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Pro-gun activists plan rallies to oppose Obama's proposals

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(Reuters) - Angered and afraid that President Barack Obama's proposals to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are a ploy to strip them of their right to own weapons, pro-gun activists plan to rally across America on Saturday.

Using Facebook and other social media, a group called Guns Across America plans rallies in 49 states, mostly at state capitols and all at "high noon" local time.

"There is no question in my mind that if the federal government could get away with it they would keep passing gun laws until the Second Amendment has gone," said Eric Reed, an airline pilot in Texas who launched the group. "We as a people have to stand together on this."

The contentious debate over American gun rights was revived in December when a gunman used an assault weapon to kill 20 young school children in Newtown, Connecticut.

In the wake of the mass killing, Obama and gun control advocates have begun a push for an assault weapon ban. Gun control advocates say American civilians have no justifiable need for assault weapons or high-capacity magazines.

The reaction has been fierce from gun supporters such as the National Rifle Association, who have long argued that their right to bear arms is enshrined in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Reed, 38, said he had an epiphany on December 14 after hearing President Obama talk about gun control on the day of the massacre at Sandy Hook.

"I thought if all American gun owners and freedom lovers could come out on the day, it would send a strong message to Washington," he said.

Reed will attend an event in Austin, Texas, whose speakers will include the head of the Waco Tea Party. He said the only state with no organizer for a rally is Alaska.

As of Friday afternoon, the national Facebook page for Guns Across America listed more than 18,000 people who have confirmed they would attend events.

Don Dobyns, 56, a former police office who is organizing an event outside Colorado's capitol building in Denver, said the last estimate he had was that 1,500 people would attend on Saturday.

"But now I don't have a clue because this has exploded," he said. "I can't even keep up with the emails and phone calls."

"A lot of people are afraid that this is nothing more than a power grab by the government."

In Idaho, Russell Thruston, 27, said that when he spotted the Guns Across America Facebook page two weeks ago, he "watched it for a few days."

"When no one volunteered to organize an event in Boise, I thought 'why not me?,'" said Thruston, an electrician, who added that 384 people so far had confirmed on the state event's Facebook page that they would attend. "Gun control is a very slippery slope that we need to avoid."

While Guns Across America has the hallmarks of a grassroots effort, Reed and other organizers say they are unpaid volunteers, a Washington-based Republican consulting firm called Political Media has launched Gun Appreciation Day.

The Washington-based group also uses social media, and its Facebook page includes a number of statewide events, plus rallies at smaller venues including the Montgomery County courthouse in Norristown, Pennsylvania.

(Reporting By Nick Carey; Editing by Neil Stempleman)

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by on Jan. 19, 2013 at 8:22 AM
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Whaaaaaa....O.o
by on Jan. 20, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Quoting candlegal:





Honestly, I haven't heard of them. What I do know (and I am literally surrounded by military as I am in San Antonio. Most of my friends and my husbands friends are military. And dh works on base as DOD) is that many many military members are wary of some of the actions this president has taken.
candlegal
by Judy on Jan. 20, 2013 at 10:37 AM

I am in SA also. It is a pretty quiet organization.   Most of the military, police, Sheriffs, etc. that belong do not advertise it.

Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting candlegal:





Honestly, I haven't heard of them. What I do know (and I am literally surrounded by military as I am in San Antonio. Most of my friends and my husbands friends are military. And dh works on base as DOD) is that many many military members are wary of some of the actions this president has taken.


lga1965
by Ruby Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 11:55 AM

 You didn't quote a specific post....it could have been directed at anyone so I assumed you were bashing me...as you usually like to do.

Quoting candlegal:

Funny cause I wasn't responding to you on this one.  If you are going to talk about somone laughing and you and putting you down, at least be on the right post.

Quoting lga1965:

 I have gone to the Oath Keeprs' Website. I have researched news items about them. They might be members of all the military branches, and others such as police,etc.etc. but they are not the average members. They are radical and they are seem to say thay want to piss on the Government and the president.They always have been radical and have no respect for anyone. They are disgusting.  I have a feeling that most military members are embarassed by this organization.

I have to laugh when you talk about me and pretend I "don't know anything" when I have been researching and reading for many years,. probably longer than most of you have been alive.  But of it boosts your ego and self esteem by putting me down then I am glad I have been able to help you.

Quoting candlegal:

I would be willing to bet she has never heard of the oathkeepers and doesn't know what they stand for or the vow they have taken.

Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting samurai_chica:




If the order is unlawful, they do not have to follow it. Their first priority is to follow the constitution. If the order the president gives goes against the constitution they do not, and a great number of them will not follow.

From my former marine husband.


 


 







"I've long known rage was a life saver. I learned it from my mentor Rush Limbaugh, because every time you look at him you gotta ask, 'How is he still alive?'" -- Stephen Colbert
candlegal
by Judy on Jan. 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM

LOL, yes because you are miss innocent, aren't you.   I bet you would say you have never bashed me.    ROFL

Quoting lga1965:

 You didn't quote a specific post....it could have been directed at anyone so I assumed you were bashing me...as you usually like to do.

Quoting candlegal:

Funny cause I wasn't responding to you on this one.  If you are going to talk about somone laughing and you and putting you down, at least be on the right post.

Quoting lga1965:

 I have gone to the Oath Keeprs' Website. I have researched news items about them. They might be members of all the military branches, and others such as police,etc.etc. but they are not the average members. They are radical and they are seem to say thay want to piss on the Government and the president.They always have been radical and have no respect for anyone. They are disgusting.  I have a feeling that most military members are embarassed by this organization.

I have to laugh when you talk about me and pretend I "don't know anything" when I have been researching and reading for many years,. probably longer than most of you have been alive.  But of it boosts your ego and self esteem by putting me down then I am glad I have been able to help you.

Quoting candlegal:

I would be willing to bet she has never heard of the oathkeepers and doesn't know what they stand for or the vow they have taken.

Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting samurai_chica:




If the order is unlawful, they do not have to follow it. Their first priority is to follow the constitution. If the order the president gives goes against the constitution they do not, and a great number of them will not follow.

From my former marine husband.


 


 


samurai_chica
by Bronze Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 11:59 AM

 I don't care what your former Marine husband says.

Military discipline and effectiveness is built on the foundation of obedience to orders. Recruits are taught to obey, immediately and without question, orders from their superiors, right from day-one of boot camp.

Military members who fail to obey the lawful orders of their superiors risk serious consequences.  

Sure...i'm betting they can refuse pillaging & killing innocent people. But, if there were to be crazy militia that rise up against the government & choose to fight AGAINST the military...i friggen HIGHLY doubt many of active duty members would sit back & say "This isn't right...we should not be fighting against tyrannical militia who are trying to overthrow us"

PULEASE!!!! People join the military because they WANT to. They are not going to go against orders to allow a militia to rise up against them....that is ridiculous!!! They would consider the militia terrorists just like Tim McVeigh. That terrorist might be considered a hero to some crazy militia assholes...but the truth is, he is a terrorist. And so are any other militia groups who want to over throw the government. Our military & government will NEVER sit back & allow whack jobs like him & other militia attempt to take them over. Anyone who believes it can happen are not very smart & have no logical sense.

Sure...like the military will ever allow a bunch of Tim McVeighs to just throw them over....right...and a bunch of active military folks are not going to follow orders & they are going to allow these loons to try & destroy the government. right...this makes total sense...lol..

I'm sorry to say...but your lovely military will never sit back & allow militia to over throw them. No matter how much you or any one else wished they would.


Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting samurai_chica:




If the order is unlawful, they do not have to follow it. Their first priority is to follow the constitution. If the order the president gives goes against the constitution they do not, and a great number of them will not follow.

From my former marine husband.


 

samurai_chica
by Bronze Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM
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I know exactly who they are. They are a bunch of crazy bigots & it's a laughable joke of an organization.

They will never compare to the size of our active military. They are freaks with guns...probably the types of folks who shouldn't have guns in the first place.

 

Quoting candlegal:

I would be willing to bet she has never heard of the oathkeepers and doesn't know what they stand for or the vow they have taken.

Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting samurai_chica:




If the order is unlawful, they do not have to follow it. Their first priority is to follow the constitution. If the order the president gives goes against the constitution they do not, and a great number of them will not follow.

From my former marine husband.


 

 

lga1965
by Ruby Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 12:07 PM

 Of course I like to bash narrow minded, Bible thumping, self satisfied but undereducated Conservative Christians like you.   big smile mini I never said I was "Miss Innocent". LOL.

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"Dr. King would be pro-gun just as surely as Jesus would be pro-nail." -- Stephen Colbert

Quoting candlegal:

LOL, yes because you are miss innocent, aren't you.   I bet you would say you have never bashed me.    ROFL

Quoting lga1965:

 You didn't quote a specific post....it could have been directed at anyone so I assumed you were bashing me...as you usually like to do.

Quoting candlegal:

Funny cause I wasn't responding to you on this one.  If you are going to talk about somone laughing and you and putting you down, at least be on the right post.

Quoting lga1965:

 I have gone to the Oath Keeprs' Website. I have researched news items about them. They might be members of all the military branches, and others such as police,etc.etc. but they are not the average members. They are radical and they are seem to say thay want to piss on the Government and the president.They always have been radical and have no respect for anyone. They are disgusting.  I have a feeling that most military members are embarassed by this organization.

I have to laugh when you talk about me and pretend I "don't know anything" when I have been researching and reading for many years,. probably longer than most of you have been alive.  But of it boosts your ego and self esteem by putting me down then I am glad I have been able to help you.

Quoting candlegal:

I would be willing to bet she has never heard of the oathkeepers and doesn't know what they stand for or the vow they have taken.

Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting samurai_chica:




If the order is unlawful, they do not have to follow it. Their first priority is to follow the constitution. If the order the president gives goes against the constitution they do not, and a great number of them will not follow.

From my former marine husband.


 


 


 

Whaaaaaa....O.o
by on Jan. 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM
Quoting samurai_chica:




You obviously have trouble reading. I said if the order is UNCONSTITUTIONAL aka unlawful.
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