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WTF is wrong with people? I don't give two shits what your stance is on gun control. You DO NOT heckle a grieving father. Common decency apparently isn't so common anymore.

 

Father of Newtown Victim Interrupted by Shouts of "Second Amendment!"

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Posted Tuesday, Jan. 29, 2013, at 10:00 AM ET

 

 
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Thousands of people participate in the March on Washington for Gun Control on Jan. 26, 2013 in Washington, D.C.

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Connecticut state lawmakers held a public hearing in Hartford yesterday to discuss gun control and safety in the wake of last month's tragic elementary school shooting in Newtown that killed 20 students and six staff members. Some 1,500-odd members of the public turned up to be heard at the task force meeting, and by most accounts things stayed relatively civil as those on both sides of the issue made their case. Then this happened according to the Connecticut Post:

 

"The Second Amendment!" was shouted a couple of times by as many as a dozen gun enthusiasts in the meeting room as Neil Heslin, holding a photo of his slain 6-year-old son, Jesse Lewis, asked why Bushmaster assault-style weapons are allowed to be sold in the state.
"There are a lot of things that should be changed to prevent what happened," said Heslin, who said he grew up using guns and was undisturbed by the interruption of his testimony.
"That wasn't just a killing, it was a massacre," said Heslin, who recalled dropping off his son at Sandy Hook Elementary school shortly before Lanza opened fire. "I just hope some good can come out of this."

The gun debate has raged all over the country in the wake of the Newtown tragedy, although perhaps no where louder than in the state in which it unfolded. Connecticut lawmakers have already considered a wide-range of gun-related legislation in the weeks since the shooting, including proposals that would enact a 50-percent tax on ammunition, expand the state's existing assault-weapons ban and outlaw large-capacity magazines.

 

As the Wall Street Journal explained yesterday, Monday's hearing was also the site of Connecticut-based gunmakers "most robust public statements" since the shooting, with company officials pushing back against those calling for stricter gun control. "As we've seen the number of guns in society have increased, yet the violent crime rate has decreased," Joseph Bartozzi, senior VP of general counsel of Mossberg & Sons Inc., told lawmakers. "To say it's all about guns I think simply is a disservice."

 

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by on Jan. 29, 2013 at 1:21 PM
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annabl1970
by Platinum Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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 Exactly this:


Quoting GLWerth:

It saddens me that some women in this group, ostensibly mothers, think it is OK (even laudable) to heckle a grieving father. 

They don't even seem to have the smallest bit of sympathy for his loss, but boy, do they LOVE their guns.

In my world, children are worth more than guns.


 

GLWerth
by Gina on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:22 PM
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Yes, I have. 

A hunting rifle does require skill to shoot accurately and quickly. The way you hold it is totally different and aim needs to be reoriented slightly after each shot.

The shorter rifle type is a shorter range weapon and can put a lot of holes in a target (usually a human being lately) from a short distance. It doesn't have to be as accurate, because the range is short and, in the case of the shooter in CT, the targets were bunched up and easy to shoot many, many times.

Quoting soonergirl980:

Have you ever actually shot either weapon? It takes skill to accurately shoot any weapon.

 

Quoting GLWerth:

Twisting facts and parsing definitons are they only plays they have. 

A hunting rifle takes skill to use, something like an AR-15 is more of a "point and shoot", allowing you to stabilize the barrel more easily. With a hunting rifle, the aim has to be readjusted (tends to torque upward), while the configuration of military style rifles was made to put more holes into humans with less work. 

 


 

yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:26 PM

 Did the OP mean to post something else.  I don't see any heckling.

soonergirl980
by Silver Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM



Quoting GLWerth:

Ah yes, your sacred right to any "armament" you choose to have! Rocket launcher, check! Land mines? Why not! How about a suitcase nuke, after all, it IS technically an armament!

Why not just make it a free-for-all! No rules, no regulations, just a gun nut's heaven, where if you shoot someone, you get off by saying "he had it a'comin' ta him!"

Two things always amuse me about you "defenders of the second amendment".

1. You don't notice that no one is trying to take away all of your guns, just get some regulations in place and enforce the ones already on the books and, Not True we own or WANT to own several guns listed on the ban list if passed as well as several magazines that are over 10 rd limits. 

2. You really, really hate it when someone points out that there is a FIRST part to the amendment, something about a "Well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state...". Yeah, I get that you don't like the part about regulation, because you want that free-for-all, shoot them first and let "god" sort them out later.The USSC has already said that it is a individual right to own weapons. Very few gun rights advocates I would say even NONE WANT to see any gun related violence. It's funny it seems that there are those whom only want a clear and exact interpertation of the BOR or the Constitution when it comes to the 2nd. Want abortion legal oh yeah it's our Constitutional right because of the right to "privacy" forget the other words in that one or we want to force companies to do what we want them to do so we are going to have the federal govenment use interstate commerce as a way to do that.

Yes, children are less important to people who look at a man who has just lost his child and think "Bastard wants to regulate mah guns!".So you honestly believe that banning so called assualt style weapons would have stopped Adam Lanza?

People with normal, human emotions feel sad for his loss.  


GoddessNDaRuff
by Silver Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Okay. The man is speaking at a political event asking for the state to ban a certain type of weapon. He should have expected, and I'm sure he did, that people would be opposed to that view. Same if someone is speaking out about abortion and are interrupted by the pro-life or pro-choice sides. I'm sad he lost his son. The situation is tragic but honestly banning the guns will not keep them out of illegal gun holders hands.

cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:41 PM

 heck·le(hkl)

tr.v. heck·led, heck·ling, heck·les
1. To try to embarrass and annoy (someone speaking or performing in public) by questions, gibes, or objections; badger.
2. To comb (flax or hemp) with a hatchel.

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 Did the OP mean to post something else.  I don't see any heckling.

 I would say given the definition of the very word, it is exactly what I  meant to use.

GoddessNDaRuff
by Silver Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:42 PM
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Heckled is highly inappropriate for the context of what took place.

Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:

I dsiagree with the word heckled in this article


cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:47 PM
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 No, it isn't. You might want to get a dictionary and look it up.

 

tr.v. heck·led, heck·ling, heck·les
1. To try to embarrass and annoy (someone speaking or performing in public) by questions, gibes, or objections; badger.
2. To comb (flax or hemp) with a hatchel.
Quoting
GodddessNDaRuff:

Heckled is highly inappropriate for the context of what took place.

Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:

I dsiagree with the word heckled in this article


 

lga1965
by on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:48 PM

 goodExcellent.

Quoting GLWerth:

Ah yes, your sacred right to any "armament" you choose to have! Rocket launcher, check! Land mines? Why not! How about a suitcase nuke, after all, it IS technically an armament!

Why not just make it a free-for-all! No rules, no regulations, just a gun nut's heaven, where if you shoot someone, you get off by saying "he had it a'comin' ta him!"

Two things always amuse me about you "defenders of the second amendment".

1. You don't notice that no one is trying to take away all of your guns, just get some regulations in place and enforce the ones already on the books and,

2. You really, really hate it when someone points out that there is a FIRST part to the amendment, something about a "Well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state...". Yeah, I get that you don't like the part about regulation, because you want that free-for-all, shoot them first and let "god" sort them out later.

Yes, children are less important to people who look at a man who has just lost his child and think "Bastard wants to regulate mah guns!".

People with normal, human emotions feel sad for his loss.  

 

Quoting AngeLnChainZ:

It has nothing to do with guns being worth more than children.. It's the fact that I shouldn't lose my rights as an American because a few bad apples cause mayhem in America..

Quoting GLWerth:

It saddens me that some women in this group, ostensibly mothers, think it is OK (even laudable) to heckle a grieving father. 

They don't even seem to have the smallest bit of sympathy for his loss, but boy, do they LOVE their guns.

In my world, children are worth more than guns.


 

 

 

yourspecialkid
by Platinum Member on Jan. 29, 2013 at 2:52 PM
1 mom liked this

 

Quoting cjsbmom:

 heck·le(hkl)

tr.v. heck·led, heck·ling, heck·les
1. To try to embarrass and annoy (someone speaking or performing in public) by questions, gibes, or objections; badger.
2. To comb (flax or hemp) with a hatchel.

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 Did the OP mean to post something else.  I don't see any heckling.

 I would say given the definition of the very word, it is exactly what I  meant to use.

 Umm, your post proves my point.  He answered the question asked.

Maybe the OP should remove the word heckled....some of us might agree INTERUPTING was tacky....but this was not heckling.

 

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