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Best FB status I have read in a while...........mentions the President and Ted Nugent.

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I asked if I could share this status within the group.  He was kind enough to say he did not mind at all.

I may very well use it as my own status if things continue from a few people on my page.

I absolutely agree with him and could not have said it better myself.

Oh, and he voted third party.  

'Like' if you agree.  lol


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Until tonight I had never un-friended someone. But when someone posts a picture of Adolf Hitler with small children, and the headline comparing him to Barack Obama... I think I'd rather not bother being cyber pals. While I'm on this topic, I don't really care what your politics are. Believe what you want. But, to those folks out there that carry so much hatred for the current president of the united states that you feel the need to compare him to Adolf Hitler, please take a minute to educate yourself. You might want to at least pick your poison. On any given week I see these people calling him a socialist, a dictator, a muslim, an america hater, etc etc. And now I'm hearing more and more that he is coming to take all your guns away. Basically the Ted Nugent school of thinking. Wait, I just said Ted Nugent, school, and thinking, in the same sentence. Sorry. Maybe I can help you to calm down...or at least take your finger off the semi-automatic trigger for a second and take a load off...or at least unload. We have just finished four years with this president, and you are still here, the sky has not fallen. The government hasn't come to take your arsenal away. In a few years when he is done being president things will pretty much be like they are now. Not good, not bad. There are 300 million guns in this country. Those guns..your guns, will probably never go away. And if you absolutely have to compare Obama to Adolf Hitler, do me a favor and un-friend me please. You clearly know very little about history or U.S. politics. Ok, back to cute kittens and endless memes.

by on Jan. 16, 2013 at 2:08 AM
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AdellesMom
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 11:07 PM
You are. That statement isn't in the Constitution.

Quoting Farmlady09:

 


I'm not the one with a lax understanding of the second amendment.


Quoting AdellesMom:

Still being overly sensitive, huh?

No one is name calling. You're being overly sensitive for no damned reason. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Yes, you ARE a hypocrite. The thing about hypocrisy is that you fail to see your own 99% of the time. You're bitching about name calling, you've called names too. You said that I was being immature earlier, you've been very immature in this thread. Ergo, my reason for calling you a hypocrite. You don't practice what you preach.

To me, it seems that you can dish it but you can't take it. Grow up and get over yourself. Again, the world doesn't revolve around you.

Your problem is that you have lax understanding of this amendment. Strong arguments have been made that state that the Founding Fathers did NOT mean for citizens to be able to have military grade weapons in their homes. They're unnecessary to have. Your view is very extremist in nature. But, I don't expect you to see that. I also don't expect you to understand that no one wants to take your "rights" away.



Quoting Farmlady09:


Still calling me names huh? I'm in no way hypocritical. I expect to see the Constitution upheld. Nothing more, nothing less. It's those who want to take away the rights of others (while claiming they have rights) that are hypocritical.



Maybe you can understand this ~ If you don't believe in the right to bear arms, shut up and be a good little victim.



 



Quoting AdellesMom:

I thought you said you were done?

You clearly don't know a damned thing about me. The "people like you" comment is unnecessary.

The ironic thing is that you don't realize how hypocritical and ignorant you are. I guess ignorance is bliss.




Quoting Farmlady09:



 Sorry, people like you deserve nothing but Potterisms. Would you prefer mule fritters?




 




Quoting AdellesMom:

LOL! Once again, it's the pot calling the kettle black. You were the one using phrases like "ponypoo.." You're the one that brought the discussion down to a Pre-K level. Excuse the hell out of me for taking it up a notch. ;-)

I bet you consider yourself a Christian, huh? For shame. I know what the word "infringed" means.

This conversation ended long ago. I can see that your tinfoil hat is too tight. Your brain hasn't breathed in a while. But, you're incapable of taking hints.





Quoting Farmlady09:




 Ok ~ I'm not your 'honey'. Whether you want to file that under name calling or just derogative is your business. In my book it ranks you somewhere around 5th grade level and lowers the entire conversation to a playground argument. I don't care if you like that, nor do I care if you agree with it.





I absolutely see no reason not to rid society of the dregs. Armed robbery, even one where no one is injured, is a pain in the butt, expensive for everyone, and clogs up the court system. Reduce criminals to asking politely if they can have your stuff or facing a mandatory death penalty (without any appeals if there is video to ID the lying sacks of crap) and that's one less violent crime to deal with. Or ... is there a shortage of violent sacks of wasted human skin that I wasn't aware of?





I am in no way bound to compromise, particularly just because 'you' say so. I'm in no way bound to any compromise because some congresscritter has their control freak on and demands it. My only authority is the Constitution ~ and as a citizen I consider it (as the responsibilities of EVERY citizen are laid out) part of my duty to uphold it and protect it from those who would pervert it. Taking away the rights from law abiding people, as well as their means to protect themselves, so that criminals can keep right on harming society is absolutely a perversion of the Constitution. No compromise ... and the second amendment, as written, IS the way to not compromise.





As far as not getting my way, nothing that has been done so far is actually 'something' ... executive orders are a bunch of words on paper that Congress and/or the Supreme Court have the final authority on. Those that usurp the Constitution have been challenged in the past and overturned.





You're the one with the comprehension problem. This isn't a clash between 'prohibition' and 'control'. The Constitution says 'shall not be infringed'. What you need to do is familiarize yourself with the definition of 'infringed' ... and both prohibition and control absolutely infringe. George Washington said it fairly succinctly ~ "A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a statud of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.". Read that a few times until it sinks in.





The fact of the matter is that guns SHOULD be easily accessible. The SAD fact of the matter is that our legal system has been twisted and perverted by lawyers who make more money getting criminals a free pass than seeing to it that they are punished according to their crime, and sufficiently punished so that breaking the law is less attractive than obeying it.





This isn't a matter of me 'wanting to kill people' ~ it's a matter of me refusing to accept being punished instead of the criminals. If you want to roll over and show your belly for that sort of hogwash, be my guest. Some of us still have a spine, and some of us are more than capable of living without prohibitions and control that only those who already care about the law will obey in the first place. No one else 'needs' me to be controlled. I've managed to control myself for 51 years without ever needing so much as a written warning from a traffic cop. I've manage to obey laws and follow codes written for stupid people (by stupid people). I've done very well at that. And, I'll manage to do very well at disobeying an unConstitutional gun grab ~ and 'you' can suck it up and deal with it, because THAT would be a direct violation of my rights that will solve nothing.





It won't keep criminals from getting their hands on guns. It won't stop mass killings. It won't keep any crazy person from taking guns into a school, a mall, or anywhere else and using them to commit a crime. The only purpose any of the proposed laws would serve would be to generate income for the government, confiscate guns (and this proposed ban absolutely includes provisions to confiscate legally purchased guns instead of grandfathering them in), and leave those who do obey the laws without the means to protect themselves. The fact that you're ranting about this, the fact that law enforcement officers are already stating they WILL NOT comply with it, and the fact that military members are stating outright that THEY are not going to comply tells me that I'm 1) not alone with the decisions I've come to, and 2) that those who are in favor of this either have a lot of screws loose or have an end motive that is far less than honorable.





To clarify ~ I'm neither upset nor ranting. I'm actually typing one handed and bottle feeding orphaned babies at the moment. This for me is a no-brainer and my exercising my first amendment rights to just say no. It isn't something I need to 'get over'. It's just something that needs those who understand the Constitution and who pay attention to the power whores to all say no in unison to. The same thing applies to those who want to think that we live in a world where everyone loves each other and produce rosy smelling rainbow feces in spite of the realities. There are some fairly awful members of the human race roaming around, and whether it's one or twenty, I (and everyone else) have a right to the means to defend myself against the scum. The police are NOT there to protect you (that is federal law), they are only there to clean up the mess and occasionally catch one of the scum. In my opinion, those who prefer to see people get robbed, injured, or killed because a homeowner has no gun are aiding and abetting the scum ~ even if they call it 'prohibition' or 'control'. That's something else you won't change my mind about.





Discussing this with you is literally a waste of time and bandwidth. You're convinced that you are right. I'm positive that I am. Have a nice day.





 





Quoting AdellesMom:

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No one has called you any names. Sensitive much? So, you'd kill a person (use the death penalty) if they stabbed someone, and the stab wound was minor? Smh. You just love the thought of killing someone, don't you?

My thought process isn't flawed. Again, I haven't called you any names. Do you not know what the word "immoral" means? You can't throw around words all willy nilly because you feel like it. What I said isn't immoral, that's funny.

My point is that the world doesn't revolve around you. You're going to have to fork over some kind of compromise, whether you like it or not. That's the way life works--everyone doesn't get their way. Here you go again, being hypocritical. In one breath, you say that I sound like an overgrown brat, and in the sentence before that, you say that you won't compromise. It's the pot calling the kettle black. But, you obviously don't see that.

"You sound like an overgrown brat that has never been taught that no means no, and who got your way because you never stopped whining. " >>>>>> You clearly do not know a damned thing about me. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean that I'm an overgrown brat. Just because some random stranger that has a farm says that "no means no" on the internet doesn't mean that I have to take heed. All you have been doing is pouting, whining, and throwing a temper tantrum throughout this thread because YOU did NOT get your way. Who's really the "overgrown brat?" It certainly isn't me.

If you're all grown up, act like it.

Get this through your head: NO ONE wants to take your "rights" away. Not a single soul. The fact that you don't web know the difference between prohibition and control is very telling. By your own admittance, you're for some kind of gun control.

Obama isn't deluded. I love how the anti-Obama camp make all of these erroneous assumptions, and tell these outright lies on Obama and bitch when they're called on their bullshit. You're doing the same thing now.

You need to take the tin foil hat off of your head and let your brain breathe. You've obviously soaked up so much bullshit that you can no longer use logic and reasoning to make a good and valid point.

The fact of the matter is that guns are too easily accessible. It's easier for someone to get a gun than certain kinds of OTC drugs in some states. That's not right. Something needs to be done whether you like it or not.

It's sad that you're so caught up in the "me me me" stage that you can't even understand that your personal feelings do NOT trump the needs of everyone else. Get over yourself.






Quoting Farmlady09:





 If you had read any of my previous posts, you would know that what I want is better and accessible mental health care, and for criminals to be punished (in fact, I'm perfectly fine for a mandatory death penalty for ANY one committing a crime using ANY weapon ... gun, knife, baseball bat, or their finger poked out in their pocket).






Your making up my stance and calling me names based on your own flawed thought process is what is immoral ~ and just plain stupid.






I am all grown up, and I like who I am. I'm very sure of what I want and what I don't want and I'm not willing to compromise one bit of that just because you tell me I have to. I don't ~ and I won't. You sound like an overgrown brat that has never been taught that no means no, and who got your way because you never stopped whining. You read the msm and believe the crap that most people 'want' gun control ... but what I read, along with the people I talk to tells a far different story. There are people who actually understand what the second amendment protects, and know why it is there ~ and they are all saying the same thing I am. They also aren't buying the thought process of repeating a lie until everyone believes it, because they know better.






Get this through your head ~ MY rights are not up for grabs. Not by you. Not by a bunch of elected morons. Not by a power hungry president with delusions of emperor. None of those people have the power to actually regulate or take a single gun from anyone unless individuals voluntarily hand them over. 90 % or better of the guns in the hands of private citizens are NOT registered, and after the past few weeks, there are more of them than ever out there. 89% of those guns will NEVER be used to commit a crime.






Those who are mentally ill or who have choses crime as their career are the problem ~ not guns. Go after those people if you are actually interested in making the world a safer place, but until I actually break a law keep your nose out of not only my vajayjay, but out of my gun cabinet as well. I will not compromise ~ ever. I also don't really care if this topic truly splits the country, if it starts a second civil war, or if the US is irrevocably changed forever because of control freaks who go after everyone BUT the individuals that are actually the problem. If I am completely honest, I truly feel at this point it would be for the best, because there are a lot of individuals who just flat out don't deserve the rights the US Constitution gives. They don't appreciate them, they wouldn't lift one of their spoiled little fingers to fight for them, and they've done squat to earn them. Those individuals can't seem to do much except abuse them and try to deny them to others. 






 






Quoting AdellesMom:

No one is being belligerent towards you. You don't want gun control? You want anyone to be able to own a gun, including the mentally unstable? Your stance is arguably immoral, and maybe even arguably unethical. In some form or fashion, almost everyone wants some form of gun control. There's someone somewhere that you think shouldn't be able to own a gun. I won't believe you if you say otherwise.

What you don't want is prohibition; there's a HUGE difference between control and prohibition

I know that you don't like Obama, and I don't care.

I'm not trying to make you sit up or go away. You just need to get over yourself. You seem to be throwing a tantrum. Grow up.







Quoting Farmlady09:






 No you don't. All you have is a lot of belligerence and attitude. It doesn't impress me a bit.







You want gun control. I don't. You like Obama. I don't. You want to control what others do. I don't.







There is absolutely nothing that you can say that will make me agree with you, make me shut up, or make me go away. Deal with it.






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Farmlady09
by Silver Member on Jan. 19, 2013 at 10:20 AM
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No it isn't. It was made by one of the people who helped write the Constitution (most likely to explain to future generations why the second amendment was part of the Bill of Rights)

Quoting AdellesMom:

You are. That statement isn't in the Constitution.

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