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Would you tell your doctor that....

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...you own guns, if you were asked?    Apparently, doctors, nurses and healthcare professionals are being trained to ask patients if they own guns and if so, do they also have young children or peopel in the househld that are mentally ill.  Now in theory, this sounds like a good idea, but what will they do with that information?  Give it to the police, child services, ????    Will the gun owners be placed on some type of watch list?    I honestly think if my health care provider asked me this question, I would not answer it.  

What you say if youi doctor asked if you had a gun in the house plus young children??

by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM
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Traci_Momof2
by Silver Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM

I would just answer truthfully but then I have never owned a gun and I don't ever plan to own a gun.  {{shrugs}}

jaxTheMomm
by Platinum Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:13 PM
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Am I missing something?  I have not read that there is a proposed change to HIPPA laws, nor that clinicians are now being trained to ask you about guns, and you are somehow required to answer.

There is, and has always been, an exception in which your doctor can contact authorities if she believes you pose a threat to yourself or others due to your mental state.  

alliesaurus
by Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM

what just in their computer systems...or is this some sort of idea that they have to start filing papers or something to the gov't repoting families who admit to gun ownership? I thought medical information was private too?

Quoting kailu1835:

That is because there is no valid reason whatsoever for doctors to ask this question. It's a way of tracking who has guns. I will not be tracked.

Quoting alliesaurus:

Our pediatrician actually had asked us that before well over a year ago.

I asked how that was relevant to the appointment. He then just pushed it off and said, "well it's just one of the questions here" and moved onto the next one.

..it was along with other health information- like does anyone in the home smoke or use tobacco products etc, ...I could see how that might be relevant to my childs health..im not sure how guns in the home affect my childs health. lol.

I honestly didn't have a problem answering, yes we do, i was mostly just confused why he asked and he just moved on instead of giving me a valid answer to why they might need this information.



motha2daDuchess
by Bruja on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:15 PM
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lol, yup, I work in healthcare and I know that saying anything about whether or not you own a gun is not a personal health issue.....

Quoting Imacakebaker:

 HIPAA: Acronym that stands for the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, a US law designed to provide privacy standards to protect patients' medical records and other health information provided to health plans, doctors, hospitals and other health care providers. Developed by the Department of Health and Human Services, these new standards provide patients with access to their medical records and more control over how their personal health information is used and disclosed. They represent a uniform, federal floor of privacy protections for consumers across the country. State laws providing additional protections to consumers are not affected by this new rule. HIPAA took effect on April 14, 2003.

 

Do you understand HIPPA?? 

Quoting motha2daDuchess:

so you dont know what hipaa is ok

Quoting Imacakebaker:

 What I discuss with my doctor is between me and my doctor.  Not me, my doctor and our out of control government!!


Quoting motha2daDuchess:

wtfh...how is guns a hipaa violation


Quoting Imacakebaker:


 Since Obama is now proposing violating HIPPA laws.. no way.



At this point I wouldn't seek help if I was feeling depressed or was having anxiety attacks either.  I do not want to be on list because the President invoked an executive order violating my personal rights.


 

 


lizzyluvsmoe
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Not their business, would not answer.

Mrs.Kubalabuku
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:16 PM
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Yeah, I am worried of what is coming.  MANY people with various mental health issues pose zero threat to anybody at all.  But the way this movement is going, not only would we lose gun privelleges, but through a loophole we'd basically be stripped of medical privacy rights.  Especially veterans, because we are already under a microscope.

I've been on the TDRL for 5 years, officially retired this year, and I just got orders to report to San Antonio to go over my situation again.  Everything I say is reported to the board.  But for now, at least, that is as far as it goes.

Quoting eema.gray:

My husband has PTSD from military service.  I have exactly the same concerns.  He doesn't seem to understand how his rights to medical privacy could, potentially be violated.  I, on the other hand, am terrified.


Quoting Mrs.Kubalabuku:

See, this bothers me.

I have PTSD from my time in the military.  It isn't connected to guns at all.  DH and I love hunting.  When DH is done with his time in the military, we plan to move back to MI, and do a lot of hunting to supplement our diet.  We love game.  I thoroughly enjoy venison.

But if things carry on as they are, will I even be allowed to own a gun to hunt with?  Will DH?

I used to do some bow hunting, but honestly I'm not sold on it.  It can be dangerous to shoot an animal with a bow and not kill it.  If I were to shoot an animal while bow hunting, I always had a gun as backup, in case said animal panicked and charged me, or was in undue pain and suffering.  I was certainly NOT as good as that chick in Hunger Games!

Plus, now the government has total access to my medical information through a loophole in the order.  If I go to a therapist and talk about the things that bother me, Big Brother Government could go taking a look, possibly take things out of context, even.  Why would I go to therapy and talk about what happened to me and the emotions involved when I would be afraid of how some third party with access to my information would react?





WhenInRome
by Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM
When I had both my children the nurses asked if we owned any guns.
I always thought it was odd.
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Presley77
by Member on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM
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None of their biz. Wouldn't answer.
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Imacakebaker
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:18 PM
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 So there is no reason for your doctor to ask, or for the patient to be expected to answer.

Quoting motha2daDuchess:

lol, yup, I work in healthcare and I know that saying anything about whether or not you own a gun is not a personal health issue.....

Quoting Imacakebaker:

 HIPAA: Acronym that stands for the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, a US law designed to provide privacy standards to protect patients' medical records and other health information provided to health plans, doctors, hospitals and other health care providers. Developed by the Department of Health and Human Services, these new standards provide patients with access to their medical records and more control over how their personal health information is used and disclosed. They represent a uniform, federal floor of privacy protections for consumers across the country. State laws providing additional protections to consumers are not affected by this new rule. HIPAA took effect on April 14, 2003.

 

Do you understand HIPPA?? 

Quoting motha2daDuchess:

so you dont know what hipaa is ok

Quoting Imacakebaker:

 What I discuss with my doctor is between me and my doctor.  Not me, my doctor and our out of control government!!


Quoting motha2daDuchess:

wtfh...how is guns a hipaa violation


Quoting Imacakebaker:


 Since Obama is now proposing violating HIPPA laws.. no way.



At this point I wouldn't seek help if I was feeling depressed or was having anxiety attacks either.  I do not want to be on list because the President invoked an executive order violating my personal rights.


 

 


 

somuchlove4U
by on Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM
It's none of his business.
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