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This is purely hypothetical and is being posted for the sake of discussion and curiosity.  

I've often seen posts asking if parent's ask the parents of their children's friends if there are guns in the home before they let their children go over to the home.  

My question is to those that do own a gun, would you tell the parents of your children's friends if they were to ask you if you had guns in the home?  Would the question put you off and prevent you from having their child over to your home to play?   How far would you be willing to go to alleviate the concerns of the child's parents?  

by on Jan. 7, 2013 at 3:28 PM
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Farmlady09
by Silver Member on Jan. 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM
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Lol ~ I live on the east coast ~ between the state capital and Charleston. Your idea of isolation is as different from mine as your idea of irresponsible and disgusting. I will say that I'm seriously considering a move to Alaska, simply because even if the rest of the lower 48 falls apart, AK isn't going to change a bit. It would be an upgrade from coyotes to grizzlies and wolves (and hopefully an eagle or two!). You go right on living in your rat warren and all the ick that comes with it.

On the other hand, I don't need your permission to live my life as I see fit, so you can save it for someone even more indoctrinated than yourself.

Whether or not you like my lectures (and not liking them because you have no answer that has any logic to rebutt them with), you'll see them every time you insist that gun control will make your little bubble better. I won't ever give you the right to change my world or life because your little bubble is filled with smog and paranoia. The simple fact is that you don't really care about things that are dangerous to more children, only about controlling gun owners. Hypocrite.

Quoting lga1965:

 I am sure I could find a whole bunch of other stories but it would not reach you at all. You only have YOUR Annie Oakley,living in the wilds, viewpoint and everyone else is wrong. YOU live in a bubble in the wilderness where you are  rooted way in the past and can't see the present day and can't see how anyone could live a different life than yours. So isolated and odd.I would really hate to be related to you. Ugh.

I am really bored with your lectures.

I live in the city and I wouldn't have it any other way. You can keep your goats and your guns to defend yourself against "the enemy".....the "bad guys", whoever they are.

Quoting Farmlady09:

I didn't say I didn't worry about little humans. I said stop telling them (and so many adults) that it's ok to be stupid. Stop trying to make capable people live in the same safety bubble a stupid person needs to be kept in.

I read that story the first time you posted it. If this happens so often, why can't you post different stories each time you begin chanting for gun control? And ~ the father in this case was a dimwit. Sleeping on a loaded handgun can wind up with a person blowing their own dimwit head off. Yes, it IS tragic that a child ended up dead because of his stupidity ... but why are you so willing to punish everyone?

Are you willing to ban all dogs (maybe make them extinct) because some parents are dimwits and leave the dog and a baby or toddler alone and that child is bitten, mauled, or killed? Keep in mind that ANY dog can (and has) do this ~ itty bitty chis are JUST as capable of eating the baby as a rottie or pitty.

Are you willing to ban all second floors (and everything taller) because some dimwits let their child climb out the window or drop off a balcony?

Are you willing to ban all cars, which kill more children every year than those disgusting guns, whether or not the drivers are drunk?

How about all medication? Every single pill/liquid on the market has killed a child or adult at some point ~ whether it's because of allergies, or an incorrect dose, someone died from every single one at least once. So should we ban them (or the doctors/nurses who screw up the dosage/patient because they are irresponsible)?

The list is endless Iga ~ and the fact is that even if guns were banned from the entire country, bad people (criminals) WOULD still have them. No good person, no law-abiding person, no decent person would ... but the dimwits would.

I don't have a problem with safety classes ~ in fact, I'm all for that. I do have a problem with more fees, treating good people worse than pedophiles and rapists, and an entire list of weapons picked because some stupid dimwit looked at a picture of them and thought they looked scary.

The father in your article should be punished ~ and screw our laws that ban cruel and unusual. Make the man suffer (toss him expertly off the city walls onto spikes so he hangs there suffering for a few days and everyone can ogle him and taunt him until he dies like the Turks used to do ... or on an ant hill coated in honey). Choose whatever punishment you feel is harsh enough for letting a child die in such a manner ~ but stop aiming your frustration with dimwits at people who AREN'T dimwits. That won't solve the problem.

For the record, yes, I do love my goats ~ and anyone who couldn't take one look at those long ears and those little alien eyes and be reduced to an awwwwww moment has no business pretending to care about little humans.

Quoting lga1965:

 Grrrrreat. You must be so proud that you love your goats and don't worry about little humans finding a gun and accidentally shooting a sibling. It happens all the time!

Here is one example. A father was ready for the criminals with his guns not locked away...One examope,JUST one...there are more:

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22269022/minneapolis-dad-charged-2-year-olds-shooting-death

A young family's tragedy -- the accidental shooting death of a child by his older brother -- was borne of the father's own recklessness, prosecutors claimed as they charged the father with the death.

The Hennepin County attorney charged the father, Kao Chongsua Xiong, in the case Thursday, Dec. 27, alleging he intentionally and carelessly left the loaded handgun and other firearms lying around home where his children could easily get their hands on them

Quoting Farmlady09:

If they are locked up they are useless. No rapist or burglar is going to stand around twiddling their thumbs because a homeowners says 'hang on, I have to unlock my gun and go to the other room and unlock the bullets and load it'.

The coyotes won't stop gnawing on my goat kids if I ask them to wait, no matter how politely I ask. I can't find any good reason to feed one of these ...

to a coyote because my gun and ammo are locked up all safe somewhere in the house. She's a month old ~ why should HER life be at risk because you are paranoid and other people are irresponsible??

Even thinking that way pretty much clears up who is the dimwit (keep in mind you're the one that brought that up). The plain truth is that the 'dimwits' are the ones who have ANYthing in their home that is dangerous and don't teach their children properly. It's their own fault. People today don't seem to be able to say 'It's my fault' and are willing to blame everyone and everything else but themselves. Stop promoting dimwit growth!

 

 

Quoting lga1965:

 I am not saying guns should be banned---I am saying they should not be around little kids. They need to be locked up. 

 How is that paranoid?

How is that passive aggessive? LOL. You are such a dimwit.

Quoting Farmlady09:

That protects families and friends. ... and criminals.

Your idea of what constitutes irresponsible and disgusting don't seem to fit any of the definitions I've ever read ~ or yours are just a passive-aggessive way of calling people more names. I'm all for safety and responsibility, but not catering to paranoia.

Quoting lga1965:

 Well....I don't recall addressing my reply directly to you. Only to people who say they won't go out of their way to keep their guns locked away. Guns can be dangerous for small kids. That's why it is up to adults to keep them away from kids. There have been some news items lately about little kids who were able to get their hands on guns and ended up killing their brothers and a few friends.Gun classes stress keeping your firearms locked up and ammo stored in a separate location. That protects families and friends.

 

Quoting DSamuels:

Really? I don't know a single responsible gun owner that wouldn't care if a visiting child found their gun(s). We don't keep our guns in a safe, but we also don't have them sitting out for children to find them.

My husband didn't get a handgun until our kids were older. The rifles & shotguns were never kept loaded. We do keep a handgun in our room, on his side of the bed, loaded but without a bullet in the chamber. If a child "found" the gun in our room, I'd want to know WTH they were doing snooping in my room.

We are neither irresponsible or disgusting. SMH


Quoting lga1965:

We never had guns. I wouldn't let my kids play at a friends house if they guns, particularly after finding out that too many gun owners don't care if a visiting child finds their guns that are not kept locked up. That is irresponsible and disgusting

No way did we ever want to come in contact with weapons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


lga1965
by on Jan. 7, 2013 at 11:49 PM

 Ohhh, Harleyville? LOL. I worked there for a while as a Temp accountant and they are a bunch of racist yahoos. (well, my boss wasn't. He was a good guy. )Is that it? Or Sumter? Lived there too for, three months--  Shaw AFB. Any of the small towns and farmlands  harbor fearful ,prejudiced , small-minded people ( locals)...just like you with your guns and your goats. Good luck with that.

I did mention that I am bored with your lectures. Pay attention.

YOU are the one in the bubble. Have you been out of the USA? Have you met and made friends with people in other countries? Have you expanded your mind enough to see the viewpoints of people who don't live in the backwoods of SC? I bet you haven't. And you missed out.

Don't bother to reply with another Lecture. I have had enough.

Quoting Farmlady09:

Lol ~ I live on the east coast ~ between the state capital and Charleston. Your idea of isolation is as different from mine as your idea of irresponsible and disgusting. I will say that I'm seriously considering a move to Alaska, simply because even if the rest of the lower 48 falls apart, AK isn't going to change a bit. It would be an upgrade from coyotes to grizzlies and wolves (and hopefully an eagle or two!). You go right on living in your rat warren and all the ick that comes with it.

On the other hand, I don't need your permission to live my life as I see fit, so you can save it for someone even more indoctrinated than yourself.

Whether or not you like my lectures (and not liking them because you have no answer that has any logic to rebutt them with), you'll see them every time you insist that gun control will make your little bubble better. I won't ever give you the right to change my world or life because your little bubble is filled with smog and paranoia. The simple fact is that you don't really care about things that are dangerous to more children, only about controlling gun owners. Hypocrite.

Quoting lga1965:

 I am sure I could find a whole bunch of other stories but it would not reach you at all. You only have YOUR Annie Oakley,living in the wilds, viewpoint and everyone else is wrong. YOU live in a bubble in the wilderness where you are  rooted way in the past and can't see the present day and can't see how anyone could live a different life than yours. So isolated and odd.I would really hate to be related to you. Ugh.

I am really bored with your lectures.

I live in the city and I wouldn't have it any other way. You can keep your goats and your guns to defend yourself against "the enemy".....the "bad guys", whoever they are.

Quoting Farmlady09:

I didn't say I didn't worry about little humans. I said stop telling them (and so many adults) that it's ok to be stupid. Stop trying to make capable people live in the same safety bubble a stupid person needs to be kept in.

I read that story the first time you posted it. If this happens so often, why can't you post different stories each time you begin chanting for gun control? And ~ the father in this case was a dimwit. Sleeping on a loaded handgun can wind up with a person blowing their own dimwit head off. Yes, it IS tragic that a child ended up dead because of his stupidity ... but why are you so willing to punish everyone?

Are you willing to ban all dogs (maybe make them extinct) because some parents are dimwits and leave the dog and a baby or toddler alone and that child is bitten, mauled, or killed? Keep in mind that ANY dog can (and has) do this ~ itty bitty chis are JUST as capable of eating the baby as a rottie or pitty.

Are you willing to ban all second floors (and everything taller) because some dimwits let their child climb out the window or drop off a balcony?

Are you willing to ban all cars, which kill more children every year than those disgusting guns, whether or not the drivers are drunk?

How about all medication? Every single pill/liquid on the market has killed a child or adult at some point ~ whether it's because of allergies, or an incorrect dose, someone died from every single one at least once. So should we ban them (or the doctors/nurses who screw up the dosage/patient because they are irresponsible)?

The list is endless Iga ~ and the fact is that even if guns were banned from the entire country, bad people (criminals) WOULD still have them. No good person, no law-abiding person, no decent person would ... but the dimwits would.

I don't have a problem with safety classes ~ in fact, I'm all for that. I do have a problem with more fees, treating good people worse than pedophiles and rapists, and an entire list of weapons picked because some stupid dimwit looked at a picture of them and thought they looked scary.

The father in your article should be punished ~ and screw our laws that ban cruel and unusual. Make the man suffer (toss him expertly off the city walls onto spikes so he hangs there suffering for a few days and everyone can ogle him and taunt him until he dies like the Turks used to do ... or on an ant hill coated in honey). Choose whatever punishment you feel is harsh enough for letting a child die in such a manner ~ but stop aiming your frustration with dimwits at people who AREN'T dimwits. That won't solve the problem.

For the record, yes, I do love my goats ~ and anyone who couldn't take one look at those long ears and those little alien eyes and be reduced to an awwwwww moment has no business pretending to care about little humans.

Quoting lga1965:

 Grrrrreat. You must be so proud that you love your goats and don't worry about little humans finding a gun and accidentally shooting a sibling. It happens all the time!

Here is one example. A father was ready for the criminals with his guns not locked away...One examope,JUST one...there are more:

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_22269022/minneapolis-dad-charged-2-year-olds-shooting-death

A young family's tragedy -- the accidental shooting death of a child by his older brother -- was borne of the father's own recklessness, prosecutors claimed as they charged the father with the death.

The Hennepin County attorney charged the father, Kao Chongsua Xiong, in the case Thursday, Dec. 27, alleging he intentionally and carelessly left the loaded handgun and other firearms lying around home where his children could easily get their hands on them

Quoting Farmlady09:

If they are locked up they are useless. No rapist or burglar is going to stand around twiddling their thumbs because a homeowners says 'hang on, I have to unlock my gun and go to the other room and unlock the bullets and load it'.

The coyotes won't stop gnawing on my goat kids if I ask them to wait, no matter how politely I ask. I can't find any good reason to feed one of these ...

to a coyote because my gun and ammo are locked up all safe somewhere in the house. She's a month old ~ why should HER life be at risk because you are paranoid and other people are irresponsible??

Even thinking that way pretty much clears up who is the dimwit (keep in mind you're the one that brought that up). The plain truth is that the 'dimwits' are the ones who have ANYthing in their home that is dangerous and don't teach their children properly. It's their own fault. People today don't seem to be able to say 'It's my fault' and are willing to blame everyone and everything else but themselves. Stop promoting dimwit growth!

 

 

Quoting lga1965:

 I am not saying guns should be banned---I am saying they should not be around little kids. They need to be locked up. 

 How is that paranoid?

How is that passive aggessive? LOL. You are such a dimwit.

Quoting Farmlady09:

That protects families and friends. ... and criminals.

Your idea of what constitutes irresponsible and disgusting don't seem to fit any of the definitions I've ever read ~ or yours are just a passive-aggessive way of calling people more names. I'm all for safety and responsibility, but not catering to paranoia.

Quoting lga1965:

 Well....I don't recall addressing my reply directly to you. Only to people who say they won't go out of their way to keep their guns locked away. Guns can be dangerous for small kids. That's why it is up to adults to keep them away from kids. There have been some news items lately about little kids who were able to get their hands on guns and ended up killing their brothers and a few friends.Gun classes stress keeping your firearms locked up and ammo stored in a separate location. That protects families and friends.

 

Quoting DSamuels:

Really? I don't know a single responsible gun owner that wouldn't care if a visiting child found their gun(s). We don't keep our guns in a safe, but we also don't have them sitting out for children to find them.

My husband didn't get a handgun until our kids were older. The rifles & shotguns were never kept loaded. We do keep a handgun in our room, on his side of the bed, loaded but without a bullet in the chamber. If a child "found" the gun in our room, I'd want to know WTH they were doing snooping in my room.

We are neither irresponsible or disgusting. SMH


Quoting lga1965:

We never had guns. I wouldn't let my kids play at a friends house if they guns, particularly after finding out that too many gun owners don't care if a visiting child finds their guns that are not kept locked up. That is irresponsible and disgusting

No way did we ever want to come in contact with weapons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go.”
Dr. Seuss

Farmlady09
by Silver Member on Jan. 8, 2013 at 12:05 AM
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DH retired out of Shaw ~ we're a two hour drive from there now.

I'll grant that this state is a cesspool for racism ... and it comes in every color. Sigh. Sumter needs to be walled in and just turned into a prison at this point ~ which is why I'm far away from it and out in the boonies. As for living in other places, um ~ yes. That's what military life means. I was born/raised in PA (DH is from IL). I've lived in 11 states in various cities/towns, and I've been to 14 countries (travel/stationed there).

SC wasn't our first choice for retirement, it was just more convenient at the time. We're very seriously reconsidering at this point. It's too hot to die here, it's humid, there are too many tornadoes, and the flipping mosquitoes scare the hummingbirds. There is that racism you spoke of, and far more meth heads than even the racist ones. Did I mention it's hot? Oh ... spiders. Dang does it have spiders. They don't even have the decency to die during what passes for winter here!

Your little bubble really is cloudy ( and more small minded than the mosquitoes).

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Quoting lga1965:

 Ohhh, Harleyville? LOL. I worked there for a while as a Temp accountant and they are a bunch of racist yahoos. (well, my boss wasn't. He was a good guy. )Is that it? Or Sumter? Lived there too for, three months--  Shaw AFB. Any of the small towns and farmlands  harbor fearful ,prejudiced , small-minded people ( locals)...just like you with your guns and your goats. Good luck with that.

I did mention that I am bored with your lectures. Pay attention.

YOU are the one in the bubble. Have you been out of the USA? Have you met and made friends with people in other countries? Have you expanded your mind enough to see the viewpoints of people who don't live in the backwoods of SC? I bet you haven't. And you missed out.

Don't bother to reply with another Lecture. I have had enough.

Quoting Farmlady09:

Lol ~ I live on the east coast ~ between the state capital and Charleston. Your idea of isolation is as different from mine as your idea of irresponsible and disgusting. I will say that I'm seriously considering a move to Alaska, simply because even if the rest of the lower 48 falls apart, AK isn't going to change a bit. It would be an upgrade from coyotes to grizzlies and wolves (and hopefully an eagle or two!). You go right on living in your rat warren and all the ick that comes with it.

On the other hand, I don't need your permission to live my life as I see fit, so you can save it for someone even more indoctrinated than yourself.

Whether or not you like my lectures (and not liking them because you have no answer that has any logic to rebutt them with), you'll see them every time you insist that gun control will make your little bubble better. I won't ever give you the right to change my world or life because your little bubble is filled with smog and paranoia. The simple fact is that you don't really care about things that are dangerous to more children, only about controlling gun owners. Hypocrite.

Quoting lga1965:

 I am sure I could find a whole bunch of other stories but it would not reach you at all. You only have YOUR Annie Oakley,living in the wilds, viewpoint and everyone else is wrong. YOU live in a bubble in the wilderness where you are  rooted way in the past and can't see the present day and can't see how anyone could live a different life than yours. So isolated and odd.I would really hate to be related to you. Ugh.

I am really bored with your lectures.

I live in the city and I wouldn't have it any other way. You can keep your goats and your guns to defend yourself against "the enemy".....the "bad guys", whoever they are.

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ILive4This
by Bronze Member on Jan. 8, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Hm, I have 3 grown kids (one 13yo still), and I've never been asked, nor have I asked.  Guns have never been part of my thought process.  

JMmama
by Bronze Member on Jan. 8, 2013 at 12:18 AM
You would probably like Alaska. Plenty of guns, no spiders. And it doesn't get too hot. :-)

Quoting Farmlady09:

DH retired out of Shaw ~ we're a two hour drive from there now.


I'll grant that this state is a cesspool for racism ... and it comes in every color. Sigh. Sumter needs to be walled in and just turned into a prison at this point ~ which is why I'm far away from it and out in the boonies. As for living in other places, um ~ yes. That's what military life means. I was born/raised in PA (DH is from IL). I've lived in 11 states in various cities/towns, and I've been to 14 countries (travel/stationed there).


SC wasn't our first choice for retirement, it was just more convenient at the time. We're very seriously reconsidering at this point. It's too hot to die here, it's humid, there are too many tornadoes, and the flipping mosquitoes scare the hummingbirds. There is that racism you spoke of, and far more meth heads than even the racist ones. Did I mention it's hot? Oh ... spiders. Dang does it have spiders. They don't even have the decency to die during what passes for winter here!


Your little bubble really is cloudy ( and more small minded than the mosquitoes).


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Quoting lga1965:


 Ohhh, Harleyville? LOL. I worked there for a while as a Temp accountant and they are a bunch of racist yahoos. (well, my boss wasn't. He was a good guy. )Is that it? Or Sumter? Lived there too for, three months--  Shaw AFB. Any of the small towns and farmlands  harbor fearful ,prejudiced , small-minded people ( locals)...just like you with your guns and your goats. Good luck with that.


I did mention that I am bored with your lectures. Pay attention.


YOU are the one in the bubble. Have you been out of the USA? Have you met and made friends with people in other countries? Have you expanded your mind enough to see the viewpoints of people who don't live in the backwoods of SC? I bet you haven't. And you missed out.


Don't bother to reply with another Lecture. I have had enough.


Quoting Farmlady09:


Lol ~ I live on the east coast ~ between the state capital and Charleston. Your idea of isolation is as different from mine as your idea of irresponsible and disgusting. I will say that I'm seriously considering a move to Alaska, simply because even if the rest of the lower 48 falls apart, AK isn't going to change a bit. It would be an upgrade from coyotes to grizzlies and wolves (and hopefully an eagle or two!). You go right on living in your rat warren and all the ick that comes with it.


On the other hand, I don't need your permission to live my life as I see fit, so you can save it for someone even more indoctrinated than yourself.


Whether or not you like my lectures (and not liking them because you have no answer that has any logic to rebutt them with), you'll see them every time you insist that gun control will make your little bubble better. I won't ever give you the right to change my world or life because your little bubble is filled with smog and paranoia. The simple fact is that you don't really care about things that are dangerous to more children, only about controlling gun owners. Hypocrite.


Quoting lga1965:


 I am sure I could find a whole bunch of other stories but it would not reach you at all. You only have YOUR Annie Oakley,living in the wilds, viewpoint and everyone else is wrong. YOU live in a bubble in the wilderness where you are  rooted way in the past and can't see the present day and can't see how anyone could live a different life than yours. So isolated and odd.I would really hate to be related to you. Ugh.


I am really bored with your lectures.


I live in the city and I wouldn't have it any other way. You can keep your goats and your guns to defend yourself against "the enemy".....the "bad guys", whoever they are.


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Ziva65
by Gold Member on Jan. 8, 2013 at 12:29 AM
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Quoting Bieg9093:

 

Quoting Joqui:

I don't own any guns and I don't usually let my son go over people's home (he is 6) and much less my dd (she is 4). I've allowed Elijah to go on 1 playdate outside of my supervision, aside from that most playdates are done at my home. I have never asked if parents have had a gun in their home. I probably should consider asking.... But how do you even go about doing that? Hey! Yea I'm Elijah's mom nice to meet you... oh... do you own guns?! are they locked up? Can I inspect that? LOL

I'm serious I wouldn't even know where to begin.

 I've never felt any compulsion to ask, but if I wanted to, I'd probably lump it in with other stuff.  Such as "Since this is Johnny's first time here, are there any special safety rules he should know about?  Is there a pool, or guns, or a dog he should avoid?  Are there any rooms that are off limits?"

That's how I'd do it.

Interesting about the pool and dog too. I never let kids over to my house that I knew couldn't swim, because we have a pool- even though I watched them like a hawk, had two adults there, and a pool cover. I also didn't let kids over who had any behavior issue- because I wouldn't trust their behavior around my pool or dogs (even though my dogs are well behaved and can be locked up). But they are still dogs, and the best behaved dogs if taunted could bite. It's true what a previous poster said above about the warning labels... it's like if people now need warning labels on everything. It's almost dangerous to have a playdate period.

The liability alone of a poorly behaved kid in my house, even if I have rules and liability insurance- simply isn't worth it. Ugh, so glad my kids are past that age. We have however had team sports parties, and some kids were not allowed to come- or I'd require the parent be present with them the whole time. No kidding.

I think it comes down to knowing the family really, really well, far in advance of a playdate if we have to ask all these questions. At least that worked for us :)

kailu1835
by Ruby Member on Jan. 8, 2013 at 12:29 AM

I would not lie if asked straight out, but neither would I volunteer the information. My guns are all locked up in a safe that no kid ever has access to.  It has no bearing on the safety of the children in my care.

Healthystart30
by Silver Member on Jan. 8, 2013 at 12:59 AM
Quoting Farmlady09:




safety classes have not lessened the likelihood of children shooting themselves or someone else accidentally! That gun in your house is much more likely to shoot one of your family members then an intruder! My dad is a hunter, he taught us to never ever touch his hunting gear, especially his rifles, but he also kept all ammo far away and never brought a loaded rifle in the house! That's the smart thing to do, teach your children responsibility but take all precautions when it comes to something like weapons in the house. As a parent I do this all the Time in my house, for example when I cook, I always make sure the handle of the pan is never sticking out over the stove, I tell my kids not to touch, I tell my kids to stay away but there is nothing wrong with taking extra precaution.

We are not talking about adults in this post, we are talking about keeping children safe, children are not idiots.
FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Jan. 8, 2013 at 2:03 AM

If some one wants to know, I have no problem telling them that yes, I do own a gun, it is in my home.  

How far would I go?  I would not remove the gun from my home, not for any one.

Farmlady09
by Silver Member on Jan. 8, 2013 at 3:54 AM
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We're seriously considering it at this point, for a lot of reasons. Guns aren't really one of them though ~ as far as we're concerned, the 2nd isn't up for grabs.

Quoting JMmama:

You would probably like Alaska. Plenty of guns, no spiders. And it doesn't get too hot. :-)

Quoting Farmlady09:

DH retired out of Shaw ~ we're a two hour drive from there now.


I'll grant that this state is a cesspool for racism ... and it comes in every color. Sigh. Sumter needs to be walled in and just turned into a prison at this point ~ which is why I'm far away from it and out in the boonies. As for living in other places, um ~ yes. That's what military life means. I was born/raised in PA (DH is from IL). I've lived in 11 states in various cities/towns, and I've been to 14 countries (travel/stationed there).


SC wasn't our first choice for retirement, it was just more convenient at the time. We're very seriously reconsidering at this point. It's too hot to die here, it's humid, there are too many tornadoes, and the flipping mosquitoes scare the hummingbirds. There is that racism you spoke of, and far more meth heads than even the racist ones. Did I mention it's hot? Oh ... spiders. Dang does it have spiders. They don't even have the decency to die during what passes for winter here!


Your little bubble really is cloudy ( and more small minded than the mosquitoes).


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Quoting lga1965:


 Ohhh, Harleyville? LOL. I worked there for a while as a Temp accountant and they are a bunch of racist yahoos. (well, my boss wasn't. He was a good guy. )Is that it? Or Sumter? Lived there too for, three months--  Shaw AFB. Any of the small towns and farmlands  harbor fearful ,prejudiced , small-minded people ( locals)...just like you with your guns and your goats. Good luck with that.


I did mention that I am bored with your lectures. Pay attention.


YOU are the one in the bubble. Have you been out of the USA? Have you met and made friends with people in other countries? Have you expanded your mind enough to see the viewpoints of people who don't live in the backwoods of SC? I bet you haven't. And you missed out.


Don't bother to reply with another Lecture. I have had enough.


Quoting Farmlady09:


Lol ~ I live on the east coast ~ between the state capital and Charleston. Your idea of isolation is as different from mine as your idea of irresponsible and disgusting. I will say that I'm seriously considering a move to Alaska, simply because even if the rest of the lower 48 falls apart, AK isn't going to change a bit. It would be an upgrade from coyotes to grizzlies and wolves (and hopefully an eagle or two!). You go right on living in your rat warren and all the ick that comes with it.


On the other hand, I don't need your permission to live my life as I see fit, so you can save it for someone even more indoctrinated than yourself.


Whether or not you like my lectures (and not liking them because you have no answer that has any logic to rebutt them with), you'll see them every time you insist that gun control will make your little bubble better. I won't ever give you the right to change my world or life because your little bubble is filled with smog and paranoia. The simple fact is that you don't really care about things that are dangerous to more children, only about controlling gun owners. Hypocrite.


Quoting lga1965:


 I am sure I could find a whole bunch of other stories but it would not reach you at all. You only have YOUR Annie Oakley,living in the wilds, viewpoint and everyone else is wrong. YOU live in a bubble in the wilderness where you are  rooted way in the past and can't see the present day and can't see how anyone could live a different life than yours. So isolated and odd.I would really hate to be related to you. Ugh.


I am really bored with your lectures.


I live in the city and I wouldn't have it any other way. You can keep your goats and your guns to defend yourself against "the enemy".....the "bad guys", whoever they are.


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