, Holland said. Halappanavar died of septicemia, or a blood infection, after three days in the hospital.

"Tuesday morning, came back and said, 'Sorry, can't help you. It's a Catholic country. Can't help you. It's a Catholic team.' So, Savita said that she was not a Catholic. She is Hindu, so why impose the law of the land on her?" her husband said.

The death led to protests, and top Irish lawmakers are asking whether the law needs to be changed.

In Ireland, abortion is legal if the mother's life is at risk, which is different from her health being at risk, Holland said.

The hospital expressed sympathy to Halappanavar's husband, but noted in a statement that "the facts of this tragic case have yet to be established."

The hospital is conducting a review of the incident, as it does will all unexpected deaths. The Galway Roscommon University Hospitals Group released a statement saying, "In the case of a sudden maternal death, these procedures are followed: notification of the death to the coroner; notification of the death to the HSE's National Incident Management Team; the completion of a maternal death notification form. These national procedures are being followed by Galway University Hospital."

Halappanavar's death is "particularly tragic and harrowing, and shocking to all concerned," Irish opposition lawmaker Micheal Martin said before parliament.

He called for an independent inquiry into the case "with personnel from outside the country to participate on such a panel of inquiry."

The Irish government needs to "establish the full circumstances" of her death, he said.

The Irish head of state, Taoiseach Enda Kenny, said two investigations are under way.

Gerry Adams, leader of Ireland's Sinn Fein political party, said it's time for the government to legislate for abortion in certain medical cases.

The incident is garnering attention outside of Ireland, too.

In neighboring Northern Ireland, a lawmaker called for a review of abortion laws there, as well.

"An abortion to save the life of the mother is legal here, but the lack of clear guidelines has created such uncertainties and confusion amongst medical staff that such an occurrence could happen again," Anna Lo said.

In London, an abortion rights demonstration took place Wednesday evening outside the Irish Embassy.

CNN's Nic Robertson contributed to this report

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by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 12:33 AM
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NWP
by guerrilla girl on Nov. 15, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Ohio is trying to pass a "heartbeat" law right now

NWP
by guerrilla girl on Nov. 15, 2012 at 12:35 AM

n neighboring Northern Ireland, a lawmaker called for a review of abortion laws there, as well.

"An abortion to save the life of the mother is legal here, but the lack of clear guidelines has created such uncertainties and confusion amongst medical staff that such an occurrence could happen again," Anna Lo said.

Friday
by HRH of MJ on Nov. 15, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Don't be ridiculous, abortion is never medically necessary to save the mothers life. Just ask the GOP, Google PHD's in Congress.


Church of The Invisible Pink Unicorn (blessed be her holy hooves)

Healthystart30
by Silver Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 2:21 AM
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This is so sad! This woman did not have to die, and like they said, they aren't catholic so why should this law even apply to them, this is why religion needs to stay out of legislation!
NutHouseMomma
by Silver Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 2:25 AM
Unless I am reading this wrong...isn't it the husband asking for the abortion and not the woman? I know that's not really the point, but I find it interesting nonetheless.
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Tay06
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 2:26 AM
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This is so sad.  I don't understand why people feel the need to control what other people decide to do with their own bodies.  I completely understand that some people believe its a baby and it has a right to live, but the baby was dying.  Take the baby out so the mother can live!

NWP
by guerrilla girl on Nov. 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM

I find this very sad. This is what a "no abortion except when medically necessary" rule looks like.

Is this what we want in America?

momsince1989
by on Nov. 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM

 I read about this yesterday, poor angel died for political reasons because all religions have turned political these days and people be damned they will make their points. Awful and dispicable and NOT representative of the loving God I serve!

Traci_Momof2
by Silver Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 2:26 PM


Quoting NutHouseMomma:

Unless I am reading this wrong...isn't it the husband asking for the abortion and not the woman? I know that's not really the point, but I find it interesting nonetheless.

I've read other articles on this story that stated she asked for an abortion herself, multiple times.  So who knows.  Either way, it's horrible that the hospital allowed this woman to die like this.

GoddessNDaRuff
by Silver Member on Nov. 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM


Quoting Traci_Momof2:


Quoting NutHouseMomma:

Unless I am reading this wrong...isn't it the husband asking for the abortion and not the woman? I know that's not really the point, but I find it interesting nonetheless.

I've read other articles on this story that stated she asked for an abortion herself, multiple times.  So who knows.  Either way, it's horrible that the hospital allowed this woman to die like this.

Either way if she was in really bad condition the next of kin would normally call the shots so even if the husband asked that blood infection could have been prevented had they acted.

What good is that hospital if they are following religious convictions that there is no clear scripture on just a bunch of interpretations? It was no better than her dying in agony at home. She went there for treatment and did not receive it. Why didn't they try to transfer her somewhere where she could have gotten the treatment she needed if the assholes felt their hands were tied?

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