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Court rules child protection laws apply to unborn babies

Posted by on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:09 AM
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A preborn baby is a human being. That's the ruling from one of the few courts to recognize that as a legal fact.

The case involves a woman who smoked meth three days before her baby was born at 25 weeks. Her son lived for only a few minutes. Amanda Kimbrough appealed her conviction to the Alabama Supreme Court, arguing that state law involving drugs and children only applies to those already born.

Jennifer Mason with Personhood USA describes the court's response to that argument.

Mason, Jennifer (Personhood USA)"[The court ruled] essentially that the unborn child is a person and that the laws of chemical endangerment to a child that's already born also applied to preborn children," she tells OneNewsNow.

"And this was an amazing decision where they just really effusively went on about the personhood of the child and spoke negatively about Roe v. Wade. It's really a huge victory."

Mason contends that other states need to take a second look at their laws in light of what the Alabama court has stated.

"In other states, you can chemically endanger your child in the womb with no consequences at all and, as the Alabama Supreme Court said, a lot of our laws are starting to recognize that's not right. Women should not be able to do that."

The laws, she adds, are designed to keep unborn children safe. An exception, though, would be Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion.

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Donna6503
by Platinum Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:14 AM
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Well; since we are just 3 days away from the 40th anniversary of Roe v Wade, I am sure we are going to have some lively debates here in CM.
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turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:20 AM
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 geez....where is this? Texas?

AdrianneHill
by Platinum Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:21 AM
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If the fetus had miscarried at twenty three weeks, the state would not have been able to press charges. In SC, the cut off to baby occurs at twenty four weeks and any dangerous activity (not just drugs or even illegal) can be used to arrest and punish pregnant women for the good of the fetus and the detriment of the constitution
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candlegal
by Judy on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:23 AM


Alabama Supreme Court Recognizes Unborn as Persons in Landmark Ruling

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2012/05/08/nr-felon-moms-in-alaba…

Montgomery, AL – The Alabama Supreme Court has ruled that a chemical endangerment statute must protect children who have not been born yet. The strongly worded ruling is the most important affirmation of the personhood of the pre-born child since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.

The case was appealed to the AL Supreme Court by Amanda Kimbrough, a mother who admits that she smoked meth three days before her baby was born at 25 weeks. Tragically, baby Timmy lived for only a few minutes. The autopsy showed that the baby died from methamphetamine exposure.

“The Alabama Supreme Court has dealt a massive blow to the constitutional fraud of Roe v. Wade by recognizing that the preborn child is a person,” explained Personhood USA Legal Analyst Gualberto Garcia Jones, J.D. “This is yet another confirmation that the fight for personhood is targeting the Achilles’ heel of the abortion industry and Roe v. Wade.”

Kimbrough’s attorney had previously debated Personhood Alabama founding member Attorney Ben DuPre on CNN. Kimbrough’s attorney claimed in the interview that their case hinged upon the fact that the law regarding methamphetamine exposure to children did not apply to unborn children, only to born children.

The New York Times covered Kimbrough’s case in in April, when she was found guilty of a Class A felony. The article quoted assistant district attorney Angela Hulsey as stating, “She caused the death of another person, a person that will never have the chance to go to school, go to the prom, get married, have children of their own. You’re dealing with the most innocent of victims.”

The Alabama Supreme Court agreed with Hulsey, stating in their ruling that, “The decision of this Court today is in keeping with the widespread legal recognition that unborn children are persons with rights that should be protected by law.”

“The Alabama Supreme Court ruling is a monumental victory for the personhood rights of preborn children,” affirmed Personhood Alabama member Dan Becker. “Personhood Alabama is committed to continuing our fight for the rights of every baby in Alabama.”

Personhood Alabama is a chapter of Personhood USA, an organization established to seek protection for the personhood rights of every human being, born and unborn.. In April of 2012, Personhood Alabama delivered a copy of Ray Comfort’s groundbreaking film “180” to every Alabama legislator.

Quoting turtle68:

 geez....where is this? Texas?


turtle68
by Mahinaarangi on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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 oh...Texas the sequel

Quoting candlegal:

 

Alabama Supreme Court Recognizes Unborn as Persons in Landmark Ruling

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2012/05/08/nr-felon-moms-in-alabama.cnn

Montgomery, AL – The Alabama Supreme Court has ruled that a chemical endangerment statute must protect children who have not been born yet. The strongly worded ruling is the most important affirmation of the personhood of the pre-born child since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.

The case was appealed to the AL Supreme Court by Amanda Kimbrough, a mother who admits that she smoked meth three days before her baby was born at 25 weeks. Tragically, baby Timmy lived for only a few minutes. The autopsy showed that the baby died from methamphetamine exposure.

“The Alabama Supreme Court has dealt a massive blow to the constitutional fraud of Roe v. Wade by recognizing that the preborn child is a person,” explained Personhood USA Legal Analyst Gualberto Garcia Jones, J.D. “This is yet another confirmation that the fight for personhood is targeting the Achilles’ heel of the abortion industry and Roe v. Wade.”

Kimbrough’s attorney had previously debated Personhood Alabama founding member Attorney Ben DuPre on CNN. Kimbrough’s attorney claimed in the interview that their case hinged upon the fact that the law regarding methamphetamine exposure to children did not apply to unborn children, only to born children.

The New York Times covered Kimbrough’s case in in April, when she was found guilty of a Class A felony. The article quoted assistant district attorney Angela Hulsey as stating, “She caused the death of another person, a person that will never have the chance to go to school, go to the prom, get married, have children of their own. You’re dealing with the most innocent of victims.”

The Alabama Supreme Court agreed with Hulsey, stating in their ruling that, “The decision of this Court today is in keeping with the widespread legal recognition that unborn children are persons with rights that should be protected by law.”

“The Alabama Supreme Court ruling is a monumental victory for the personhood rights of preborn children,” affirmed Personhood Alabama member Dan Becker. “Personhood Alabama is committed to continuing our fight for the rights of every baby in Alabama.”

Personhood Alabama is a chapter of Personhood USA, an organization established to seek protection for the personhood rights of every human being, born and unborn.. In April of 2012, Personhood Alabama delivered a copy of Ray Comfort’s groundbreaking film “180” to every Alabama legislator.

Quoting turtle68:

 geez....where is this? Texas?


 

edelweiss23
by on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:28 AM
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That is slightly scary.
So in effect, I could have been prosecuted because I gave birth at 28 weeks. Even though I wasn't at fault(abusive ex husband pushed me and I fell).

It could be said by the right person, that I didn't protect my baby enough.
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Aslen
by Silver Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:29 AM
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All the more reason to stay the fuck out of alabama!
This is just sick. Sad and sick....
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Aslen
by Silver Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:30 AM
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So much for seperation of church and state!


Quoting turtle68:

 oh...Texas the sequel


Quoting candlegal:


 



Alabama Supreme Court Recognizes Unborn as Persons in Landmark Ruling








http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2012/05/08/nr-felon-moms-in-alabama.cnn


Montgomery, AL – The Alabama Supreme Court has ruled that a chemical endangerment statute must protect children who have not been born yet. The strongly worded ruling is the most important affirmation of the personhood of the pre-born child since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.


The case was appealed to the AL Supreme Court by Amanda Kimbrough, a mother who admits that she smoked meth three days before her baby was born at 25 weeks. Tragically, baby Timmy lived for only a few minutes. The autopsy showed that the baby died from methamphetamine exposure.


“The Alabama Supreme Court has dealt a massive blow to the constitutional fraud of Roe v. Wade by recognizing that the preborn child is a person,” explained Personhood USA Legal Analyst Gualberto Garcia Jones, J.D. “This is yet another confirmation that the fight for personhood is targeting the Achilles’ heel of the abortion industry and Roe v. Wade.”

Kimbrough’s attorney had previously debated Personhood Alabama founding member Attorney Ben DuPre on CNN. Kimbrough’s attorney claimed in the interview that their case hinged upon the fact that the law regarding methamphetamine exposure to children did not apply to unborn children, only to born children.

The New York Times covered Kimbrough’s case in in April, when she was found guilty of a Class A felony. The article quoted assistant district attorney Angela Hulsey as stating, “She caused the death of another person, a person that will never have the chance to go to school, go to the prom, get married, have children of their own. You’re dealing with the most innocent of victims.”


The Alabama Supreme Court agreed with Hulsey, stating in their ruling that, “The decision of this Court today is in keeping with the widespread legal recognition that unborn children are persons with rights that should be protected by law.”


“The Alabama Supreme Court ruling is a monumental victory for the personhood rights of preborn children,” affirmed Personhood Alabama member Dan Becker. “Personhood Alabama is committed to continuing our fight for the rights of every baby in Alabama.”


Personhood Alabama is a chapter of Personhood USA, an organization established to seek protection for the personhood rights of every human being, born and unborn.. In April of 2012, Personhood Alabama delivered a copy of Ray Comfort’s groundbreaking film “180” to every Alabama legislator.


Quoting turtle68:


 geez....where is this? Texas?




 


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Donna6503
by Platinum Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:31 AM
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Cand, you must remember states like Oklahoma and Mississippi had voted (not a court ruling) to not declare a fetus as a person (or an unborn person) Those states are very conservative states, this ruling goes far beyond what most Americans feel to be acceptable.

Using an "unborn person" as a means to overturn "Roe v Wade" will not be accepted by the American people. While there is a dislike to Roe v Wade by the American people (if only about half the people even know what Roe v Wade happens to be in life) this judicial activism (unborn personhood) by the pro life side will only end up hurting their cause.


Quoting candlegal:



Alabama Supreme Court Recognizes Unborn as Persons in Landmark Ruling
















http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2012/05/08/nr-felon-moms-in-alaba…



Montgomery, AL – The Alabama Supreme Court has ruled that a chemical
endangerment statute must protect children who have not been born yet.
The strongly worded ruling is the most important affirmation of the
personhood of the pre-born child since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.



The case was appealed to the AL Supreme Court by Amanda Kimbrough, a
mother who admits that she smoked meth three days before her baby was
born at 25 weeks. Tragically, baby Timmy lived for only a few minutes.
The autopsy showed that the baby died from methamphetamine exposure.



“The Alabama Supreme Court has dealt a massive blow to the
constitutional fraud of Roe v. Wade by recognizing that the preborn
child is a person,” explained Personhood USA
Legal Analyst Gualberto Garcia Jones, J.D. “This is yet another
confirmation that the fight for personhood is targeting the Achilles’
heel of the abortion industry and Roe v. Wade.”



Kimbrough’s attorney had previously debated Personhood Alabama founding member Attorney Ben DuPre on CNN.
Kimbrough’s attorney claimed in the interview that their case hinged
upon the fact that the law regarding methamphetamine exposure to
children did not apply to unborn children, only to born children.

The New York Times covered Kimbrough’s case in in April, when she
was found guilty of a Class A felony. The article quoted assistant
district attorney Angela Hulsey as stating, “She caused the death of
another person, a person that will never have the chance to go to
school, go to the prom, get married, have children of their own. You’re
dealing with the most innocent of victims.”



The Alabama Supreme Court agreed with Hulsey, stating in their
ruling that, “The decision of this Court today is in keeping with the
widespread legal recognition that unborn children are persons with
rights that should be protected by law.”



“The Alabama Supreme Court ruling is a monumental victory for the
personhood rights of preborn children,” affirmed Personhood Alabama
member Dan Becker. “Personhood Alabama is committed to continuing our
fight for the rights of every baby in Alabama.”



Personhood Alabama is a chapter of Personhood USA,
an organization established to seek protection for the personhood
rights of every human being, born and unborn.. In April of 2012,
Personhood Alabama delivered a copy of Ray Comfort’s groundbreaking film
“180” to every Alabama legislator.






Quoting turtle68:

 geez....where is this? Texas?



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Debmomto2girls
by Platinum Member on Jan. 20, 2013 at 8:32 AM
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Not surprising it was Alabama... One of the most backward states in this country

Quoting turtle68:

 oh...Texas the sequel


Quoting candlegal:


 



Alabama Supreme Court Recognizes Unborn as Persons in Landmark Ruling








http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2012/05/08/nr-felon-moms-in-alabama.cnn


Montgomery, AL – The Alabama Supreme Court has ruled that a chemical endangerment statute must protect children who have not been born yet. The strongly worded ruling is the most important affirmation of the personhood of the pre-born child since the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.


The case was appealed to the AL Supreme Court by Amanda Kimbrough, a mother who admits that she smoked meth three days before her baby was born at 25 weeks. Tragically, baby Timmy lived for only a few minutes. The autopsy showed that the baby died from methamphetamine exposure.


“The Alabama Supreme Court has dealt a massive blow to the constitutional fraud of Roe v. Wade by recognizing that the preborn child is a person,” explained Personhood USA Legal Analyst Gualberto Garcia Jones, J.D. “This is yet another confirmation that the fight for personhood is targeting the Achilles’ heel of the abortion industry and Roe v. Wade.”

Kimbrough’s attorney had previously debated Personhood Alabama founding member Attorney Ben DuPre on CNN. Kimbrough’s attorney claimed in the interview that their case hinged upon the fact that the law regarding methamphetamine exposure to children did not apply to unborn children, only to born children.

The New York Times covered Kimbrough’s case in in April, when she was found guilty of a Class A felony. The article quoted assistant district attorney Angela Hulsey as stating, “She caused the death of another person, a person that will never have the chance to go to school, go to the prom, get married, have children of their own. You’re dealing with the most innocent of victims.”


The Alabama Supreme Court agreed with Hulsey, stating in their ruling that, “The decision of this Court today is in keeping with the widespread legal recognition that unborn children are persons with rights that should be protected by law.”


“The Alabama Supreme Court ruling is a monumental victory for the personhood rights of preborn children,” affirmed Personhood Alabama member Dan Becker. “Personhood Alabama is committed to continuing our fight for the rights of every baby in Alabama.”


Personhood Alabama is a chapter of Personhood USA, an organization established to seek protection for the personhood rights of every human being, born and unborn.. In April of 2012, Personhood Alabama delivered a copy of Ray Comfort’s groundbreaking film “180” to every Alabama legislator.


Quoting turtle68:


 geez....where is this? Texas?




 

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