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Is abortion natural? S/O abortion debate

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All signs point to yes; aborting a pregnancy is a natural response in female mammals.

Ludek Bartos from the Institute of Animal Science in the Czech Republic recently led a study that suggests that female horses have adopted “abortion strategies” and that they can “choose” to terminate a pregnancy if they are put in a position where the foals paternity may be uncertain.  Published in the journal Behavioural Ecology and Sociobiology, this study has caused many anti-choicers to exclaim that the creators of this study are simply assuming the horses intentions. They argue that the phenomena should be referred to as “miscarriage” instead of “abortion.” Some have even proclaimed that it’s impossible for animals to choose to terminate pregnancies, because they don’t have the medical technology to perform surgical abortions.

What these critics fail to acknowledge is that abortion does not have to be performed surgically, in humans or in animals. Herbs like penny royal and chamomile have historically been used, rather successfully, to cause pregnancies to abort in women. Of course, this has varying results, is not always safe, and is only successful in very early stages of pregnancy. Other ways of self-induced abortion include various other herbal concoctions, applying pressure to the uterus and of course the now legendary coat-hanger type method. Some women have even reported successfully self-aborting by ingesting certain herbs and meditating. In animals, hippos, armadillos and rabbits have all been know to suddenly miscarry when their environmental conditions are unfavorable, or because they are such that giving birth would potentially kill them. The reason that scientists choose to call this a self-induced abortion instead of a miscarriage is because the pregnancies are typically lost before the mother animal begins to feel negative effects from the strain of carrying a pregnancy in a hostile environment.

Ultimately, what these sorts of studies accomplish is that they challenge the long held belief that a “mother” only acts in certain ways, and that to act in a way that is not considered “motherly” is to defy nature. In fact, it is completely natural for mammal mothers to abort, abandon or even kill their offspring in order to protect or better the lives of themselves, their current offspring, or the future of their bloodline. Now, certainly human beings are different from animals, but human history is filled with examples of societies where abortion or even infanticide was considered normal or acceptable. For some reason, though, many people in the United States seem to think that the fact that a woman may genuinely want to have an abortion is impossible, indeed unnatural.

Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion about the morality of abortion. However, it’s important that we lay to rest any misconceptions about what is a “natural” mothering act and what is not. The reality is that there is no universal in regards to mothering. Wanting to abort is a perfectly understandable and acceptable response to an unplanned, unwanted, or unfavorable pregnancy. That is indisputable. Now, whether or not women should be allowed to act on those desires, that is up for debate.

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by on Nov. 17, 2012 at 6:21 PM
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LindaClement
by Thatwoman on Nov. 21, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Infanticide is also natural --when there are pressing reasons why an infant will 'cost' this family/clan/village too much, they can't keep them alive... they can make more later.

Quoting viv212:

It's also natural just the fact that all animals want to abort, just not that they do. The want to end a pregnancy has been around since pregnancy itself.

Quoting LindaClement:

Since forever, people have stumbled across plants that limit fertility, both by interfering with conception and ending unwanted pregnancies.

Gorillas do the same. So do chimps.

Yes, it's natural.

Quoting Princess_s21:

How is it natural, does it happen on its own without a conscience decision and someone to perform it? A natural end to a pregnancy is when a women miscarries or a still born situation occurs, its the body naturally rejecting the pregnancy, where you have no control of it, in most cases.



kailu1835
by Ruby Member on Nov. 21, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Still not buying it.

Quoting mcr17:

It is in other animals.

Quoting kailu1835:

I call bull on the idea that any mammal can terminate their own pregnancy on purpose, simply because paternity is unknown.  In fact, certain species of apes and monkeys have been known to pretend they're in heat when a new male takes over, to save the life of their unborn baby, ensuring that the new male thinks that the new infant is his, since he will kill off all the offspring of the previous male.

The body will only terminant a pregnancy if there is something wrong with the baby, or with the body, and is not willful.


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kailu1835
by Ruby Member on Nov. 21, 2012 at 1:53 PM

I know, I was talking about humans.  In the article it talked about women and chamomile.

Quoting Baybeelove88:

Not all species react to herbs the way humans do... Something to think about :)


Quoting kailu1835:

By the way, chamomile tea is safe to be drunk in pregnancy.  If this article is going to say that chamomile is used to terminate pregnancy, then I'm going to guess that the whole thing is a load of crock.



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mcr17
by on Nov. 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM
Then don't but you will be wrong

Quoting kailu1835:

Still not buying it.

Quoting mcr17:

It is in other animals.



Quoting kailu1835:

I call bull on the idea that any mammal can terminate their own pregnancy on purpose, simply because paternity is unknown.  In fact, certain species of apes and monkeys have been known to pretend they're in heat when a new male takes over, to save the life of their unborn baby, ensuring that the new male thinks that the new infant is his, since he will kill off all the offspring of the previous male.

The body will only terminant a pregnancy if there is something wrong with the baby, or with the body, and is not willful.


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