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WTF is wrong with people? I don't give two shits what your stance is on gun control. You DO NOT heckle a grieving father. Common decency apparently isn't so common anymore.

 

Father of Newtown Victim Interrupted by Shouts of "Second Amendment!"

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Posted Tuesday, Jan. 29, 2013, at 10:00 AM ET

 

 
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Thousands of people participate in the March on Washington for Gun Control on Jan. 26, 2013 in Washington, D.C.

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Connecticut state lawmakers held a public hearing in Hartford yesterday to discuss gun control and safety in the wake of last month's tragic elementary school shooting in Newtown that killed 20 students and six staff members. Some 1,500-odd members of the public turned up to be heard at the task force meeting, and by most accounts things stayed relatively civil as those on both sides of the issue made their case. Then this happened according to the Connecticut Post:

 

"The Second Amendment!" was shouted a couple of times by as many as a dozen gun enthusiasts in the meeting room as Neil Heslin, holding a photo of his slain 6-year-old son, Jesse Lewis, asked why Bushmaster assault-style weapons are allowed to be sold in the state.
"There are a lot of things that should be changed to prevent what happened," said Heslin, who said he grew up using guns and was undisturbed by the interruption of his testimony.
"That wasn't just a killing, it was a massacre," said Heslin, who recalled dropping off his son at Sandy Hook Elementary school shortly before Lanza opened fire. "I just hope some good can come out of this."

The gun debate has raged all over the country in the wake of the Newtown tragedy, although perhaps no where louder than in the state in which it unfolded. Connecticut lawmakers have already considered a wide-range of gun-related legislation in the weeks since the shooting, including proposals that would enact a 50-percent tax on ammunition, expand the state's existing assault-weapons ban and outlaw large-capacity magazines.

 

As the Wall Street Journal explained yesterday, Monday's hearing was also the site of Connecticut-based gunmakers "most robust public statements" since the shooting, with company officials pushing back against those calling for stricter gun control. "As we've seen the number of guns in society have increased, yet the violent crime rate has decreased," Joseph Bartozzi, senior VP of general counsel of Mossberg & Sons Inc., told lawmakers. "To say it's all about guns I think simply is a disservice."

 

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by on Jan. 29, 2013 at 1:21 PM
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AngeLnChainZ
by Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 1:59 PM
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It has nothing to do with guns being worth more than children.. It's the fact that I shouldn't lose my rights as an American because a few bad apples cause mayhem in America..

Quoting GLWerth:

It saddens me that some women in this group, ostensibly mothers, think it is OK (even laudable) to heckle a grieving father. 

They don't even seem to have the smallest bit of sympathy for his loss, but boy, do they LOVE their guns.

In my world, children are worth more than guns.


        

soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM
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I disagree I think that question needs to be answered EVERY SINGLE TIME someone says it. Why do you have a right to own a weapon? Because the 2nd says so. Why do you have the right to own a Ar-15? Because the 2nd says so. Do you really need and "assault style" weapon to hunt? 1. every gun can be an assault weapon there is no such thing as an "assault style" weapon 2. the 2nd says nothing about hunting 3. because the 2nd says so. Over and over and over again until the anti-gun crowd GETS IT.



Quoting autodidact:


It was rhetorical question and it wasn't their place. They're classless assholes.

Quoting soonergirl980:

He wasn't heckled he asked a question and they answered. , asked why Bushmaster assault-style weapons are allowed to be sold in the state?





lga1965
by on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM
I know. But she was insinuating that I put that picture in my reply just for effect and I explained that it was with the article. I resent it when she tries to twist facts.

Quoting cjsbmom:

 Iga, she knows what kind of gun it is. She is one of those folks who thinks you're not allowed to have an opinion on gun rights unless you know everything there is to know about guns. My dad was an intelligence officer during the Vietnam War. I know a lot about weapons. I learned to shoot when I was 9. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with her over who knows more about guns, because quite frankly, it doesn't matter who knows more about them. I understand the Second Amendment, and I have a right to voice my opinion on the matter.


Quoting lga1965:



 The picture is PART OF THE ARTICLE, dingbat. Click on the LINK and you will find out.


Geeeeze, do I have to do everythng for you? Explain everything?Its all there for you, but youre too lazy to CLICK?


......wow....


Quoting Lizard_Lina:

You purposely put a pic of this gun up to mislead people on what it is. So I ask you again, do you know? Do you know what guns it is like?



Quoting lga1965:


 The article gives you all of the information...read it. CAn this gun be used for hunting? If not, then nobody needs it.



Quoting Lizard_Lina:

Please, do tell what kind of gun it is, how many bullets it holds, and at what rate they are released.... Or are ypu just going for the "oh it looks scary like a machine gun" effect





Quoting lga1965:



 Here's another article about this. Please notice the gun that the woman is holding. Does the average citizen NEED one of them? NO. Hell no. If they think they do, then they probably have some serious mental disturbances. Really.





http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-parents-urge-enforcement-gun-laws-171101155.html





 





Firearms Training Unit Detective Barbara J. Mattson of the Connecticut State Police holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook School shooting, for a demonstration during a hearing of a legislative subcommittee reviewing gun laws, at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford, Conn., Monday, Jan. 28, 2013. The parents of children killed in the Newtown school shooting called for better enforcement of gun laws Monday at the legislative hearing. (AP Photo/Jessica Hill)





 



 


 

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Lizard_Lina
by Silver Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:03 PM
I don't care if she knows the ons and outs of every single weapon on the market, but she's sitting here saying anyone who thinks they have the right to own an ar is mentally ill, and then doesn't even know anything about it. She's making statements based on a picture and not information. That's irritating.

And yes iga, ar's can and are used for hunting.


Quoting cjsbmom:

 Iga, she knows what kind of gun it is. She is one of those folks who thinks you're not allowed to have an opinion on gun rights unless you know everything there is to know about guns. My dad was an intelligence officer during the Vietnam War. I know a lot about weapons. I learned to shoot when I was 9. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with her over who knows more about guns, because quite frankly, it doesn't matter who knows more about them. I understand the Second Amendment, and I have a right to voice my opinion on the matter.


Quoting lga1965:



 The picture is PART OF THE ARTICLE, dingbat. Click on the LINK and you will find out.


Geeeeze, do I have to do everythng for you? Explain everything?Its all there for you, but youre too lazy to CLICK?


......wow....


Quoting Lizard_Lina:

You purposely put a pic of this gun up to mislead people on what it is. So I ask you again, do you know? Do you know what guns it is like?



Quoting lga1965:


 The article gives you all of the information...read it. CAn this gun be used for hunting? If not, then nobody needs it.



Quoting Lizard_Lina:

Please, do tell what kind of gun it is, how many bullets it holds, and at what rate they are released.... Or are ypu just going for the "oh it looks scary like a machine gun" effect





Quoting lga1965:



 Here's another article about this. Please notice the gun that the woman is holding. Does the average citizen NEED one of them? NO. Hell no. If they think they do, then they probably have some serious mental disturbances. Really.





http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-parents-urge-enforcement-gun-laws-171101155.html





 





Firearms Training Unit Detective Barbara J. Mattson of the Connecticut State Police holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook School shooting, for a demonstration during a hearing of a legislative subcommittee reviewing gun laws, at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford, Conn., Monday, Jan. 28, 2013. The parents of children killed in the Newtown school shooting called for better enforcement of gun laws Monday at the legislative hearing. (AP Photo/Jessica Hill)





 



 


 


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Lizard_Lina
by Silver Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:03 PM
At least i have facts, you have a yahoo article and a picture.


Quoting lga1965:

I know. But she was insinuating that I put that picture in my reply just for effect and I explained that it was with the article. I resent it when she tries to twist facts.



Quoting cjsbmom:

 Iga, she knows what kind of gun it is. She is one of those folks who thinks you're not allowed to have an opinion on gun rights unless you know everything there is to know about guns. My dad was an intelligence officer during the Vietnam War. I know a lot about weapons. I learned to shoot when I was 9. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with her over who knows more about guns, because quite frankly, it doesn't matter who knows more about them. I understand the Second Amendment, and I have a right to voice my opinion on the matter.



Quoting lga1965:





 The picture is PART OF THE ARTICLE, dingbat. Click on the LINK and you will find out.



Geeeeze, do I have to do everythng for you? Explain everything?Its all there for you, but youre too lazy to CLICK?



......wow....



Quoting Lizard_Lina:

You purposely put a pic of this gun up to mislead people on what it is. So I ask you again, do you know? Do you know what guns it is like?




Quoting lga1965:



 The article gives you all of the information...read it. CAn this gun be used for hunting? If not, then nobody needs it.




Quoting Lizard_Lina:

Please, do tell what kind of gun it is, how many bullets it holds, and at what rate they are released.... Or are ypu just going for the "oh it looks scary like a machine gun" effect






Quoting lga1965:




 Here's another article about this. Please notice the gun that the woman is holding. Does the average citizen NEED one of them? NO. Hell no. If they think they do, then they probably have some serious mental disturbances. Really.






http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-parents-urge-enforcement-gun-laws-171101155.html






 






Firearms Training Unit Detective Barbara J. Mattson of the Connecticut State Police holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook School shooting, for a demonstration during a hearing of a legislative subcommittee reviewing gun laws, at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford, Conn., Monday, Jan. 28, 2013. The parents of children killed in the Newtown school shooting called for better enforcement of gun laws Monday at the legislative hearing. (AP Photo/Jessica Hill)






 




 



 


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soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM
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I have every bit of sympathy for those families my heart breaks at their loss. However, their loss does not give them or anyone else the right to attempt to violate a Constitutional right given to me and MY kids. My cousin was killed by a drunk driver. He used a car to murder my cousin by breaking the law and driving drunk. Does that mean we should take away all cars because of the possibility that some will choose to break the law with them and kids might die? Owning cars isn't even a Constitutional right.


Quoting GLWerth:

It saddens me that some women in this group, ostensibly mothers, think it is OK (even laudable) to heckle a grieving father. 

They don't even seem to have the smallest bit of sympathy for his loss, but boy, do they LOVE their guns.

In my world, children are worth more than guns.



GLWerth
by Gina on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:06 PM
1 mom liked this

Twisting facts and parsing definitons are they only plays they have. 

A hunting rifle takes skill to use, something like an AR-15 is more of a "point and shoot", allowing you to stabilize the barrel more easily. With a hunting rifle, the aim has to be readjusted (tends to torque upward), while the configuration of military style rifles was made to put more holes into humans with less work. 


Quoting lga1965:

I know. But she was insinuating that I put that picture in my reply just for effect and I explained that it was with the article. I resent it when she tries to twist facts.

Quoting cjsbmom:

 Iga, she knows what kind of gun it is. She is one of those folks who thinks you're not allowed to have an opinion on gun rights unless you know everything there is to know about guns. My dad was an intelligence officer during the Vietnam War. I know a lot about weapons. I learned to shoot when I was 9. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with her over who knows more about guns, because quite frankly, it doesn't matter who knows more about them. I understand the Second Amendment, and I have a right to voice my opinion on the matter.


Quoting lga1965:



 The picture is PART OF THE ARTICLE, dingbat. Click on the LINK and you will find out.


Geeeeze, do I have to do everythng for you? Explain everything?Its all there for you, but youre too lazy to CLICK?


......wow....


Quoting Lizard_Lina:

You purposely put a pic of this gun up to mislead people on what it is. So I ask you again, do you know? Do you know what guns it is like?



Quoting lga1965:


 The article gives you all of the information...read it. CAn this gun be used for hunting? If not, then nobody needs it.



Quoting Lizard_Lina:

Please, do tell what kind of gun it is, how many bullets it holds, and at what rate they are released.... Or are ypu just going for the "oh it looks scary like a machine gun" effect





Quoting lga1965:



 Here's another article about this. Please notice the gun that the woman is holding. Does the average citizen NEED one of them? NO. Hell no. If they think they do, then they probably have some serious mental disturbances. Really.





http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-parents-urge-enforcement-gun-laws-171101155.html





 





Firearms Training Unit Detective Barbara J. Mattson of the Connecticut State Police holds up a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, the same make and model of gun used by Adam Lanza in the Sandy Hook School shooting, for a demonstration during a hearing of a legislative subcommittee reviewing gun laws, at the Legislative Office Building in Hartford, Conn., Monday, Jan. 28, 2013. The parents of children killed in the Newtown school shooting called for better enforcement of gun laws Monday at the legislative hearing. (AP Photo/Jessica Hill)





 



 


 


 

soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:10 PM
1 mom liked this

Have you ever actually shot either weapon? It takes skill to accurately shoot any weapon.


Quoting GLWerth:

Twisting facts and parsing definitons are they only plays they have. 

A hunting rifle takes skill to use, something like an AR-15 is more of a "point and shoot", allowing you to stabilize the barrel more easily. With a hunting rifle, the aim has to be readjusted (tends to torque upward), while the configuration of military style rifles was made to put more holes into humans with less work. 


GLWerth
by Gina on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:14 PM
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Ah yes, your sacred right to any "armament" you choose to have! Rocket launcher, check! Land mines? Why not! How about a suitcase nuke, after all, it IS technically an armament!

Why not just make it a free-for-all! No rules, no regulations, just a gun nut's heaven, where if you shoot someone, you get off by saying "he had it a'comin' ta him!"

Two things always amuse me about you "defenders of the second amendment".

1. You don't notice that no one is trying to take away all of your guns, just get some regulations in place and enforce the ones already on the books and,

2. You really, really hate it when someone points out that there is a FIRST part to the amendment, something about a "Well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state...". Yeah, I get that you don't like the part about regulation, because you want that free-for-all, shoot them first and let "god" sort them out later.

Yes, children are less important to people who look at a man who has just lost his child and think "Bastard wants to regulate mah guns!".

People with normal, human emotions feel sad for his loss.  


Quoting AngeLnChainZ:

It has nothing to do with guns being worth more than children.. It's the fact that I shouldn't lose my rights as an American because a few bad apples cause mayhem in America..

Quoting GLWerth:

It saddens me that some women in this group, ostensibly mothers, think it is OK (even laudable) to heckle a grieving father. 

They don't even seem to have the smallest bit of sympathy for his loss, but boy, do they LOVE their guns.

In my world, children are worth more than guns.



 

Veni.Vidi.Vici.
by on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM
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I dsiagree with the word heckled in this article

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