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Despite Obama’s Divisive Speech, Gays and Lesbians Are ‘Treated Like Anyone Under The Law’

Posted by on Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:32 AM
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This year's presidential inauguration was an opportunity for President Obama to unite Americans who have recently been through a particularly difficult and heated election season and set us on a better path, one that would uplift all Americans.

Sadly, the President squandered this opportunity when he chose to proclaim that our journey as a people would not be complete until gay and lesbian people are "treated like anyone under the law," a not-so-veiled reference to his politically-motivated decision to endorse the radical movement to redefine marriage, one of our most sacred institutions.

First of all, gay and lesbian people are already treated equally under the law. They have the same civil rights as everyone else. They're free to live as they choose and love whom they wish.

What they don't have is the right to redefine marriage for society.

Indeed, six federal courts (including the Supreme Court in 1972) have rejected the radical idea that there is a Constitutional right to same-sex marriage under the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause.

Marriage as it has been defined throughout history - as the union of one man and one woman - is a great cause of unity for any culture, including our own. We know all too well what happens to society when marriage breaks down and government interferes with the rights of men and women to come together and form healthy, lifelong marriages.  The President's obsession with redefining marriage has prevented him in his first term from doing anything of substance to support and advance the institution of marriage for the vast majority of Americans. That is where his emphasis should be.

Americans remain united in support of the commonsense definition of marriage. A poll taken after the most recent elections showed that 60% of Americans agree that marriage is between one man and one woman. Twenty percent of Americans in that same poll said marriage was one of their top three issues. The vast majority of states define marriage as the union of husband and wife and the vast majority of Americans who have been given a chance to vote on the question have supported that definition as well.

This spring and summer the Supreme Court will take up Proposition 8 and the Defense of Marriage Act. Proposition 8, which Obama opposed, defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman, was approved in 2008 by over seven million California voters. The Defense of Marriage Act was passed overwhelmingly by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.

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TCgirlatheart
by TC on Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:17 AM
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Civil rights as divisive. That's a new one.
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mandaday
by Silver Member on Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:33 AM
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Marriage is not a " sacred union", it is a contract between people to form a family unit. It's only been in fairly recent history that it had anything much to do with love. Marriage has been changing and evolving all through history. This is just the next step. Since marriage in our current culture is more above choosing to form a family unit with the person you love, why shouldn't that be extended to everyone?
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rfurlongg
by on Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:52 AM
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Well that is not a biased poll at all. *cough, cough*

Times changes. Remember Dredd Scott? Because the Supreme court decided something, does not mean we cannot be a dynamic people and grow beyond mistakes made in the past.

The author claims the GLBT community is treated equally under the law. They are not. Period. That is not debatable. Just because he wants it to be so, does not make it so.

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Clairwil
by Ruby Member on Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:53 AM
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Quoting candlegal:

What they don't have is the right to redefine marriage for society.

'they' aren't.

The members of society, the vast majority of whom are heterosexual, are the ones 'redefining' marriage.

Not for the first time.   Many people can still remember when marriage got 'redefined' to allow black people to marry white people.


GLWerth
by Gina on Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:54 AM
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Marriage is a social construct and as such, it changes and evolves as society does.

Before 1967, the same arguments that are made today against gay people marrying were made against interracial marriage.

It would ruin the sanctity of marriage! OH NOES! And yet, marriage still exists, even though interracial couples marry. The world did not come to a screeching halt.

I'm in Iowa, gay couples have been marrying for several years and strangely, this has had ZERO impact on my marriage to my husband. No one has forced me to divorce him and marry a woman, no one has forced him to marry a man, the only difference is that the nice women I know in the next town over are now married.

They are also foster parents and have taken in seven kids from the foster care system, older kids who wouldn't have had a chance at a family otherwise. Yeah, that's some evil gay conspiracy, taking care of kids.

People need to just get over their fear of people who are different. Different is not always bad, sometimes it is just different.

KelliansMom
by Bronze Member on Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:59 AM
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Change is so hard for some huh. Many fought this hard to keep interracial couples from getting married arguing many of the same things that they are arguing now about gay marriage. It didn't stop those couples from winning the right to get married and it wont stop gay couples from getting that right either. 

cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:10 AM
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 I laughed so hard I nearly spit out my tea when I read the title of this post. Really? They're treated just like anyone else under the law? The law allows me to marry whom I choose. The law allows my spouse to receive  healthcare benefits from my employer. The law allows my husband into the hospital to see me if I'm dying. Shall I go on? Because I could. For pages.

Those things aren't true for gays in committed relationships.

canadianmom1974
by Gold Member on Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:12 AM
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cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:12 AM
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Once again, the voice of reason.

God I love you. You should run for president.

Quoting GLWerth:

Marriage is a social construct and as such, it changes and evolves as society does.

Before 1967, the same arguments that are made today against gay people marrying were made against interracial marriage.

It would ruin the sanctity of marriage! OH NOES! And yet, marriage still exists, even though interracial couples marry. The world did not come to a screeching halt.

I'm in Iowa, gay couples have been marrying for several years and strangely, this has had ZERO impact on my marriage to my husband. No one has forced me to divorce him and marry a woman, no one has forced him to marry a man, the only difference is that the nice women I know in the next town over are now married.

They are also foster parents and have taken in seven kids from the foster care system, older kids who wouldn't have had a chance at a family otherwise. Yeah, that's some evil gay conspiracy, taking care of kids.

People need to just get over their fear of people who are different. Different is not always bad, sometimes it is just different.

 

afwifeandmommy3
by Bronze Member on Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:14 AM
I agree with some of it
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