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Being overweight or even mildly obese, as measured by body mass index makes you slightly less likely to die than a person of normal weight.

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Is Fat Good?

Epidemiologists struggle to explain a study that challenges a core belief: Fat will kill you.

Is being slightly overweight a reason to be jolly?
Is being slightly overweight a reason to be jolly?


Fat is bad for you, right? That’s what doctors tell us. But a review of nearly 100 studies, published this week in the Journal of the American Medical Association, confirms previous indications that the story is more complex. Being overweight or even mildly obese, as measured by body mass index, doesn’t make you more likely to die than a person of normal weight. It makes you slightly less likely to die.

How can this be? Is fat good for you?

That’s the wrong conclusion, according to epidemiologists. They insist that, in general, excess weight is dangerous. But then they have to explain why the mortality-to-weight correlation runs the wrong way. The result is a messy, collective scramble for excuses and explanations that can make the new data fit the old ideas. Here’s what they’ve come up with:


1. The difference is barely significant. In the JAMA analysis, overweight people were just 6 percent less likely to die than normal-weight people. “It's probably only statistically significant because of the large number” of people in the combined data set, says one skeptic. Maybe. But if the correlation had gone in the other direction—showing a marginally higher death rate among the overweight—you wouldn’t hear scientists arguing that what’s statistically significant isn’t really significant.

2. Death risk is the wrong standard. So what if fat doesn’t correlate with mortality? It still correlates with many diseases, which may ultimately affect mortality. Some studies covered by the JAMA review tracked people for up to 15 years. Others tracked them for as few as five years. Anyone who made it to that point counted as a survivor, regardless of diabetes, heart disease, or other conditions that may have contributed to death after the study ended.

3. Overweight is too close to obese. We used to think that being overweight gave you a higher risk of death. Then we collected data that suggested overweight might be OK but obesity was still deadly. Now we have data that suggest even mild obesity may be OK. To account for this, weight-control advocates are adding another link to their long-standing sermon: If you’re overweight, you’re on the road not just to mild obesity but eventually to morbid obesity, which the JAMA analysis validates as a huge mortality risk (with a 29 percent higher likelihood of death). So don’t gloat that you’re a measly 6 percent healthier than thinner people. Focus on the big picture: avoiding morbid obesity.

4. The dangers of being underweight hide the dangers of being overweight. A JAMA editorial notes that people in the thinner half of the “normal” BMI range have a higher mortality rate than those in the plumper half. This thinner subset inflates the normal-weight group’s mortality rate, which makes the mortality rate among overweight and obese people look good by comparison. The solution is to shift the whole scale to the right, so that these thin people are recognized as underweight, while people presently labeled overweight are redefined as normal weight. Once we’ve completed this reallocation, it will be clear once again that overweight people—now defined to include many whose BMI would previously have put them in the obese category—are at higher risk of death than the newly reclassified normal-weight people are. The value of weight control will be reaffirmed, but the thresholds will have changed.

5. Some kinds of fat are worse than others. At the moment, scientists seem to agree that while belly fat is bad for you, butt and thigh fat might be safe or even beneficial. So instead of focusing on BMI, we should measure your waist-to-hip ratio, body-fat percentage, blood pressure, blood lipids, glucose, and cardio-respiratory fitness.

6. Fat helps you survive some diseases. The JAMA editorial points out that among people suffering “a wasting disease, heart disease, diabetes, renal dialysis, or older age,” higher BMI correlates with a lower mortality rate. “Even in the absence of chronic disease, small excess amounts of adipose tissue may provide needed energy reserves during acute catabolic illnesses.” That doesn’t mean fat makes you healthy. It means that once you’re unhealthy, fat might keep you alive, at least for a while.

7. Fat protects you against injury. Many old people die from falls. Chubbier people “have more padding to protect the bones should a patient take a tumble, lowering the risk of a life-endangering hip fracture,” notes the Los Angeles Times.

8. Muscular people inflate the survival rate of the fat group. BMI “doesn't differentiate between fat and muscle mass,” observes the Wall Street Journal. So people who exercise and gain muscle are counted as fatter, when really they’re just stronger.

9. Sick people depress the survival rate of the “normal” group. The JAMA analysis controlled for smoking and pre-existing disease, and it didn’t include anyone in a hospital or hospice. But critics aren’t mollified. They insist, according to the Associated Press, that the normal-weight sample unduly “included people too thin to fit what some consider to be normal weight, which could have taken in people emaciated by cancer or other diseases.” It would take further, more precise studies to falsify this assertion.

10. Overweight gets you more medical attention and intervention. Doctors’ belief that fat signals a health risk makes them more likely to scrutinize heavier patients for disease symptoms or risk factors. Lots of evidence suggests doctors treat these patients more aggressively, thereby reducing mortality. In this way, the medical profession’s assumption that weight correlates with illness makes that correlation less visible in mortality data.

11. Medicine has made fat less harmful. “New pharmacological therapies and invasive treatments for existing disease may prolong survival,” the JAMA editorial points out. These and other advances, particularly those that reduce cholesterol and blood pressure, “may account for the weakening of associations between obesity and mortality.”

12. Overweight doesn’t mean you’re getting fat. It means you’re resisting obesity. "In a society prone to both epidemic and increasingly severe obesity, it may be that those who manage to remain in the 'overweight' class are, in fact, those who are actually doing quite well," says David Katz, director of Yale’s Prevention Research Center. So instead of seeing these people as formerly thin folks with bad habits, we should see them as fat-prone folks with good habits. How this squares with the notion of overweight as a gateway to obesity—a warning echoed by Katz—isn’t clear.

On one level, these explanations sound weak and weaselly. Dogmas, even in science, don’t surrender easily to contrary evidence. Experts who think weight gain is dangerous will find ways to reaffirm that belief, explaining away data that don’t fit it. But science, in its grudging way, does evolve. The explanations offered today in defense of the fat-is-bad doctrine are actually modifications of it. They’re taking us beyond crude categories such as BMI, overweight, and fat. A decade from now, we’ll still believe fat is bad for you, but we’ll be far more sophisticated in what we mean by “bad” and “fat.” And the JAMA study’s critics, like its defenders, will take the credit.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2013/01/if_fat_is_unhealthy_why_are_overweight_people_less_likely_to_die.html

by on Jan. 2, 2013 at 11:37 PM
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lga1965
by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:37 AM

 I am about 15-20 pounds overweight---I guess Iwill live longer?I think they are right about Doctors spending more time and effort on those of us who could lose some weight and have health issues associated with being overweight . My cholesterol level is high so he prescribed Zocor. My blood pressure is a litte high so I'm taking Lisinopril. I hate to take pills so I am going to lose weight and see if that will help. I used to weigh 125 until I started eating snacks and candy at work and sitting at a computer all day. Ugh. If I can lose weight and stop taking those friggin pills  I will be SO happy! Plus then I can once again wear some of my favorite clothes that haven't fit for a while. Yes, I am vain. LOL.

Ahhhh,gee. I am what some would describe as "fluffy".

Seashell77
by Member on Jan. 3, 2013 at 12:43 AM
Sounds good to me !!!! Finally a study which shows some health benefits for those who are pleasantly plump. Yey
paganbaby
by Teflon Don on Jan. 3, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Yea!!!

Aivlys_
by Member on Jan. 3, 2013 at 1:17 AM
Interesting....
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littlelamb303
by Bronze Member on Jan. 3, 2013 at 7:04 AM

I have read this before and I do agree, but only a little overweight.  I was slightly overweight most of my life and had NO health problems.  It was only after I gained a lot after suffering major tragedies in my life that I started to have health problems.  My grandmother was heavy the majority of her life, but she walked all over.  She lived to be in her mid 80s, which I think is a good age to die.

MrsErdos2011
by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 7:46 AM

My husband is almost the exact same. He does have a belly but the man lifts and moves 400 pound steel cages at work regularly without breaking a sweat. His nickname is the human forklift.

Quoting FrumpyMama:

I glad they put #8 in there. My son is considered "fat" for his age and height, but the kid is all muscle and I'm glad we have the level headed ped we do. 

We need fat to survive, I need fat to successfully bear children and breastfeed. But there really is a difference between healthy fat and unhealthy fat. I'm still overweight, yet I ran 10miles straight just last month.  Thanks for posting this.


I may not be a perfect wife or mother but I am perfect in the eyes of my son and my husband and that is all that matters.

radioheid
by Libertarian on Jan. 3, 2013 at 9:01 AM

 Perhaps the relevant bodies will finally change the numbers for what is defined as a healthy heigh-to-weight?

I'm currently mildly obese, working to get down into the mildly overweight category. My goal weight is 145, and the "healthy" cut-off is 142 for my age, build and height. I've always known 145 isn't *really* overweight for me.


"Roger that. Over."

R   A   D    I    O    H    E    I    D

oddgirl
by Bronze Member on Jan. 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM

This new study made me think of my friend who was always complaining about her weight. At 5' tall she was close to 140 pounds. She was a very healthy person at that weight.  We were exercise buddies and she had a healthy diet. I thought she looked fine, but I know what it's like to want to change your body.  Then she became seriously ill, had to be hospitalized and eventually had to have some of her intestine removed. She lost 40 pounds in the year long ordeal.

Now she's healthy again, but also much thinner. Sometimes she talks about when she "was fat" and I remind her that if she lost 40 pounds now she would be in serious trouble. 

eema.gray
by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

It's amazing how many excuses the experts came up with to "explain away" the results, LOL.  Also goes to show why the BMI tables are pretty much hopeless at determining health.


babyspots17
by Bronze Member on Jan. 3, 2013 at 1:21 PM
2 moms liked this
They just need to stop using the BMI and find a better more accurate guide!
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