Is there an epidemic in some parts of the world of men hating women?

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I will tell you what has led me to wonder about this.  Number one, the horrific gang rapes (and other rapes) in India and in some African countries.  Two, The Taliban and other Muslim extremists and their laws which oppress and harm women.  Three, in the U.S. some rap music and the way some men view and treat women, calling them bitches and whores, etc.  Four, domestic violence in the U.S. Five, some Republican Christian Conservative men and their views about women.

I am sure there are other examples and I will edit this if necessary.  What do you think?

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5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women

By: David Wong March 27, 2012 4,628,354 views

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If you're not the type to keep up with ugly, soul-killing political controversies, let me catch you up: A while back, hugely popular political commentator Rush Limbaugh lost a bunch of advertisers because he publicly called a college girl a slut and a prostitute after she suggested that health insurance plans should cover birth control. But he's paid to say outrageous things. If you really want to feel all dead inside, you need to listen to what the regular folk were saying.

For instance, on crazy political message board FreeRepublic.com, posters referred to the girl in the above-referenced story (Sandra Fluke) as a "Nasty, disease-ridden plodding uterus, an utter skank crack-ho filthy whore, a prostitute slutbag juice-receptacle" and a "Sperm-burpin' gutter slut," and said she "... is so encrusted and used, that I had to throw out my flat-panel TV because her appearance on my TV infected it with AIDS, gonorrhea and syphilis." There are many, many more worse comments collected here and here and here.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_19785_5-ways-modern-men-are-trained-to-hate-women.html#ixzz2HsNtPDNq

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I am including this because I found it interesting even though I think the title could just as easily say "Women hate women's bodies." 

I edited this (by shortening it) because this particular post was taking away from the main message of the op.

Men hate woman’s body

Men hate woman’s body. Women learn from men to hate their own bodies. Men and media have been busy for centuries advising women what they should look like.

to read the rest:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/2012/05/30/men-hate-womans-body/

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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/04/23/why_do_they_hate_us

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Why Do So Many Men Hate Women?

There are a lot of men out there who really hate women.  I mean really, really hate them - want them suffering and/or dead hate them  As with a certain class of racist, they prefer to blame every woman for any slight - real or imagined - done to them throughout the entirety of their lives.  I have been appalled lately by the tone and tenor of rhetoric flying around especially as regards the subject of rape.

I posted on this issue - here, and at a variety of other web sites, most of whom were either discussing the Oregon Case, or the anniversary of the Canadian Massacre.  You would think that, universally, rape would be considered wrong - along with all violence against women.  Well - evidently that's not the case.  Many men went beyond mere paternalistic chiding that we woman were too `fixated' on the subject; I read posts overflowing with name-calling, venom spewing gender specific hatred; some of the comments tipping the scale so far into the red, alarms went off.

Why?  Why do you feel this way?  It is perhaps simplistic to assume the men who made those comments are or were rapists and molesters themselves; perhaps they do indeed enjoy inflicting pain on the helpless - the elderly, children, animals.  I don't know.  The only yardstick I have for men like these are those who perpetrated acts of violence towards me; and the single common factor there was cowardice.  The need to molest a child, a young girl - they were not the sort to take on an adult woman out of fear she'd have the strength to repel them.  So what is it motivates these computer nihilists - flinging their offal like so many monkeys - hoping the stink will somehow injure those in its path?

Here is what I am talking about.  The person being ridiculed is me.  The reference is regarding the possible rape of a 17 year old girl.  I was commenting on an article by James Joyner in Outside the Beltway. The poster left his name, Steven, but of course no trackback information.  What he put in italics are snippets of my original response to Mr. Joyner.  I am leaving in the grammatical errors and misspelling that seems to characterize all missive of this sort in place.

Let's break this down a bit shall we?
"My only response to your lauding of what you call a more even approach is this: you obviously have very little empathy for women "
I must have missed you at the "Not In Our Name" anti-rad-fem rally where you decried false accusations that imprison men, subject THEM to rape, and destroy who sections of their lives.
Just because a person says a system must have balance and not cater to ONE gender does not mean the person is without empathy.
But, this is a typical rad-feminist response: put the person asking for balance and fairness on the defensive.
Sorry, didn't you get the memo? The P.C. 90's are over and the USA is more sophisticated as to rape.
She continues in her one sided argument:
" you automatically do what you chide Shakes Sis and Arthur Silber for; concluding the rape was bogus, because the justice system said so."
Ahhh, and when a man is pronounced guilty you are the FIRST one to stand up and say: "just because he was pronounced guilty doesn't mean he did it ... there is a lot of questions to this case" - right?
She seems to conveniently forget women who molest boys in this part:
" You also seem to indicate the girl (girl not woman. No matter how much a certain class of men would like it to be 17 is still a child) would only get a slap on the wrist, so who cares right?"
You mean how Mary Kay LeTourneau was only sent away for SEVEN years after repeatedly sleeping with her 12 year old student?
Or how Debra LaFave was given NO jail time.
Plz DO post links to where you were up in arms about this ....
Showing your blatant sexism is EASY when you wear it on your sleeve.
She continues to make excuses and ignoring the double standards:
"Well, unlike you, I actually did a little research before stating my opinion. The facts of the case are in dispute the childs mother may have had some complicity, and the adult men involved could have been charged with statutory rape, as that is current Oregon law. But they werent only the girl (now 19) paid any price at all. Well I guess that's OK by you; after all, its not like it was anyone you gave a damn about (assuming there are females you give a damn about). I noted many responses just like yours men getting up on their moral high horse decrying what we pesky feminists considered an egregious miscarriage of justice."
Feminists consider justice to be giving one standard for men and another for women. It's no different than "white justice" for blacks back in the day.
You decide guilt, innocence, mitigation of circumstances or lack thereof purely based on genetics. How does that robe and hood fit by the way?
The "men cannot understand" cannard:
" Ah well its not like you will ever have to suffer through the mind-numbing violence of rape; unless of course, through some egregious miscarriage of justice you end up in jail with the wrong cell-mate. But then only true criminals ever get convicted of crimes right? I mean, its not like the justice system is ever wrong?"
The Prison Rape Reform Act of 2003 was enacted due to 10% of all prisoners being raped REPEATEDLY. Consider: there are 2.5-2.7 MILLION men in prison. That's 250K-270K men raped REPEATEDLY - and the feminists are doing ... WHAT exactly to spread the word and stop it?
And as far as the justice system being wrong .. how about men spending 5, 10, 15, or 20 years in prison for rapes they didn't comnmit - being later freed by DNA.
Do the feminists think that the women who have done this should go to jail for the SAME AMOUNT OF TIME!?
Not one of those women who put men in jail is serving a DAY ... never mind that we need a National False Accuser Data Base to track these predators.
The P.C. 90's are over cupcake. Women will start going to JAIL for false accusations. No longer can your shrill cries that espouse one sided sexism be taken at face vaule.
And stomping your dainty little foot no longer works.

to read the rest:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/09/170806/-Why-Do-So-Many-Men-Hate-Women#

[TattoodMommy19]

Yes I think men are being conditioned to hate women and as a mother of daughters, it upsets and scares me

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Quoting TattoodMommy19:

Yes I think men are being conditioned to hate women and as a mother of daughters, it upsets and scares me

Ditto.

[talia-mom]

I find much of this to be bs.

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Quoting talia-mom:

I find much of this to be bs.

Ok, that is why the title is a question and not a statement of fact.  So what do you think is going on?

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Care to elaborate? What makes you say it is bs?

Quoting talia-mom:

I find much of this to be bs.

[ReadWriteLuv]

Ehhh, I don't know. A lot of those things listed that men hate I tend to hate about myself, (wrinkles, increasing abdominal fat), and not because of what any man thinks. I hate them because getting older is a bitch. I do my hair because I like to, I wear make up because I like to, not because of what any man thinks. 

As to the original thought, and the article in the first response post, I agree that there are some cultures that seem to hate women, although I don't know if hate is the correct term. Much of the world has the viewpoint that women are vastly inferior to men, and that we are possessions, not people. Travel to many middle eastern countries and this is obviously evident. In India marriages are still arranged and dowries are paid. "I'll give you 20 cows if you marry my daughter, and in return you will give me half of your banana plants." In some warring countries in Africa female circumscision is still practiced and women are nothing but holes to be raped. As much as this sounds like hate, I really don't think it is, I think it's just a medieval, barbaric attitude. To hate indicates care. I don't think they care, I think women are an objective afterthought.