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Americans believe public workers better paid and more secure (Bingo!)

Posted by on Dec. 11, 2012 at 7:53 AM
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Americans believe public workers better paid and more secure (Bingo!)

KRIS-TV (How many public employees does it take to watch a backhoe dig a hole?)

KRIS-TV (How many public employees does it take to watch a backhoe dig a hole?)

You may have noticed some economic difficulties across the country in recent years among family, friends, neighbors, colleagues. One sector is doing quite nicely, however, under Barack Hussein Obama.

In the 1,420 days since he took the oath of office, the federal government has daily hired on average 101 new employees. Every day. Seven days a week. All 202 weeks. That makes 143,000 more federal workers than when Obama talked forever on that cold day in January of 2009.

Under Obama the total federal workforce has surpassed two million for the first time since the first Clinton term, now sitting about the 2.2 ,million level.

Now comes a new poll revealing that Americans know what's going on. A majority of Americans believes government workers make more money than private sector workers, according to the new Rasmussen Reports poll. Sixty-one percent of private sector workers believe that.

Surprisingly, Republicans, independents and Democrats are united in agreement that government employees have it better than private sector workers although, predictably, Dems are slightly less sure.

"The federal workforce has become an elite island of secure and high-paid workers, separated from the ocean of average American workers competing in the global economy," according to a report this year by the Cato Institute.

That report found the average civilian federal government worker collected just under $84,000 a year in taxpayer money, about $32,000 more than the average private sector worker. That's a total federal worker package of about $236 billion a year.

In his public outbursts during the alleged fiscal cliff negotiations, Obama has suggested that talks over federal spending cuts come later after his immediate favored tax increases. 

Obama has frozen the inflated federal salaries into next spring, while the Republican platform in this fall's campaign called for a 10% reduction in the federal labor force through attrition. The reelected Obama seems unlikely to go along with that idea.

Congressional Republicans have also called for firing the thousands of federal employees who are behind in their income taxes but still somehow remain on the public payroll.

The latest IRS report said, for instance, that 36 of Obama's White House aides had $833,000 in unpaid back taxes. 

According to Rasmussen, two out of three Americans are sure that company employees work harder than their lazy lay-about government counterparts. Only five percent think it's the other way around; they may belong to street repair crews (see photo above).

Even a plurality (48%) of government employees admit their private industry counterparts do work harder.


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candlegal
by Judy on Dec. 11, 2012 at 8:33 AM
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No wonder he needs more money to spend, spend, spend. 


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n the 1,420 days since he took the oath of office, the federal government has daily hired on average 101 new employees. Every day. Seven days a week. All 202 weeks. That makes 143,000 more federal workers than when Obama talked forever on that cold day in January of 2009.

Under Obama the total federal workforce has surpassed two million for the first time since the first Clinton term, now sitting about the 2.2 ,million level.


radioheid
by Libertarian on Dec. 11, 2012 at 10:33 AM
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 I figured it was common knowledge that rank-and-file government employees are paid more than their private sector counterparts... The government employees are paid what people should be paid for the work they do (in most cases), while people are screwed by greed in the private sector. Not to say I want to see government take over the private sector (because I DON'T), but facts are facts: many private businesses are hella cheap on their workers, while upper management often makes a killing standing on the backs of those workers. A government worker in a senior leadership position will typically make less than 10% of what their private sector equivalent makes in a year. So, it isn't a matter of government drones making too much, it is a matter of private drones making too little, and the salaries of upper management in government and private sector prove this point perfectly.


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IhaveHisjoy
by Silver Member on Dec. 11, 2012 at 10:36 AM

 101 new government employees per day..mind boggling!

punky3175
by Punky on Dec. 11, 2012 at 10:40 AM
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 This is complete BS.  They are taking the highest paid government workers and using their salary rather than taking into account the "average" worker.

Here are the federal pay tables which are available to the public: http://www.opm.gov/oca/12tables/index.asp

If you look at base pay you'll see someone has to be a GS-14 in order to make $84K/year (not taking into account locality pay.)  I am in a specialized field so the lowest those in my series come in is a GS-7 - that isn't enough to survive in DC where most of us are stationed as soon as we are done with training.  And we can no longer get up to GS-14.

I get really fed up with being used as a political pawn when people aren't actually government workers and don't understand how it all works.  Are they lazy federal employees? Of course there are just like their are lazy private sector employees. Are some organizations overstaffed? Definitely.  Are others underfunded? Yep.

punky3175
by Punky on Dec. 11, 2012 at 10:42 AM

 I think it all depends on what field you are talking about.  In my field private sector employees make WAY more than the federal equivalent.  I don't know about other job series' though.

Quoting radioheid:

 I figured it was common knowledge that rank-and-file government employees are paid more than their private sector counterparts... The government employees are paid what people should be paid for the work they do (in most cases), while people are screwed by greed in the private sector. Not to say I want to see government take over the private sector (because I DON'T), but facts are facts: many private businesses are hella cheap on their workers, while upper management often makes a killing standing on the backs of those workers. A government worker in a senior leadership position will typically make less than 10% of what their private sector equivalent makes in a year. So, it isn't a matter of government drones making too much, it is a matter of private drones making too little, and the salaries of upper management in government and private sector prove this point perfectly.

 

candlegal
by Judy on Dec. 11, 2012 at 10:42 AM

yes it is

Quoting IhaveHisjoy:

 101 new government employees per day..mind boggling!


eema.gray
by on Dec. 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM

My husband's Department of the Army Police Department has been decimated over the past 4 years.  When he was hired, they had 81 DA officers, they're down to 50 right now and after the 1st of January, will probably have to drop to around 25 (MP's taking over the bulk of the road work that DA's currently do).  If there are 101 gov jobs being added daily, it's not in his department, nor the army civilians on his post either.  More and more human resources stuff comes through email from people many states away instead of from people on site.

LucyMom08
by Gold Member on Dec. 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM
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 Any comments on this candle? I see you skipped this one...

Quoting radioheid:

 I figured it was common knowledge that rank-and-file government employees are paid more than their private sector counterparts... The government employees are paid what people should be paid for the work they do (in most cases), while people are screwed by greed in the private sector. Not to say I want to see government take over the private sector (because I DON'T), but facts are facts: many private businesses are hella cheap on their workers, while upper management often makes a killing standing on the backs of those workers. A government worker in a senior leadership position will typically make less than 10% of what their private sector equivalent makes in a year. So, it isn't a matter of government drones making too much, it is a matter of private drones making too little, and the salaries of upper management in government and private sector prove this point perfectly.

 

ReadWriteLuv
by Silver Member on Dec. 11, 2012 at 11:29 AM

This. 

I'm in the medical field and work for a group of surgeons in a private office. If I worked on the military base where my husband was stationed and became a government employee, doing the same job, I'd make $7-$10 less per hour. 

Quoting punky3175:

 I think it all depends on what field you are talking about.  In my field private sector employees make WAY more than the federal equivalent.  I don't know about other job series' though.

Quoting radioheid:

 I figured it was common knowledge that rank-and-file government employees are paid more than their private sector counterparts... The government employees are paid what people should be paid for the work they do (in most cases), while people are screwed by greed in the private sector. Not to say I want to see government take over the private sector (because I DON'T), but facts are facts: many private businesses are hella cheap on their workers, while upper management often makes a killing standing on the backs of those workers. A government worker in a senior leadership position will typically make less than 10% of what their private sector equivalent makes in a year. So, it isn't a matter of government drones making too much, it is a matter of private drones making too little, and the salaries of upper management in government and private sector prove this point perfectly.

 


ReadWriteLuv
by Silver Member on Dec. 11, 2012 at 11:31 AM

The military police should be handling their own security. It shouldn't be private contractors handling base security. I'm glad for this shift.

Quoting eema.gray:

My husband's Department of the Army Police Department has been decimated over the past 4 years.  When he was hired, they had 81 DA officers, they're down to 50 right now and after the 1st of January, will probably have to drop to around 25 (MP's taking over the bulk of the road work that DA's currently do).  If there are 101 gov jobs being added daily, it's not in his department, nor the army civilians on his post either.  More and more human resources stuff comes through email from people many states away instead of from people on site.


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