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Why Atheism will replace Religion.

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Atheists are heavily concentrated in economically developed countries, particularly the social democracies of Europe (Barber, 2012). In underdeveloped countries, there are virtually no atheists

Atheism is thus a peculiarly modern phenomenon. Why do modern conditions produce atheism?

First, as to the distribution of atheism in the world, a clear pattern can be discerned. In sub-Saharan Africa there is almost no atheism (Zuckerman, 2007). Belief in God declines in more developed countries and is concentrated in Europe in countries such as Sweden (64% nonbelievers), Denmark (48%), France (44%) and Germany (42%). In contrast, the incidence of atheism in most sub-Saharan countries is below 1%.

The question of why economically developed countries turn to atheism has been batted around by anthropologists for about eighty years. Anthropologist James Fraser proposed that scientific prediction and control of nature supplants religion as a means of controlling uncertainty in our lives. This hunch is supported by data showing that the more educated countries have higher levels of non belief and there are strong correlations between atheism and intelligence (see my earlier post on this).

Atheists are more likely to be college-educated people who live in citiesand they are highly concentrated in the social democracies of Europe. Atheism thus blossoms amid affluence where most people feel economically secure. But why?

It seems that people turn to religion as a salve for the difficulties and uncertainties of their lives. In social democracies, there is less fear and uncertainty about the future because social welfare programs provide a safety net and better health care means that fewer people can expect to die young. People who are less vulnerable to the hostile forces of nature feel more in control of their lives and less in need of religion.



In addition to being the opium of the people (as Karl Marx contemptuously phrased it), religion may also promote fertility, particularly by promoting marriage, according to copious data reviewed by Sanderson (2008). Large families are preferred in agricultural countries as a source of free labor. In developed "atheist" countries, women have exceptionally small families and do not need religion helping them to raise large families.

Even the psychological functions of religion face stiff competition today. In modern societies, when people experience psychological difficulties they turn to their doctor, psychologist, or psychiatrist. They want a scientific fix and prefer the real psychotropic medicines dished out by physicians to the metaphorical opiates offered by religion.



Moreover, sport psychologists find that sports spectatorship provides much the same kind of social, and spiritual, benefits as people obtain from church membership. In a previous post, I made the case that sports is replacing religion. Precisely the same argument can be made for other forms of entertainment with which spectators become deeply involved.


Indeed, religion is striking back by trying to compete in popular media, such as televangelism and Christian rock and by hosting live secular entertainment in church.

The reasons that churches lose ground in developed countries can be summarized in market terms. First, with better science, and with government safety nets, and smaller families, there is less fear and uncertainty in people's daily lives and hence less of a market for religion. At the same time many alternative products are being offered, such as psychotropic medicines and electronic entertainment that have fewer strings attached and that do not require slavish conformity to unscientific beliefs.

References

Barber, N. (2012). Why atheism will replace religion: The triumph of earthly pleasures over pie in the sky. E-book, available at: http://www.amazon.com/Atheism-Will-Replace-Religion-ebook/dp/B00886ZSJ6/

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201005/why-atheism-will-replace-religion
by on Jan. 3, 2013 at 5:00 PM
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lga1965
by on Jan. 4, 2013 at 9:34 AM

 I was refering to another person who said "bla bla bla" etc. about the post. NOT you.

Quoting cueballsmom:

Quoting lga1965:

SHe has a huge chip on her shoulder and feelings of inferiority. Too bad.

The author or I? I didn't write it, just thought it interesting. I like psychology and it seemed as appropriate for this group as any other religious article.

Was going to post about Quatar developing a way to grow food in salt water. But decided there wasn't enough of an article.

 

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LoganTroyMom
by Bronze Member on Jan. 4, 2013 at 9:39 AM
you did READ the article, yes? If some Christian wrote the same article, replacing "atheism" with "Christianity", all hell would break loose.

no pun intended. :)


Quoting brookiecookie87:

Can you point to where the Article says any of that?

NO where does it say Atheist are smarter. No where does it say religious people are stupid and vulnerable.

If I said most Killers like music. It does not mean all people who like music are killers.

If people in underdeveloped countries are prone to religion it does not mean all people who believe in religion are in undeveloped countries. Not only does that statement not make any sense it is not true. It's the same logic you used to make both of your statements and just like the statement I gave you they are wrong.

Being Atheist will not make you smarter than a religious person. Being religious will not make you stupid or vulnerable. The article doesn't suggest any of that.


Quoting LoganTroyMom:

ok, so, atheists are smarter, religious people are stupid and vulnerable, blah blah, here's a cookie.


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brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Jan. 4, 2013 at 9:46 AM

I extremely doubt that. Like I pointed out to the other poster. This article does not make any of the claims she made. It also doesn't assert Atheism will replace Religion (In the sense that both of you are taking it).

It is trying to assert that Atheism will replace Religion as the popular choice. All the title is, is a sensationalist grab for attention.

If an article came out saying Why Christianity will Replace Atheism-I would be here saying the same thing. Sensationalist title that is a grab for attention.

Quoting LoganTroyMom:

you did READ the article, yes? If some Christian wrote the same article, replacing "atheism" with "Christianity", all hell would break loose.

no pun intended. :)


Quoting brookiecookie87:

Can you point to where the Article says any of that?

NO where does it say Atheist are smarter. No where does it say religious people are stupid and vulnerable.

If I said most Killers like music. It does not mean all people who like music are killers.

If people in underdeveloped countries are prone to religion it does not mean all people who believe in religion are in undeveloped countries. Not only does that statement not make any sense it is not true. It's the same logic you used to make both of your statements and just like the statement I gave you they are wrong.

Being Atheist will not make you smarter than a religious person. Being religious will not make you stupid or vulnerable. The article doesn't suggest any of that.


Quoting LoganTroyMom:

ok, so, atheists are smarter, religious people are stupid and vulnerable, blah blah, here's a cookie.



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by Sherri on Jan. 4, 2013 at 10:02 AM


Quoting cueballsmom:

Quoting moneysaver6:

First, atheism IS a religion. 

Second, this article is so full of logical fallicies, I'm surprised it was in a respected journal.


first, prove it's a religion.
A-means not, such as atypical, asexual, asymmetrical. Theist-means belief in a god or gods. Such as Christian, Greek gods, Wicca, or Hindu.

So, A-theism means "not a believer in god or gods"
It is the anti-religion.

Second if it is logical fallacies (which you committed by believe that any large group who think the same way is a religion) please point them out. This is a discussion after all.

I have to correct what I highlighted in red.  Antireligion is opposition to religion.  While many of those who are antireligion are atheists, most atheists are actually areligious - not against, but indifferent to religion.  

Sorry.  My kids call me the Grammar Nazi.

Sherri

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12hellokitty
by Platinum Member on Jan. 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM


Quoting turtle68:

 

Quoting 12hellokitty:

Atheism will never replace religion, because it has nothing to offer.  With the recent school shooting it was not the Atheist community that responded in mass, but the multi-faith community reaching all across the globe.   

 So there were no athiest who sent out their condolences and hope for the community? 

Atheism has the same to offer as religion.... love and community outreach only without belief attachments.  Knowledge to ease grief without unknown, unseen hand in the equation.  Its freeing.

In my upbringing I have watched happy lives without religion and happy lives with religion....however the scales have tipped heavily in favour of the "without religion" group.  Happy is Happy...religion and atheism both offer it.


Atheism can not define love.

babie113
by Silver Member on Jan. 4, 2013 at 11:08 AM

how is it a religion ...?????

Quoting moneysaver6:

It absolutely is!  But we can agree to disagree.

Quoting babie113:

Atheism is not a religion.

Quoting moneysaver6:

First, atheism IS a religion. 

Second, this article is so full of logical fallicies, I'm surprised it was in a respected journal.




cueballsmom
by Silver Member on Jan. 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM
Quoting PurdueMom:


You are absolutely right, but I was trying to nail the idea through a brick like head. Strong language sometimes shocks some people into understanding what your saying,

But yes, I should have used indifference, because that is exactly what Atheism is.
Dzyre1115
by Silver Member on Jan. 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

 The Bible said it would.....odd!

yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jan. 4, 2013 at 11:12 AM

 Just keep on believing whatever you want to believe.

 

cueballsmom
by Silver Member on Jan. 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM
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Quoting 12hellokitty:

Atheism can not define love.


Do you NEED love defined?
I don't look to a book to realize what love is.
Like most Atheist, I know what it is because my mom, my kids, my DH love me. And I know what love is by the way I feel, when they are near, or when they are far away.

Love doesn't need to be defined. That's absolutely the WORST argument for religion I've ever heard.
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