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Christians successfully restore prayer to board meetings

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The Miami-Dade Board of County Commissioners has voted to restore prayer to open meetings.

In 2004, two members of the board decided they were offended with Christian prayer and successfully lobbied fellow members to open instead with a moment of silence. The Christian Family Coalition got to work and one of the hostile members was replaced with a Christian, as spokesman Anthony Verdugo explains.

Verdugo

"To eliminate religious speech in the form of solemnizing the prayer is discrimination, and so what we told the commissioners is all we want to do is restore free-speech rights and restore speech equality so that everyone can speak openly and freely so long as it's civil discourse," he tells OneNewsNow.

The commission voted 8-3 to restore prayer prior to the roll call for the meeting.

"We are a metropolitan area, but we also have to be an inclusive and welcoming community and we talk about being inclusive and welcoming and tolerant," he says. "That includes people of faith also because we too are part of this community. We're not isolated from it, so our free-speech rights must also be respected and upheld."

Under the policy, the commissioners will select on a rotating basis someone from the area to conduct the prayer -- or commissioners themselves can elect to offer the prayer.

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by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:24 AM
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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:55 AM
I agree some dumbass loser republicans are still crying about losing the election and boo hooing about legally voted on bills that were upheld by the SCOTUS


Anywho, remember the Contitution..and church and state?

That was voted on as well


Quoting candlegal:

It is only big in America if the vote goes the way you wanted it to.

Quoting PortiaRose:

You say prayer doesn't belong in the board room. People VOTED (I hear that's big, in america) and now they pray again.



Quoting sweet-a-kins:

No actually it couldn't





Prayer has no place in the meeting





That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence





But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all











Quoting PortiaRose:

It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.







Quoting sweet-a-kins:

It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?









Nope









So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others









Disgusting


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candlegal
by Judy on Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:57 AM

LOL

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

I agree some dumbass loser republicans are still crying about losing the election and boo hooing about legally voted on bills that were upheld by the SCOTUS


Anywho, remember the Contitution..and church and state?

That was voted on as well


Quoting candlegal:

It is only big in America if the vote goes the way you wanted it to.

Quoting PortiaRose:

You say prayer doesn't belong in the board room. People VOTED (I hear that's big, in america) and now they pray again.



Quoting sweet-a-kins:

No actually it couldn't





Prayer has no place in the meeting





That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence





But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all











Quoting PortiaRose:

It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.







Quoting sweet-a-kins:

It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?









Nope









So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others









Disgusting



LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:01 AM
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Wait, so they HAD a moment of Silence, in which Christians could pray and non Christians could reflect in any manner they prefered, but that offended the Christians because they needed it to be all about THEIR prayer - and that is A GOOD thing?
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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:03 AM
1 mom liked this
I know

It's hilarious your hypocrisy

The affordable care act vote didnt go your way so you cry daily about it

The 2008 and 2012 election didnt go your way so you cry daily about it

The Supreme Court also voted on the ACA and you cry over their vote as well

Tsk tsk candle


Quoting candlegal:

LOL

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

I agree some dumbass loser republicans are still crying about losing the election and boo hooing about legally voted on bills that were upheld by the SCOTUS





Anywho, remember the Contitution..and church and state?



That was voted on as well




Quoting candlegal:

It is only big in America if the vote goes the way you wanted it to.

Quoting PortiaRose:

You say prayer doesn't belong in the board room. People VOTED (I hear that's big, in america) and now they pray again.





Quoting sweet-a-kins:

No actually it couldn't







Prayer has no place in the meeting







That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence







But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all















Quoting PortiaRose:

It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.









Quoting sweet-a-kins:

It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?











Nope











So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others











Disgusting



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romalove
by Roma on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:22 AM
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If I was a praying person and I lived there I would be praying for county commissioners who understood the First Amendment and that they were elected to serve all the people of their district, and not just the Christians.

They had free speech rights to pray during the moment of silence, however they wished to.  Now they took away the free speech rights of anyone who doesn't want to pray the same way.

Just completely stupid.  

12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:40 AM
1 mom liked this

 

So when Obama's inauguration comes around in a couple of months will you you feel he is forcing prayer by having not only an opening prayer but a closing one as well?

 

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

No actually it couldn't

Prayer has no place in the meeting

That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence

But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all



Quoting PortiaRose:

It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.



Quoting sweet-a-kins:

It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?





Nope





So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others





Disgusting


TCgirlatheart
by TC on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:42 AM
2 moms liked this

So a group of government representatives voted to endorse one religion over an all-inclusive moment of silence?  That is terrible.  


~"Dream the dreams of others and you will be no one's rival." ~


 




 

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:42 AM
Yes, I also don't agree with the Bible being included in the ceremony or in court

Quoting 12hellokitty:

 


So when Obama's inauguration comes around in a couple of months will you you feel he is forcing prayer by having not only an opening prayer but a closing one as well?


 


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

No actually it couldn't

Prayer has no place in the meeting

That doesn't attack the Christian with others faith or non faith ...they can still pray during the moment of silence

But instead they force the public prayer..thu aren't saying everyone's prayer and f*ck the poor folks who don't pray at all




Quoting PortiaRose:

It could go both ways, they just won the tug o war.




Quoting sweet-a-kins:

It also includes people of OTHER faiths ..are they saying different prayers as well?





Nope





So many Christians are bigoted bullies pushing their religious beliefs on others





Disgusting


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12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 8:55 AM
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Quoting LilyofPhilly:

But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Matthew 6:6.


Interesting.  While we are to not pray openly in vain, we are in fact called to pray for and with one another. 

As much as you and others want Christians to check their faith at the doors of their home and church, we have a RIGHT to practice our religion freely and openly and a core practice for Christians is prayer. 

TCgirlatheart
by TC on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:05 AM
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How does a moment of silence stop someone from practising their religion freely?

Quoting 12hellokitty:


Quoting LilyofPhilly:

But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Matthew 6:6.


Interesting.  While we are to not pray openly in vain, we are in fact called to pray for and with one another. 

As much as you and others want Christians to check their faith at the doors of their home and church, we have a RIGHT to practice our religion freely and openly and a core practice for Christians is prayer. 


~"Dream the dreams of others and you will be no one's rival." ~


 




 

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