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Is cellulose the latest food additive?


Wood pulp (cellulose) makes ice cream creamier, at least according to a recent newspaper article that's created quite a buzz. I thought I'd provide a bit of background on that surprising claim and give you something to chew on.

The wood pulp the article refers to is cellulose. Cellulose is the basic building block of the cell walls of all plants and is considered a complex carbohydrate. Various forms of cellulose are generally recognized as safe (GRAS) food substances according to the Food and Drug Administration.

Small cellulose particles impart a smooth consistency, mouthfeel and stickiness to products such as salad dressings, barbecue sauces and, yes, ice cream. Longer fiber lengths provide structure and a firmer texture to baked goods. Cellulose also helps capture and retain moisture and keeps products from seeming dry.

We're seeing more foods with added fiber, such as cellulose, because most people aren't eating enough foods that are naturally high in fiber — namely vegetables, fruits and whole grains. Manufacturers are also adding cellulose because it means they can use less fat and sugar without losing the desired mouthfeel or moistness. The rising cost of flour, sugar and oil may be another reason for this trend.

How do you feel about the idea of eating cellulose? It may be GRAS, but wouldn't you rather eat fresh fruits and vegetables to get the fiber and the other essential nutrients, vitamins and minerals they provide?


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Who's putting wood in your food?

These 10 big restaurant chains and food companies are just some of those that add cellulose to their products. And it may actually be good for you. Let's hope so.

By TheStreet

Are you getting what you pay for on your plate? A recent lawsuit against Taco Bell raised questions about the quality of food that Americans eat.

Chief among the general concerns is the use of cellulose (read: wood pulp), an additive used in everything from crackers and ice creams to puddings and baked goods. Cellulose is virgin wood pulp that's processed into cellulose gum, powdered cellulose and other materials. It's also used in plastics, detergents, pet litter and asphalt.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration considers cellulose safe for human consumption and sets no limit on the amount that can be used in food products. The Department of Agriculture, which regulates meats, has set a content limit of 3.5% on the use of cellulose.

Cellulose adds fiber to food, helping people who don't get the recommended daily intake of fiber in their diets. It also extends the shelf life of processed foods. Plus, cellulose's water-absorbing properties can mimic fat, allowing consumers to reduce their fat intake. Perhaps most important to food processors is that cellulose is a relatively cheap ingredient.

TheStreet has rounded up a list of popular foods that use cellulose. It's not an exhaustive list, so consumers should read food labels carefully.

http://money.msn.com/shopping-deals/who-is-putting-wood-in-your-food-thestreet.aspx?cp-documentid=6792745

by on Jan. 20, 2013 at 6:30 PM
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LntLckrsCmQut
by on Jan. 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

There is a difference between cellulose that is naturally found in fruits and veggies and they cellulose that is added to food that comes from wood pulp.

Quoting lancet98:

A little wierd.

Most cellulose comes from wood because most cellulose is used to make paper products.

Cellulose can come from any green plant and only a very limited amount is allowed to be added to food, though in any plant produt you can find cellulose, so it's in most green growing things.  In any green growing thing you eat, you're eating cellulose.   It makes the plant have a structure, it's in plant cell walls.

 I see this as totally a non issue.

It IS better if you eat fruits and vegetables than processed food to which a tiny amount of cellulose has been added, in an effort to make it contain more fiber, since most people don't eat ENOUGH fruits and vegetables.  Fruits and vegetables are good for you.   Eat more of them.   They have vitamins and minerals and are good to eat.

In the past 'people ate more vegetables', but mostly because they ate a lot of potatoes.   By eating more vegetables, it actually means that we should be eating the really healthy vegetables - dark leafy green vegetables like spinach, kale, greens, dark green lettuces.   ALL of them having lots of cellulose in them, LOL.

And yes, humans have some ability to digest cellulose - other critters have more ability to digest it.


lancet98
by Silver Member on Jan. 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM
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What's the difference?   It doesn't matter what it's made from, cellulose is cellulose. 

Cellulose is a chemical compound, it doesn't matter if you take it out of wood or out of spinach stems, it's STILL cellulose.   Same as if you had a rock with gold in it, you take the gold out, and you have gold.   Doesn't matter if it's in a rock or a pickle, it's gold.

The DIFFERENCE is that it's simply healthier to eat a tomato and an orange, than eat the same amount of ice cream that has the cellulose in it, or the muffins, or the flavored pudding, or anything else that adds cellulose to its mix, which ALSO contains umpty grams of saturated fat and sugar and calories.  

A person can eat enough ice cream or pudding or other processed food in a brief sitting  to use up his entire saturated fat or calorie allowance for the entire day - hell, for an entire WEEK.  

Frankly, you're better off eating an icecream that has guar gun or cellulose in it (or both) to give it that 'feel' than if it's saturated fat giving it that 'feel'!  

But it would be FAR better to be eating oranges, and apples, and spinach, and kale, and just not be eating ANY ice cream.   When I've eaten lower fat ice creams, they STILL make me crave more sweet and more food with that 'silky feel' - and I'm better off eating fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, and not even ever using those other foods as 'treats'.

Cellulose, remember, is added in VERY tiny percentages to any product it's added to, but you're STILL eating ice cream instead of an orange, and ice cream has a lot more calories and fat and sugar in it than an orange.

Look.   I don't care if you 'believe' that cellulose is 'bad' because it comes from wood rather than from a cucumber.   That's your business, and that's an emotional type of belief that won't yield to facts.

What I DO care about is the idea that eating ice cream WITHOUT cellulose added would be 'healthy' or even 'healthier', and that I think, is a delusion.   Same thing with sugar - whether it comes from honey or turbinado sugar or whatever, it's still sugar and one needs to very much limit consumption of it.

You could catch a wild auroch and milk it into an oak firkin and then set it free to run the plains of Mongolia, and walk barefoot to your wood heated home and make it into ice cream with ice you cut from your pond last year, you'd STILL be eating a sh** load of fat and sugar. 

I know a lot of people who 'don't eat processed foods' and are WAY overweight and have a diet full of saturated fats and sugars, and they believe that since they are 'natural' they can stuff themselves with it.   We're all getting old now and the ones who have done that, are dropping like flies.   Obesity and its illnesses don't care where your cellulose came from, they care how high a fat and sugar diet you have and how many extra pounds have been toting around over the years.

Quoting LntLckrsCmQut:

There is a difference between cellulose that is naturally found in fruits and veggies and they cellulose that is added to food that comes from wood pulp.

Quoting lancet98:

A little wierd.

Most cellulose comes from wood because most cellulose is used to make paper products.

Cellulose can come from any green plant and only a very limited amount is allowed to be added to food, though in any plant produt you can find cellulose, so it's in most green growing things.  In any green growing thing you eat, you're eating cellulose.   It makes the plant have a structure, it's in plant cell walls.

 I see this as totally a non issue.

It IS better if you eat fruits and vegetables than processed food to which a tiny amount of cellulose has been added, in an effort to make it contain more fiber, since most people don't eat ENOUGH fruits and vegetables.  Fruits and vegetables are good for you.   Eat more of them.   They have vitamins and minerals and are good to eat.

In the past 'people ate more vegetables', but mostly because they ate a lot of potatoes.   By eating more vegetables, it actually means that we should be eating the really healthy vegetables - dark leafy green vegetables like spinach, kale, greens, dark green lettuces.   ALL of them having lots of cellulose in them, LOL.

And yes, humans have some ability to digest cellulose - other critters have more ability to digest it.


 

 

LntLckrsCmQut
by on Jan. 21, 2013 at 4:43 PM

It does matter. Sorry you don't see it.

Quoting lancet98:


What's the difference?   It doesn't matter what it's made from, cellulose is cellulose. 

Cellulose is a chemical compound, it doesn't matter if you take it out of wood or out of spinach stems, it's STILL cellulose.   Same as if you had a rock with gold in it, you take the gold out, and you have gold.   Doesn't matter if it's in a rock or a pickle, it's gold.

The DIFFERENCE is that it's simply healthier to eat a tomato and an orange, than eat the same amount of ice cream that has the cellulose in it, or the muffins, or the flavored pudding, or anything else that adds cellulose to its mix, which ALSO contains umpty grams of saturated fat and sugar and calories.  

A person can eat enough ice cream or pudding or other processed food in a brief sitting  to use up his entire saturated fat or calorie allowance for the entire day - hell, for an entire WEEK.  

Frankly, you're better off eating an icecream that has guar gun or cellulose in it (or both) to give it that 'feel' than if it's saturated fat giving it that 'feel'!  

But it would be FAR better to be eating oranges, and apples, and spinach, and kale, and just not be eating ANY ice cream.   When I've eaten lower fat ice creams, they STILL make me crave more sweet and more food with that 'silky feel' - and I'm better off eating fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, and not even ever using those other foods as 'treats'.

Cellulose, remember, is added in VERY tiny percentages to any product it's added to, but you're STILL eating ice cream instead of an orange, and ice cream has a lot more calories and fat and sugar in it than an orange.

Look.   I don't care if you 'believe' that cellulose is 'bad' because it comes from wood rather than from a cucumber.   That's your business, and that's an emotional type of belief that won't yield to facts.

What I DO care about is the idea that eating ice cream WITHOUT cellulose added would be 'healthy' or even 'healthier', and that I think, is a delusion.   Same thing with sugar - whether it comes from honey or turbinado sugar or whatever, it's still sugar and one needs to very much limit consumption of it.

You could catch a wild auroch and milk it into an oak firkin and then set it free to run the plains of Mongolia, and walk barefoot to your wood heated home and make it into ice cream with ice you cut from your pond last year, you'd STILL be eating a sh** load of fat and sugar. 

I know a lot of people who 'don't eat processed foods' and are WAY overweight and have a diet full of saturated fats and sugars, and they believe that since they are 'natural' they can stuff themselves with it.   We're all getting old now and the ones who have done that, are dropping like flies.   Obesity and its illnesses don't care where your cellulose came from, they care how high a fat and sugar diet you have and how many extra pounds have been toting around over the years.

Quoting LntLckrsCmQut:

There is a difference between cellulose that is naturally found in fruits and veggies and they cellulose that is added to food that comes from wood pulp.

Quoting lancet98:

A little wierd.

Most cellulose comes from wood because most cellulose is used to make paper products.

Cellulose can come from any green plant and only a very limited amount is allowed to be added to food, though in any plant produt you can find cellulose, so it's in most green growing things.  In any green growing thing you eat, you're eating cellulose.   It makes the plant have a structure, it's in plant cell walls.

 I see this as totally a non issue.

It IS better if you eat fruits and vegetables than processed food to which a tiny amount of cellulose has been added, in an effort to make it contain more fiber, since most people don't eat ENOUGH fruits and vegetables.  Fruits and vegetables are good for you.   Eat more of them.   They have vitamins and minerals and are good to eat.

In the past 'people ate more vegetables', but mostly because they ate a lot of potatoes.   By eating more vegetables, it actually means that we should be eating the really healthy vegetables - dark leafy green vegetables like spinach, kale, greens, dark green lettuces.   ALL of them having lots of cellulose in them, LOL.

And yes, humans have some ability to digest cellulose - other critters have more ability to digest it.





stormcris
by Christy on Jan. 21, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Many people cannot break down a lot of plant fibers so this doesn't really help.

SWasson
by Bronze Member on Jan. 21, 2013 at 5:42 PM

If you find cellulose disturbing, then you should never buy any processed foods. Cellulose is about as innocuous as can be for a food additive.

erika9009
by Bronze Member on Jan. 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM
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I now know why I keep wanting to chew on that Oak tree at the park.  

frogbender
by Captain Underpants on Jan. 21, 2013 at 6:06 PM


Thank goodness for common sense.

Quoting lancet98:


What's the difference?   It doesn't matter what it's made from, cellulose is cellulose. 

Cellulose is a chemical compound, it doesn't matter if you take it out of wood or out of spinach stems, it's STILL cellulose.   Same as if you had a rock with gold in it, you take the gold out, and you have gold.   Doesn't matter if it's in a rock or a pickle, it's gold.

The DIFFERENCE is that it's simply healthier to eat a tomato and an orange, than eat the same amount of ice cream that has the cellulose in it, or the muffins, or the flavored pudding, or anything else that adds cellulose to its mix, which ALSO contains umpty grams of saturated fat and sugar and calories.  

A person can eat enough ice cream or pudding or other processed food in a brief sitting  to use up his entire saturated fat or calorie allowance for the entire day - hell, for an entire WEEK.  

Frankly, you're better off eating an icecream that has guar gun or cellulose in it (or both) to give it that 'feel' than if it's saturated fat giving it that 'feel'!  

But it would be FAR better to be eating oranges, and apples, and spinach, and kale, and just not be eating ANY ice cream.   When I've eaten lower fat ice creams, they STILL make me crave more sweet and more food with that 'silky feel' - and I'm better off eating fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, and not even ever using those other foods as 'treats'.

Cellulose, remember, is added in VERY tiny percentages to any product it's added to, but you're STILL eating ice cream instead of an orange, and ice cream has a lot more calories and fat and sugar in it than an orange.

Look.   I don't care if you 'believe' that cellulose is 'bad' because it comes from wood rather than from a cucumber.   That's your business, and that's an emotional type of belief that won't yield to facts.

What I DO care about is the idea that eating ice cream WITHOUT cellulose added would be 'healthy' or even 'healthier', and that I think, is a delusion.   Same thing with sugar - whether it comes from honey or turbinado sugar or whatever, it's still sugar and one needs to very much limit consumption of it.

You could catch a wild auroch and milk it into an oak firkin and then set it free to run the plains of Mongolia, and walk barefoot to your wood heated home and make it into ice cream with ice you cut from your pond last year, you'd STILL be eating a sh** load of fat and sugar. 

I know a lot of people who 'don't eat processed foods' and are WAY overweight and have a diet full of saturated fats and sugars, and they believe that since they are 'natural' they can stuff themselves with it.   We're all getting old now and the ones who have done that, are dropping like flies.   Obesity and its illnesses don't care where your cellulose came from, they care how high a fat and sugar diet you have and how many extra pounds have been toting around over the years.

Quoting LntLckrsCmQut:

There is a difference between cellulose that is naturally found in fruits and veggies and they cellulose that is added to food that comes from wood pulp.

Quoting lancet98:

A little wierd.

Most cellulose comes from wood because most cellulose is used to make paper products.

Cellulose can come from any green plant and only a very limited amount is allowed to be added to food, though in any plant produt you can find cellulose, so it's in most green growing things.  In any green growing thing you eat, you're eating cellulose.   It makes the plant have a structure, it's in plant cell walls.

 I see this as totally a non issue.

It IS better if you eat fruits and vegetables than processed food to which a tiny amount of cellulose has been added, in an effort to make it contain more fiber, since most people don't eat ENOUGH fruits and vegetables.  Fruits and vegetables are good for you.   Eat more of them.   They have vitamins and minerals and are good to eat.

In the past 'people ate more vegetables', but mostly because they ate a lot of potatoes.   By eating more vegetables, it actually means that we should be eating the really healthy vegetables - dark leafy green vegetables like spinach, kale, greens, dark green lettuces.   ALL of them having lots of cellulose in them, LOL.

And yes, humans have some ability to digest cellulose - other critters have more ability to digest it.






frogbender
by Captain Underpants on Jan. 21, 2013 at 6:07 PM


It is good for people who don't eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and are lacking indigestable fiber in their diets. Indigestable fiber is healthy for the digestive tract.

Quoting stormcris:

Many people cannot break down a lot of plant fibers so this doesn't really help.



stormcris
by Christy on Jan. 21, 2013 at 6:32 PM

If you have no digestive issues perhaps.

Insoluble fiber is a bulking agent and it can cause megacolon for some and soluble fiber does the opposite, irritating the bowel and causing diarrhea. Perhaps I should have said process rather than break down. There are a lot of people with digestive problems such as IBS which it can affect.

This further could really cause a problem for people who need to rest their bowels.

Quoting frogbender:


It is good for people who don't eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and are lacking indigestable fiber in their diets. Indigestable fiber is healthy for the digestive tract.

Quoting stormcris:

Many people cannot break down a lot of plant fibers so this doesn't really help.




krysstizzle
by on Jan. 21, 2013 at 6:41 PM
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*nom nom nom*

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