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Christians successfully restore prayer to board meetings

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The Miami-Dade Board of County Commissioners has voted to restore prayer to open meetings.

In 2004, two members of the board decided they were offended with Christian prayer and successfully lobbied fellow members to open instead with a moment of silence. The Christian Family Coalition got to work and one of the hostile members was replaced with a Christian, as spokesman Anthony Verdugo explains.

Verdugo

"To eliminate religious speech in the form of solemnizing the prayer is discrimination, and so what we told the commissioners is all we want to do is restore free-speech rights and restore speech equality so that everyone can speak openly and freely so long as it's civil discourse," he tells OneNewsNow.

The commission voted 8-3 to restore prayer prior to the roll call for the meeting.

"We are a metropolitan area, but we also have to be an inclusive and welcoming community and we talk about being inclusive and welcoming and tolerant," he says. "That includes people of faith also because we too are part of this community. We're not isolated from it, so our free-speech rights must also be respected and upheld."

Under the policy, the commissioners will select on a rotating basis someone from the area to conduct the prayer -- or commissioners themselves can elect to offer the prayer.

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by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 7:24 AM
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candlegal
by Judy on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:22 AM

No  they didn' specify which way, but don't you know that doesn't matter.

Quoting JCB911:


Quoting TCgirlatheart:

So a group of government representatives voted to endorse one religion over an all-inclusive moment of silence?  That is terrible.  


But they voted to pray - they didn't speicify which way they'd pray.  They didn't specify they'd only pray Christian prayers - I'm rather sure other faiths pray as well.  And if my history of religion serves me, the main 3 religions in USA pray to the same GOD..


12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:23 AM

 

No they wished to practice their Constitutional right to free speech.  Trying to silence their free speech is infringing upon their rights.  Those who don't wish to participate can close their ears...

Quoting romalove:

They wished to pray organized without regards for anyone else.

Quoting 12hellokitty:

 


Quoting romalove:


If I was a praying person and I lived there I would be praying for county commissioners who understood the First Amendment and that they were elected to serve all the people of their district, and not just the Christians.


They had free speech rights to pray during the moment of silence, however they wished to.  Now they took away the free speech rights of anyone who doesn't want to pray the same way.


Just completely stupid.  


No it didn't.  It was forcing them to pray in silence, which was not how they wished to pray... 


ashleyrenee24
by Ashley on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:24 AM
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Why are some Christians so adamant on forcing their beliefs on others?
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candlegal
by Judy on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:26 AM
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They aren't, they are just tired of being told to keep their mouths shut and just go along.

Quoting ashleyrenee24:

Why are some Christians so adamant on forcing their beliefs on others?


Sekirei
by Nari Trickster on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM
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so.it is all right to infringe on someone else's rights...as long as you can pray? Good to know that I am correct in my assessment of most christians... "Non Christians... get out...you worthless cretins!"

Quoting 12hellokitty:


No they wished to practice their Constitutional right to free speech.  Trying to silence their free speech is infringing upon their rights.  Those who don't wish to participate can close their ears...

Quoting romalove:

They wished to pray organized without regards for anyone else.

Quoting 12hellokitty:



Quoting romalove:


If I was a praying person and I lived there I would be praying for county commissioners who understood the First Amendment and that they were elected to serve all the people of their district, and not just the Christians.


They had free speech rights to pray during the moment of silence, however they wished to.  Now they took away the free speech rights of anyone who doesn't want to pray the same way.


Just completely stupid.  


No it didn't.  It was forcing them to pray in silence, which was not how they wished to pray... 



sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Nope, they say one prayer from one faith

Quoting JCB911:


Quoting TCgirlatheart:

So a group of government representatives voted to endorse one religion over an all-inclusive moment of silence?  That is terrible.  


But they voted to pray - they didn't speicify which way they'd pray.  They didn't specify they'd only pray Christian prayers - I'm rather sure other faiths pray as well.  And if my history of religion serves me, the main 3 religions in USA pray to the same GOD..

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romalove
by Roma on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:29 AM
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Quoting 12hellokitty:


No they wished to practice their Constitutional right to free speech.  Trying to silence their free speech is infringing upon their rights.  Those who don't wish to participate can close their ears...

Quoting romalove:

They wished to pray organized without regards for anyone else.

Quoting 12hellokitty:



Quoting romalove:


If I was a praying person and I lived there I would be praying for county commissioners who understood the First Amendment and that they were elected to serve all the people of their district, and not just the Christians.


They had free speech rights to pray during the moment of silence, however they wished to.  Now they took away the free speech rights of anyone who doesn't want to pray the same way.


Just completely stupid.  


No it didn't.  It was forcing them to pray in silence, which was not how they wished to pray... 


Maybe the meetings can take hours as each group has their turn asserting their right to pray out loud.  

This is just stupidity, I'm sorry.  There is NO compelling to pray out loud wherever you are.  If you think I'm wrong, try it during a Broadway performance, or during a trial when you're in the gallery and someone's being cross examined, or in the middle of math class.  There is a time and a place for everything.

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:30 AM
They Aren't being told that.



Quoting candlegal:

They aren't, they are just tired of being told to keep their mouths shut and just go along.

Quoting ashleyrenee24:

Why are some Christians so adamant on forcing their beliefs on others?


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Claire-Huxtable
by on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Is anyone being forced to pray?

romalove
by Roma on Dec. 9, 2012 at 9:30 AM
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Quoting candlegal:

They aren't, they are just tired of being told to keep their mouths shut and just go along.

Quoting ashleyrenee24:

Why are some Christians so adamant on forcing their beliefs on others?


Just go along with what?  Sharing America with non-Christians?

Oh woe....

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