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High school to conduct safety drill with simulated gunfire

Some parents of students at Cary-Grove High School are upset with plans for simulated gunfire during an emergency-preparedness drill.

An Illinois high school's plans for an emergency-response drill complete with simulated gunfire has some parents on edge.

Cary-Grove High School in Cary, Ill., about 45 miles northwest of Chicago, has scheduled a "Code Red" lockdown drill for Wednesday. The drill includes the firing of blanks in the hallway so that students and teachers "might be able to recognize the sound and react quickly should an active gunman situation occur," the school said in a statement on its website.

The drill will be conducted with the help of Cary police officers, who will sweep the building.

Some parents wondered whether including the simulated gunfire was going too far.

"It's probably necessary to have the 'code red' drill but not really necessary to shoot the blanks in the hallway," parent Kassy Pinter told CBS Chicago.

"If you need to run a drill, you run a drill," parent Sharon Miller told WBBM Newsradio. "They run fire drills all the time, but they don't run up and down the hallway with a flamethrower."

School officials explained how the drill will be conducted:

"The drill will begin with a public address announcement about the lockdown. After staff have secured their rooms, Cary police and administrators will sweep the building to ensure all students made it into secure locations and assess any potential issues that may become apparent from the practice. Following this, a second PA announcement will be made informing students and staff that gunfire will be simulated so that they might be able to recognize the sound and react quickly, should an active gunman situation occur.

"Following the drill, a discussion will ensue between the students and their classroom teacher. We will utilize this feedback as a building and police department to assess our security and make any necessary adjustments to our building plan. Our sole purpose for utilizing the blanks is to fully prepare our students and staff."

School officials encouraged parents to discuss the drill with their children before and after it happens.

"These drills help our students and staff to be prepared should a crisis occur, but it may cause some students to have an emotional reaction. In those cases, a parent's voice may provide reassurances of the drill's importance," the school said. "Additionally, we have trained social workers on staff who can speak directly with students."

Schools across the country have been grappling with better ways to increase security and respond to emergencies in the wake of last month's mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn. The massacre, carried out by 20-year-old Adam Lanza, left 20 first-graders and six adults dead. Police said Lanza also killed his mother at their Newtown home and later committed suicide as police approached the school.

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by on Jan. 29, 2013 at 9:02 PM
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cjsbmom
by Lois Lane on Jan. 30, 2013 at 6:35 AM
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 Oh FFS, these are KIDS, not the military. They shouldn't have to be trained to do either.

Quoting momtimesx4:

train like you fight

 

 

punky3175
by Punky on Jan. 30, 2013 at 7:00 AM
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Ok - I'm going to be the oddball and say I like the idea. I think the school is handling it very well. Kids already practice how to react in such a situation but if they don't know what gunfire sounds like they won't be able to actually USE what they've been taught. I was active duty for 6 years and have fired guns personally (not often) and I don't know what gunfire sounds like without hearing protection.

I hate the idea this is necessary but I'd rather my kids be prepared and react accordingly than freeze up in a real life situation and not able to get somewhere safe. I understand what Sisteract was saying but there's no way to prevent a single student using what they learn to their advantage. You have to look out for the whole.

If they were going to have this drill with blanks being fired and not warn everyone, then I'd be pissed. But they're going to do the drill, then announce the firing so everyone knows exactly what's happening.

ETA: if it were elementary or middle school I would have an issue with it, but this is high school and as horrible and tragic as it is, knowing how to react to an active shooter situation is a life skill everyone needs in our society.
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dustinsmom1
by JENN on Jan. 30, 2013 at 7:49 AM
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 They did a lock down drill at my sons elementary school, no gun fire though. The police were there and the children all have assigned hiding spots depending on where the are/ As much as i hate to say it, in this day and age, id rather them be prepared then completely at a loss should something , god forbid, happen.

rfurlongg
by on Jan. 30, 2013 at 8:02 AM
My sons school did the same thing. Because my boys are blissfully unaware of the school shootings they dumped the drill in as several other drills the school has (fire, tornado, severe storm etc) they dubbed this last drill as a "crazy tornado drill with hide and seek"-- their words.

Quoting dustinsmom1:

 They did a lock down drill at my sons elementary school, no gun fire though. The police were there and the children all have assigned hiding spots depending on where the are/ As much as i hate to say it, in this day and age, id rather them be prepared then completely at a loss should something , god forbid, happen.

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lizzielouaf
by Gold Member on Jan. 30, 2013 at 8:21 AM
If people want the reality of school personnel carrying concealed weapons "just in case" the school should be required to have drills. How are students supposed to understand wth is going on otherwise? Can you imagine how confusing it could be to a first grader to suddenly be in a situation where they see Mrs. Jones, their math teacher, pull out a gun? It's not just about preparing them physically. If not a drill they should, at the very least, have an open forum to inform students so they can mentally prepare them.
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Woodbabe
by Woodie on Jan. 30, 2013 at 9:15 AM
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I absolutely agree, and some of the responses here show exactly why. We're so afraid of our poor kids learning to deal with ANY kind of stress that we coddle them and keep them under our aprons. THOSE are the kids growing up without coping skills. Maybe kids are too jumpy, freaking out anytime a book is dropped in the hallway. For whatever reason, this school wants to make sure those kids know what a gunshot sounds like so they don't overreact to 'other noises' that might be mistaken, if they've never heard a gunshot. If your kid is so delicate in high school that the pre-planned and forewarned use of a starter pistol is going to traumatize them, then you have much more to be worried about.

Quoting punky3175:

Ok - I'm going to be the oddball and say I like the idea. I think the school is handling it very well. Kids already practice how to react in such a situation but if they don't know what gunfire sounds like they won't be able to actually USE what they've been taught. I was active duty for 6 years and have fired guns personally (not often) and I don't know what gunfire sounds like without hearing protection.

I hate the idea this is necessary but I'd rather my kids be prepared and react accordingly than freeze up in a real life situation and not able to get somewhere safe. I understand what Sisteract was saying but there's no way to prevent a single student using what they learn to their advantage. You have to look out for the whole.

If they were going to have this drill with blanks being fired and not warn everyone, then I'd be pissed. But they're going to do the drill, then announce the firing so everyone knows exactly what's happening.

ETA: if it were elementary or middle school I would have an issue with it, but this is high school and as horrible and tragic as it is, knowing how to react to an active shooter situation is a life skill everyone needs in our society.


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Woodbabe
by Woodie on Jan. 30, 2013 at 9:18 AM

So if the worst case nightmare came true at your child's school, you prefer screaming chaos to any kind of understood, practiced emergency escape/coping plan? I guess I see it as empowering a child to know they have a plan, and that's preferable to leaving a child cowering in tears/fear on the ground in case of an emergency. I'm pretty sure the teacher can't pick up and carry 30 students to safety.

Quoting cjsbmom:

 Oh FFS, these are KIDS, not the military. They shouldn't have to be trained to do either.

Quoting momtimesx4:

train like you fight


 


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survivorinohio
by René on Jan. 30, 2013 at 9:20 AM


Quoting cjsbmom:

 

Quoting autodidact:

brilliant. a sufficicent number of such drills and it'll be the boy who cried wolf. either that or used as cover for the real thing. 

 Last week, my 7 year old ran down the hallway, into his room, dove under his desk and hid. The entire time, he was  simulating gunfire. I asked him what he was doing, and he said "practicing a code red." *sigh*

What a farked up world we live in when 7 year olds are practicing code reds, complete with gunfire noises.

:(

How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


Woodbabe
by Woodie on Jan. 30, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Guns that shoot blanks (like a starting pistol) usually are incapable of shooting real bullets...blank firing guns look real but don't hold real bullets.

Quoting TruthSeeker.:

 Uh, no way in Hell my kid would be in school that day. A bunch of cops running around the school shooting blanks? A gun should not be discharged inside of a school AT ALL. I don't are if they are blanks. What if someone loads a weapon wrong. This is just irresponsible and going beyond what is necessary.


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punky3175
by Punky on Jan. 30, 2013 at 9:30 AM
I was talking to my 'train husband' this morning about this thread and clarified that I wouldn't necessarily want this kind of drill (gunfire) in an elementary school, I do believe even that age group needs a demonstration by the local police department. A shooting type demonstration with ear protection so they can also become familiar with the sound. But in these grade levels the focus should be on the teachers/adults in the so they can recognize the sound, remain calm and get the students and themselves to safety.

After Sandy Hook I asked my kids how they'd react. My 16 yo daughter didn't have a clue. My 13 year old son replied he'd follow the practiced plan.

Should our kids be forced to know how to react to this type of situation? No but the fact is that it is now a part of our society and will be a lifelong skill they will need but hopefully never have to use.


Quoting Woodbabe:

I absolutely agree, and some of the responses here show exactly why. We're so afraid of our poor kids learning to deal with ANY kind of stress that we coddle them and keep them under our aprons. THOSE are the kids growing up without coping skills. Maybe kids are too jumpy, freaking out anytime a book is dropped in the hallway. For whatever reason, this school wants to make sure those kids know what a gunshot sounds like so they don't overreact to 'other noises' that might be mistaken, if they've never heard a gunshot. If your kid is so delicate in high school that the pre-planned and forewarned use of a starter pistol is going to traumatize them, then you have much more to be worried about.

Quoting punky3175:

Ok - I'm going to be the oddball and say I like the idea. I think the school is handling it very well. Kids already practice how to react in such a situation but if they don't know what gunfire sounds like they won't be able to actually USE what they've been taught. I was active duty for 6 years and have fired guns personally (not often) and I don't know what gunfire sounds like without hearing protection.


I hate the idea this is necessary but I'd rather my kids be prepared and react accordingly than freeze up in a real life situation and not able to get somewhere safe. I understand what Sisteract was saying but there's no way to prevent a single student using what they learn to their advantage. You have to look out for the whole.


If they were going to have this drill with blanks being fired and not warn everyone, then I'd be pissed. But they're going to do the drill, then announce the firing so everyone knows exactly what's happening.


ETA: if it were elementary or middle school I would have an issue with it, but this is high school and as horrible and tragic as it is, knowing how to react to an active shooter situation is a life skill everyone needs in our society.


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