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'Stupidity' led to Texas shooting, sheriff says

 

'Stupidity' led to Texas shooting, sheriff says

By Matt Smith, CNN
updated 5:46 AM EST, Thu January 24, 2013
Lone Star College freshman Sheketa Taylor embraces her father, Judson Gimblin, after a shooting on the suburban Houston campus Tuesday, January 22. Three people were left wounded on Lone Star's North Harris campus, authorities said, after an apparent argument between two men. Lone Star College freshman Sheketa Taylor embraces her father, Judson Gimblin, after a shooting on the suburban Houston campus Tuesday, January 22. Three people were left wounded on Lone Star's North Harris campus, authorities said, after an apparent argument between two men.
Harris County sheriff's officers work the scene after the January 22 shooting.Harris County sheriff's officers work the scene after the January 22 shooting.
A sheriff's deputy stands guard at the entrance to Lone Star College's North Harris campus on January 22. The campus was put on lockdown following reports of the shooting. A sheriff's deputy stands guard at the entrance to Lone Star College's North Harris campus on January 22. The campus was put on lockdown following reports of the shooting.
Students talk on cell phones and wait after evacuating the campus.Students talk on cell phones and wait after evacuating the campus.
Sheriff's deputies and Houston police stand on the street in front of the campus.Sheriff's deputies and Houston police stand on the street in front of the campus.
Law enforcement secure the area.Law enforcement secure the area.
Students evacuate the area with a sheriff's deputy near the college's North Harris campus. There were more than 10,000 students on the campus at the time of the shooting, spokesman Jed Young said.Students evacuate the area with a sheriff's deputy near the college's North Harris campus. There were more than 10,000 students on the campus at the time of the shooting, spokesman Jed Young said.
A mother joins her son as he evacuates the campus on foot. A mother joins her son as he evacuates the campus on foot.
Law enforcement secures the area near Lone Star College. Authorities were searching for a suspect in a wooded area next to the campus, a law enforcement source said.Law enforcement secures the area near Lone Star College. Authorities were searching for a suspect in a wooded area next to the campus, a law enforcement source said.
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Sheriff blasts "adolescent confrontation" and "stupidity" in Tuesday shooting
  • A 22-year-old man has been charged with aggravated assault
  • Investigators are still looking for the gun used in the shooting

(CNN) -- The exact subject of the argument that led to a shooting at a Houston-area community college hadn't been determined Wednesday, but Harris County Sheriff Adrian Garcia said he had a general idea of the cause.

"Idiocy. Stupidity," Garcia told reporters. "We had individuals who did not care about putting other people in harm's way. It was a ridiculous, adolescent confrontation that occurred. But if we can make an example out of anyone, we will."

Pressed for details, Garcia added, "We're still clearing that up. But a confrontation occurred, and somebody thought, in their peanut-sized brain, that maybe a firearm on a campus would be the way to settle it."

Garcia's blunt assessment came a day after three people were wounded at Lone Star College. One of those shot, 22-year-old Carlton Berry, has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault and remains under guard at a hospital, Garcia said. The other two were still hospitalized as well, he said.

Investigators are still trying to determine whether a second suspect was involved, Garcia said. And he appealed to the public for help in trying to find the weapon used in Tuesday's shooting, which sent hundreds of students running from the suburban campus and swarms of sheriff's deputies, police and firefighters rushing to the scene.

The shooting happened roughly a month after the massacre at a Newtown, Connecticut, elementary school that left 26 dead, including 20 children ages 6 and 7. Garcia said that the situation in Houston "was nothing like" the Newtown killings.

by on Jan. 24, 2013 at 8:04 AM
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yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:11 AM
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Quoting NWP:

There are things I really love about Texas...The food, the mix of cultures, the independant spirit, the rich history, my relatives and friends....

But I have to agree that currently the wackos are steering the boat...But remember this is the state that gave us Ann Richards, one of the best female politicians to date IMO and Molly Ivins too!

That said, allowing college students to carry weapons on campus is a terrible idea. We forget these young adults are still very much learning how to be mature and handle life away from Mom and Dad. This is a very good example of that.


Quoting Bella_Madre:

Meanwhile Texas presses for a law that makes guns on campus perfectly legal.....have I mentioned that I really hate this state?....


 I liked Ann Richard's too....and I am conservative.  It was her personality I liked.  I remember her keynote address at the Democratic Nat Cov...."poor George, he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth"....just struck me as hilarious.  I like how she was with her previous alcohol addiction.  Nice lady imo.

 

Sisteract
by Whoopie on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM
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The problem, it seems, is that all the gun enthusiasts do not understand and respect each other.... gun owner/carrier shooting gun owner/carrier- connect the dots.

Having more gun owners and carriers will decrease gun violence how?

Common sense.

Quoting talia-mom:


You clearly do not understand people who conceal carry.

Quoting Bella_Madre:

I didn't say it would change the shooting. But I think it's clear that the LAST thing we need is even more idiots on campuses with guns.

Quoting talia-mom:

How would the guns being legal have changed the shooting?   It was already illegal to carry them on the campus.



Quoting Bella_Madre:

Meanwhile Texas presses for a law that makes guns on campus perfectly legal.....have I mentioned that I really hate this state?....







yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM
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 I like this sheriff!  Too bad he can't decide the punshiment for the peanut brain.

Allowing guns on campus is not going to result in a wild west shootout.  If this logic were true those legal carrying would be having shootouts everywhere else...and they aren't.

There is a lot of open carry here in Wyoming...it is even legal in our legislative buildings.  There aren't a bunch of shootouts...and we kind of are the wild west.

 

Sisteract
by Whoopie on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM

IMO, if everyone had a weapon, crime might take a momentary dip, but with time, just like with any other change, behaviors would return and deaths d/t shooting would escalate. Complacency...it's a human condition.

yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:19 AM

 

Quoting Sisteract:

The problem, it seems, is that all the gun enthusiasts do not understand and respect each other.... gun owner/carrier shooting gun owner/carrier- connect the dots.

Having more gun owners and carriers will decrease gun violence how?

Common sense.

Quoting talia-mom:

 

You clearly do not understand people who conceal carry.

Quoting Bella_Madre:

I didn't say it would change the shooting. But I think it's clear that the LAST thing we need is even more idiots on campuses with guns.

Quoting talia-mom:

How would the guns being legal have changed the shooting?   It was already illegal to carry them on the campus.

 


Quoting Bella_Madre:

Meanwhile Texas presses for a law that makes guns on campus perfectly legal.....have I mentioned that I really hate this state?....

 


 

 

 


 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&sid=cp112313am&r_n=hr277.112&dbname=cp112&&sel=TOC_10311

 

II. EFFECTS OF CONCEALED CARRY ON PUBLIC SAFETY

While there is disagreement over the benefits of carrying concealed weapons, many believe that robust concealed carry laws ultimately deter crime by making criminal acts much more risky and costly for potential law breakers. Statistics show a connection between concealed carry laws and a decrease in violent crime rates. The National Rifle Association estimates, based on data from the FBI's Annual Uniform Crime Report, that `right-to-carry' states (i.e., those that widely allow concealed carry) have 22 percent lower total violent crime rates, 30 percent lower murder rates, 46 percent lower robbery rates, and 12 percent lower aggravated assault rates, as compared to the rest of the country. 4

[Footnote] A study of the effect of concealed carry laws on crime rates, published in 1997, estimated that `[w]hen state concealed handgun laws went into effect in a county, murders fell by 7.65 percent, and rapes and aggravated assaults fell by 5 and 7 percent.' 5

[Footnote] The general conclusion of this study, that concealed weapons deter crime, has been replicated and confirmed by other scholars. 6

[Footnote]

 

pamelax3
by Gold Member on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM
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Legal gun owners do have the up most respect for other people and their weapons! This story is about an illegal gun and person who did not go thru the proper channels to obtain a gun..

So how is it that we will stop illegal purchase of guns and stop the criminals from getting them? that should be the question. We will never stop the illegal purchase of guns by criminals and any one who has enough money to buy them  


Quoting Sisteract:

The problem, it seems, is that all the gun enthusiasts do not understand and respect each other.... gun owner/carrier shooting gun owner/carrier- connect the dots.

Having more gun owners and carriers will decrease gun violence how?

Common sense.

Quoting talia-mom:

 

You clearly do not understand people who conceal carry.

Quoting Bella_Madre:

I didn't say it would change the shooting. But I think it's clear that the LAST thing we need is even more idiots on campuses with guns.

Quoting talia-mom:

How would the guns being legal have changed the shooting?   It was already illegal to carry them on the campus.

 


Quoting Bella_Madre:

Meanwhile Texas presses for a law that makes guns on campus perfectly legal.....have I mentioned that I really hate this state?....

 


 

 

 



 

pamelax3
by Gold Member on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM

 It happends every where not just in Texas


Quoting LauraKW:

I see a lot of that in Texas.

Quoting romalove:

Stupid and armed, my favorite combination.


 

pamelax3
by Gold Member on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:27 AM

 If you hate the state so much move.. Texas is not the only state looking at passing gun laws where it is legal to carry weapons on college campuses.


Quoting Bella_Madre:

Meanwhile Texas presses for a law that makes guns on campus perfectly legal.....have I mentioned that I really hate this state?....


 

lga1965
by on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:28 AM
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LOL. Yup. Seems to be the latest thing....

Quoting romalove:

Stupid and armed, my favorite combination.

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NWP
by guerrilla girl on Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM
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But that is because there are only 8 people that live in the state of Wyoming< Some inflated serious hyperbole here:)

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I like this sheriff!  Too bad he can't decide the punshiment for the peanut brain.

Allowing guns on campus is not going to result in a wild west shootout.  If this logic were true those legal carrying would be having shootouts everywhere else...and they aren't.

There is a lot of open carry here in Wyoming...it is even legal in our legislative buildings.  There aren't a bunch of shootouts...and we kind of are the wild west.

 


North West Passage

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