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Home of gun Owner outed by Journal News burglarized ***UPDATED*** database removed by Journal News

Two handguns and two pistol permits were stolen from the New City home of a man whose name and address are listed on the website of a local newspaper as possessing gun permits, police said.

The thieves ransacked the house Wednesday night, breaking into two safes on the home's third floor and stealing a third safe. The guns were in the stolen safe, police said.

Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map.

"The burglary is still under investigation, and there are no facts to support this correlation at this time," Clarkstown Sgt. Joanne Fratianni said in a statement. "If the investigation develops further information, it will be released accordingly."

Family members at the burglarized home refused to speak publicly Thursday, and police are keeping reporters off the property on the quiet suburban street.

"At this early point in the investigation, we believe it is a random crime and the home was not targeted," Clarkstown Det. Lt. Charles Delo told News12.

The burglary comes less than a week after a White Plains homeowner -- who also was listed on the Journal News website as having gun permits -- arrived home to find his home burglarized, with jewelry missing and an attempted break-in of his gun safe. The thieves were not successful, and no guns were stolen.

White Plains Police Commissioner David Chong said Monday that it was "premature" to connect that burglary to the website listing but said it was part of the police investigation.

The guns that were stolen in New City included a .45-caliber Colt revolver and a .22-caliber Iver Johnson. Cash, U.S. savings bonds and jewelry were also stolen.

The homeowner's stolen pistol permits were for Rockland and Orange counties.

The Journal News has come under criticism from elected officials and police groups for posting the interactive map Dec. 23 that showed the names and addresses of all legal gun permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties.

The newspaper has not responded to numerous calls for comment.

The head of the White Plains Police Benevolent Association, Robert Riley, has been one of the fiercest critics of the Journal News map, saying it puts the lives of police and ordinary residents in potential danger.

"The Journal News printed a virtual treasure map for criminals," Riley said Monday. "It lets the bad guys know who is vulnerable, due to not having a gun permit, and where to go if they wanted a gun."



with Sarah Armaghan


UPDATE...

New York newspaper removes gun permit database from website after outcry
Published January 18, 2013
Associated Press
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. – A suburban New York newspaper that outraged gun owners by posting the names and addresses of residents with handgun permits removed the information from its website Friday.
The Journal News took down the data just three days after the state enacted a gun control law that included privacy provisions for permit holders.
The provisions were a reaction to interactive maps the newspaper published on LoHud.com that pinpointed thousands of permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties.
Gun rights activists had immediately complained that permit owners' privacy was being violated. They said the map could guide burglars to their homes while police groups claimed the map could lead ex-convicts to the officers who had put them away.
The addresses of some Journal News staffers were posted online, and threats were called in to the newspaper's offices. The newspaper hired armed guards in response.
Janet Hasson, president and publisher of The Journal News Media Group, said in an emailed statement, "While the new law does not require us to remove the data, we believe that doing so complies with its spirit."
She said the maps had been viewed nearly 1.2 million times since they were published Dec. 23. The newspaper sought the records under the state Freedom of Information Law after the Dec. 14 elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., where a gunman who had killed his mother at home killed 20 first-graders and six educators and then committed suicide.
The maps remained online late Friday but could no longer be manipulated to find names and addresses.
State Sen. Greg Ball, the most vocal opponent of the posting, said, "Thank God The Journal News has finally realized the error in their judgment and done the right thing. ... I am proud to have passed legislation keeping The Journal News from doing this ever again."
On Tuesday, as part of a gun control bill, the state Legislature passed and Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed new regulations that give permit holders several ways to opt out of the public record.
Applicants can ask to be exempted because they are police officers or served on criminal-case juries or are victims of domestic violence. They also can just say they might be subjected to harassment.
Hasson said Friday, "One of our core missions as a newspaper is to empower our readers with as much information as possible on the critical issues they face, and guns have certainly become a top issue since the massacre in nearby Newtown, Conn."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/18/new-york-newspaper-removes-gun-permit-database-from-website-after-outcry/#ixzz2IRezYVti

....I am only responsible for what I say,NOT for what you understand.....
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 5:55 AM
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LoveMyBoyK
by Ruby Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 7:18 AM
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Noboby said the sky is falling, what a ridiculous over dramatization of opinions that do not match your own.


Quoting UpSheRises:

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!



Grab your guns...we have to run and tell the king!


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chane_L
by New Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 7:40 AM
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the town where my folks live (the next county over) it's law that every home have a gun & ammo.

KENNESAW, Ga - Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city over the past two decades to a law that requires residents to have a gun in the house.
 
In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition.
 
Whaaaaaa....O.o
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 7:45 AM
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Quoting turtle68:

 this is exactly what I thought would happen....everyone on here seemed to think it was a map for those who DIDNT have guns.


You have to understand thieves vs home invaders ....and most drug riddled theives will rob easy marks.  Guns are worth easy money...wait for homeowner to leave and bam, easy cash.  They arent interested in those who have nothing.


Not to mention that this may ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with a list and was just the victim of random burglers





If it was random, why did it happen 2 times in a span of a week?
turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Jan. 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM

 

Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting turtle68:

 this is exactly what I thought would happen....everyone on here seemed to think it was a map for those who DIDNT have guns.


You have to understand thieves vs home invaders ....and most drug riddled theives will rob easy marks.  Guns are worth easy money...wait for homeowner to leave and bam, easy cash.  They arent interested in those who have nothing.


Not to mention that this may ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with a list and was just the victim of random burglers





If it was random, why did it happen 2 times in a span of a week?

 I said it MAY of been random....why do whole streets get targeted for burglaries?  One of the homes Jewellery was stolen and the gun safe attempted to be broken in.  sounds more like thieves that stumbled across the safe and tried to break it....not targeting the safe to steal the gun.

Whaaaaaa....O.o
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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Quoting turtle68:




Ok, I can see your point. I read it as it was the same house.
pansyprincess
by Silver Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Are you for real?  2 house robberies in a week make it not random? Do you know anything at all about this area?  Maybe 2 robberies a week is normal in this area.  Maybe there is a string of robberies happening right now.  About a year ago there were like 30 houses robbed in my town and the 3 surrounding towns.  No gun list was posted.  It was a ring of thieves.  Nothing more, nothing less. 

Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting turtle68:

 this is exactly what I thought would happen....everyone on here seemed to think it was a map for those who DIDNT have guns.


You have to understand thieves vs home invaders ....and most drug riddled theives will rob easy marks.  Guns are worth easy money...wait for homeowner to leave and bam, easy cash.  They arent interested in those who have nothing.


Not to mention that this may ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with a list and was just the victim of random burglers





If it was random, why did it happen 2 times in a span of a week?


 

Whaaaaaa....O.o
by on Jan. 18, 2013 at 8:56 AM
Quoting pansyprincess:




You obviously didn't read the whole thread.
JoshRachelsMAMA
by JRM on Jan. 18, 2013 at 8:56 AM
New City and White Plains are in two different counties and 46 miles apart separated by the Hudson River.

Quoting pansyprincess:

Are you for real?  2 house robberies in a week make it not random? Do you know anything at all about this area?  Maybe 2 robberies a week is normal in this area.  Maybe there is a string of robberies happening right now.  About a year ago there were like 30 houses robbed in my town and the 3 surrounding towns.  No gun list was posted.  It was a ring of thieves.  Nothing more, nothing less. 


Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:


Quoting turtle68:


 this is exactly what I thought would happen....everyone on here seemed to think it was a map for those who DIDNT have guns.



You have to understand thieves vs home invaders ....and most drug riddled theives will rob easy marks.  Guns are worth easy money...wait for homeowner to leave and bam, easy cash.  They arent interested in those who have nothing.



Not to mention that this may ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with a list and was just the victim of random burglers





If it was random, why did it happen 2 times in a span of a week?



 

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pansyprincess
by Silver Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM

 So if a house was robbed in my town, and another 50 miles away, there needs to be a connection?  It isn't possible that it was just a random robbery?  I just think it's a reach to say that two robberies happened in the span of a week 50 miles apart, and there is a connection.


Quoting JoshRachelsMAMA:

New City and White Plains are in two different counties and 46 miles apart separated by the Hudson River.

Quoting pansyprincess:

Are you for real?  2 house robberies in a week make it not random? Do you know anything at all about this area?  Maybe 2 robberies a week is normal in this area.  Maybe there is a string of robberies happening right now.  About a year ago there were like 30 houses robbed in my town and the 3 surrounding towns.  No gun list was posted.  It was a ring of thieves.  Nothing more, nothing less. 


Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:


Quoting turtle68:


 this is exactly what I thought would happen....everyone on here seemed to think it was a map for those who DIDNT have guns.



You have to understand thieves vs home invaders ....and most drug riddled theives will rob easy marks.  Guns are worth easy money...wait for homeowner to leave and bam, easy cash.  They arent interested in those who have nothing.



Not to mention that this may ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with a list and was just the victim of random burglers





If it was random, why did it happen 2 times in a span of a week?

 


 


 

CDMelty
by Member on Jan. 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Wait. I thought having guns was supposed to KEEP you from getting burglarized. To scare the bad guys away. I just cant imagine how owning guns could actually cause crime.

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