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Website helps Dutch Catholics "de-baptize" over gay marriage

Posted by on Dec. 28, 2012 at 6:15 AM
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Website helps Dutch Catholics "de-baptize" over gay marriage

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Thousands of Dutch Catholics are researching how they can leave the church in protest at its opposition to gay marriage, according to the creator of a website aimed at helping them find the information.

Tom Roes, whose website allows people to download the documents needed to leave the church, said traffic on ontdopen.nl - "de-baptise.nl" - had soared from about 10 visits a day to more than 10,000 after Pope Benedict's latest denunciation of gay marriage this month.

"Of course it's not possible to be 'de-baptized' because a baptism is an event, but this way people can unsubscribe or de-register themselves as Catholics," Roes told Reuters.

He said he did not know how many visitors to the site actually go ahead and leave the church.

About 28 percent of the population in the Netherlands is Catholic and 18 percent is Protestant, while a much larger proportion - roughly 44 percent - is not religious, according to official statistics.

The country is famous for its liberal attitudes, for example to drugs and prostitution, and in April 2001 it was the first in the world to legalize same-sex marriages.

In a Christmas address to Vatican officials, the pope signaled the he was ready to forge alliances with other religions against gay marriage, saying the family was threatened "to its foundations" by attempts to change its "true structure".

Roes, a television director, said he left the church and set up his website partly because he was angry about the way the church downplayed or covered-up sexual abuse in Catholic orphanages, boarding schools and seminaries.

A report by an independent commission published a year ago said there had been tens of thousands of victims of child sexual abuse in the Netherlands since 1945 and criticized the church's culture of silence.

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futureshock
by Ruby Member on Dec. 28, 2012 at 7:06 PM
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This is awesome!!!

TranquilMind
by Platinum Member on Dec. 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Why should the Roman Catholic Church change its teachings  just to accommodate those who wish to indulge in sexual practices that are scripturally forbidden? 

This is like asking for a change to accommodate adultery (which the Catholic Church defines broadly enough to include anyone other than the original legitimate spouse, unless spouse is dead)? 


And I have vehement distaste of the RCC's handling of the whole serial child molester debacle.

This is a separate issue altogether. 

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Dec. 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM

Why would some one need to find a way to leave the church?  You simply leave.

The CC will never change their stance and I don't know why any one would really expect them to.

They have such a wonderful leader in the Pope.  The church is so full of love and acceptance and preaches as Jesus would like them to.  Come on now, why would any one want to leave?

I have never expected the CC to change their stance or their interpretation of the bible and their own man made books.

But I will say this, I never expected them to be so openly lacking in dignity either.

joey125
by Silver Member on Dec. 29, 2012 at 1:56 AM
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The pope has compared gay marriage to socialism which is so ridiculous its beyond understanding   Cuba under Castro's rule, which is socialist, wanted to punish gay people and wanted to rid the country of all gays.  I'm catholic, but I must say I am disappointed in some of the stances they have been taking lately.  The only Catholics I have any respect for are the nuns, especially the nuns on the bus who wanted to take their message to Paul Ryan regarding his budget.   I understand they don't want to marry gay people in the church , but they have no right  to   say people cannot marry outside of the church, they do not have to recognize the marriage its that simple.

glitterteaz
by Ruby Member on Dec. 29, 2012 at 2:10 AM
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Good for them!!!!

Dzyre1115
by Silver Member on Dec. 29, 2012 at 2:55 AM
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 If your chosen church does not fit your beliefs you simply stop going, it's not that difficult.

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Dec. 29, 2012 at 8:26 AM
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They change their teachings often

I was raised catholic and so were many generations in my family

They have changed so much the Catholicism my Mom practiced as a girl is no longer in practice


Quoting TranquilMind:

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.


Why should the Roman Catholic Church change its teachings  just to accommodate those who wish to indulge in sexual practices that are scripturally forbidden? 


This is like asking for a change to accommodate adultery (which the Catholic Church defines broadly enough to include anyone other than the original legitimate spouse, unless spouse is dead)? 



And I have vehement distaste of the RCC's handling of the whole serial child molester debacle.

This is a separate issue altogether. 

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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Dec. 29, 2012 at 8:28 AM
I agree the nuns are the best part of the religion

Quoting joey125:

The pope has compared gay marriage to socialism which is so ridiculous its beyond understanding   Cuba under Castro's rule, which is socialist, wanted to punish gay people and wanted to rid the country of all gays.  I'm catholic, but I must say I am disappointed in some of the stances they have been taking lately.  The only Catholics I have any respect for are the nuns, especially the nuns on the bus who wanted to take their message to Paul Ryan regarding his budget.   I understand they don't want to marry gay people in the church , but they have no right  to   say people cannot marry outside of the church, they do not have to recognize the marriage its that simple.

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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Dec. 29, 2012 at 8:29 AM
They changed many of their practice and teachings ...



Quoting FromAtoZ:

Why would some one need to find a way to leave the church?  You simply leave.

The CC will never change their stance and I don't know why any one would really expect them to.

They have such a wonderful leader in the Pope.  The church is so full of love and acceptance and preaches as Jesus would like them to.  Come on now, why would any one want to leave?

I have never expected the CC to change their stance or their interpretation of the bible and their own man made books.

But I will say this, I never expected them to be so openly lacking in dignity either.

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Euphoric
by Bazinga! on Dec. 29, 2012 at 9:49 AM

 Good deal.

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