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Firm wants to sell pot in vending machines

 

Recreational marijuana users could get pot from vending machines, company says

Now that Colorado and Washington have legalized marijuana, entrepreneurs are embarking on what is being called "the green rush." NBC's Pete Williams reports.

By Jeff Black, NBC News

If a California company has its way, recreational marijuana users in Colorado and Washington state will one day be able to get their pot out of vending machines.

Such machines are already in use in some states where medical marijuana is legal, but now the maker's founder says the company is working to adapt the machines to comply with new laws in Colorado and Washington, where adults can legally use marijuana for recreation.

The vending machines for medicine require a fingerprint scan to verify the identification of the patient, which is then linked to a prescription on file.

But as Washington and Colorado figure out how to create a legal pot market for the masses, Hollywood-based Medbox, a public company, is offering up its expertise in convenient delivery systems.


"One day we envision these machines to be accessed, when it's allowed, 24 hours a day," Vincent Mehdizadeh, the founder and chief consultant of a subsidiary of Medbox that produces, installs and consults on the vending business, told NBC News. "One day in the future that may happen, but for now these machines sit behind the counter as an inventory control and compliance tool."

He said the Medbox machines and consultancy are in high demand in states such as Arizona, Massachusetts and Connecticut that have published medical marijuana regulations. Dispensaries use them to keep marijuana from being pilfered and comply with laws.

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Medbox is now offering to work with Washington and Colorado officials who are mobilizing to create the framework for a legal marijuana industry - and to collect taxes on pot sales.

"These machines behind the counter act an inventory control and taxation tracking tool so that the states can effectively track the taxes and collect on them more efficiently with real-time reporting directly from the machine to the state database," Mehdizadeh said.

The company also helps operators get licensed in states that have licensing programs.

"We've probably been the most successful consulting firm in the marijuana business," he said.

Mikhail Carpenter, spokesman for Washington's Liquor Control Board, said Medbox has been in contact with the state but at this point no outside vendors have been chosen to help with marijuana sales.

Under state law, marijuana and marijuana-infused products, Carpenter said, would have to be sold from inside the confines of a retail outlet.

"So I can't imagine with the way the law is written that you would see vending machines on the street corner," Carpenter told NBC News.

In November, Washington and Colorado voters passed initiatives to legalize the recreational use of marijuana. Those laws went into effect last month.

Buzzkill: Feds fire warning shot over pot legalization

In Washington state, voter-approved Initiative 502 made it legal for anyone 21 or over to possess up to an ounce of marijuana, 16 ounces of "solid marijuana-infused product" (pot brownies and such) or 72 ounces of "marijuana-infused liquid.

Washington's Liquor Control Board has until Dec. 1 to develop rules for implementation of its new recreational marijuana law.

Watch the most-viewed videos on NBCNews.com

Colorado, under Amendment 64 to the state Constitution, legalized not only recreational use, but also home growing, which is still illegal in Washington.

Growing, selling and possessing marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and the federal government is reviewing options in both Washington and Colorado.

President Barack Obama last month weighed in on the issue, telling ABC's Barbara Walters the federal government has more important things to do than go after recreational marijuana users.

"We have bigger fish to fry," he told Walters.

by on Jan. 4, 2013 at 8:15 AM
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survivorinohio
by René on Jan. 5, 2013 at 1:38 PM

pot will thrive up against the foundation in the flower gerden like that stubborn nettle I cant get rid of cuz the root is so long or those weedy trees that go crazy. 

Quoting wickedfiress:

Lol I would somehow kill it. I have not ever managed to keep a house plant alive. Ever. Even my chia pet died! Lol

My mom on the other had has a damned indoor garden in her dining room.


Quoting turtle68:

 its a weed LOL...you dont need a green thumb :-)


Quoting wickedfiress:

Eh, I have a black thumb so that would be a big waste of money for me.


Quoting turtle68:


 why would anyone pay for MJ in a state where its legal....buy a potplant and be happy for free :-)


 


How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


priceless3238
by on Jan. 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM

When you get a drivers license in colorado they take your fingerprint so they are already on file anyway

They also use the same type of system for lotto tickets and I have yet to hear about any problems caused by them 

Quoting meriana:

That probably works well where MJ is legal for medicinal use only but in states that have legalized it for recreational use, I can see some problems. For one thing, I doubt everyone has had their fingerprints put on file and many wouldn't want to go do that if they haven't which could lead to an outcry (Gov. interference; Gov. surveilance; discrimination, Gov doesn't need to know if I smoke pot; etcl) against the machines requiring fingerprint identification in order to use them.

Then there's this: "One day we envision these machines to be accessed, when it's allowed, 24 hours a day," Vincent Mehdizadeh, the founder and chief consultant of a subsidiary of Medbox that produces, installs and consults on the vending business, told NBC News.

The only way they'd be accessible 24 hrs a day would be if the place that had them was open 24 hrs a day...now lets see...what types of businesses are open 24 hrs a day: Casino's; Walmart; Safeways; some convenience stores come to mind. Yep, they got rid of the cigarette vending machines (at least I haven't seen one in years) because kids accessed them but lets look forward to putting pot vending machines in as many places as possible.


priceless3238
by on Jan. 5, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Well if someone wanted to give marijuana away they could do it in much simpler ways than using a vending machine dontcha think? Im sure the vending machines would be very expensive. 

They also use machines like this for loto tickets here in CO and I have not heard of any problems with them

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I saw this on our local news last night.  I live in Washington.  I supported the marijuana bill, but I don't support these machines.  They are too difficult to regulate.  What would stop someone from using their fingerprint to buy for someone else?  To me, this would be irresponsible.


priceless3238
by on Jan. 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM

They do have alcohol vending machines in some places lol 

Quoting DropZoneMom:

Utter stupidity.  Makes about as much sense as selling alcohol through vending machines.  


priceless3238
by on Jan. 5, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Well because it is NOT bad and it can be normal for people to use it 

Quoting coupon_ash_back:

Wow....I can't believe pot isn't looked at as a being bad much anymore. It's just normal...smh. Oh we'll, whatever floats your boat I guess.


priceless3238
by on Jan. 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM


Quoting meriana:


Quoting wickedfiress:

Eh, I have a black thumb so that would be a big waste of money for me.

Quoting turtle68:

 why would anyone pay for MJ in a state where its legal....buy a potplant and be happy for free :-)


Even though it's legal for recreational use in Washington State, it will still be ILLEGAL to grow your own. It'll take the state about another year to decide how they're going to deal with it and regulate it, etc. So far, they've broken it down into 3 steps: growing; processing and selling and have put a 25% tax on each step. All those growers; processors and sellers are going to be making a proft so, while I have no idea how much the stuff costs, I can imagine the cost will rise considerably with all the added tax. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find the state spending just as much as they do now attempting to find those who decide to grow their own and stop them from doing so. Then there will be those who either don't want to pay that tax or cannot afford to and they will probably continue to go to their trusted dealer who won't be charging all that tax.

They would have been better off legalizing it for med purposes only and would have had a much better chance of regulating it to at least some degree.

I am glad I live in CO and not Washington. Here in CO it is legal to grow your own. I dont see why you would make it legal but keep it still illegal to grow your own. 

Friday
by HRH of MJ on Jan. 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM


Quoting turtle68:

 why would anyone pay for MJ in a state where its legal....buy a potplant and be happy for free :-)

Because it's not that free. We grew 3 plants a couple of years ago and the added electric costs, plant food and maintenance can be a pain. Most would rather go to the store to get what they want.

 


Thank God......it's Friday!!!

meriana
by Platinum Member on Jan. 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM


Quoting priceless3238:

When you get a drivers license in colorado they take your fingerprint so they are already on file anyway

They also use the same type of system for lotto tickets and I have yet to hear about any problems caused by them 

Quoting meriana:

That probably works well where MJ is legal for medicinal use only but in states that have legalized it for recreational use, I can see some problems. For one thing, I doubt everyone has had their fingerprints put on file and many wouldn't want to go do that if they haven't which could lead to an outcry (Gov. interference; Gov. surveilance; discrimination, Gov doesn't need to know if I smoke pot; etcl) against the machines requiring fingerprint identification in order to use them.

Then there's this: "One day we envision these machines to be accessed, when it's allowed, 24 hours a day," Vincent Mehdizadeh, the founder and chief consultant of a subsidiary of Medbox that produces, installs and consults on the vending business, told NBC News.

The only way they'd be accessible 24 hrs a day would be if the place that had them was open 24 hrs a day...now lets see...what types of businesses are open 24 hrs a day: Casino's; Walmart; Safeways; some convenience stores come to mind. Yep, they got rid of the cigarette vending machines (at least I haven't seen one in years) because kids accessed them but lets look forward to putting pot vending machines in as many places as possible.

 

 

They don't do fingerprints when one applys for a drivers license in Washington state. About the only reason one would have their finger prints on file would be if they do or have worked for a company or in a  volunteer position where it was required.


meriana
by Platinum Member on Jan. 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM


Quoting priceless3238:

 

Quoting meriana:

 

Quoting wickedfiress:

Eh, I have a black thumb so that would be a big waste of money for me.

Quoting turtle68:

 why would anyone pay for MJ in a state where its legal....buy a potplant and be happy for free :-)


Even though it's legal for recreational use in Washington State, it will still be ILLEGAL to grow your own. It'll take the state about another year to decide how they're going to deal with it and regulate it, etc. So far, they've broken it down into 3 steps: growing; processing and selling and have put a 25% tax on each step. All those growers; processors and sellers are going to be making a proft so, while I have no idea how much the stuff costs, I can imagine the cost will rise considerably with all the added tax. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find the state spending just as much as they do now attempting to find those who decide to grow their own and stop them from doing so. Then there will be those who either don't want to pay that tax or cannot afford to and they will probably continue to go to their trusted dealer who won't be charging all that tax.

They would have been better off legalizing it for med purposes only and would have had a much better chance of regulating it to at least some degree.

I am glad I live in CO and not Washington. Here in CO it is legal to grow your own. I dont see why you would make it legal but keep it still illegal to grow your own. 

Because they believe that by setting up state licensed growers; state licensed processors and state licensed stores to sell it, then taxing it will bring tons of money into the state coffers and that they will actually be able to regulate it.  They assume that people who use it will happily go to the state licensed stores and pay whatever the price is.  They've overlooked the fact that those who don't want to pay the high price or can't will continue to go to the dealer they've gotten it from all this time and probably get more for the same amount of funds than what they'd get at the state store or they'll just grow it in their closet. They should have left it at med use only with very very very strict controls.

EireLass
by Ruby Member on Jan. 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Ahhhh. I thought you were saying patients buying for others.

For recreational use, I think it should be the same as alcohol. I haven't ever heard of booze in a machine. Egad.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

It was approved for recreational use in Washington. That was the gist of the story on our news channels. They were talking about vending machines for recreational pot.
Quoting EireLass:

If it is connected medically, why would they? When you get your medical card...this is a process. You don't just get a card from your doctor. Your doctor determines the need, applies to the state, the state decided the need, the state sends a card. With the card, you are only allowed to buy a certain amount per month. This is a prescription just like any other. If you had the need, why would you give your prescription away? You can't go get more.

Quoting JakeandEmmasMom:

 I saw this on our local news last night.  I live in Washington.  I supported the marijuana bill, but I don't support these machines.  They are too difficult to regulate.  What would stop someone from using their fingerprint to buy for someone else?  To me, this would be irresponsible.

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