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This is Bull S***!! our freedom are gone!! thank both parties/Obama signs bill 'in secret' making FREE SPEECH ILLEGAL!

Posted by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:20 AM
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Listen to the Judge  explain, it's easy to understand. We will lose freedom of speech, the freedom of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This was supported by both parties.

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motha2daDuchess
by Bruja on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:22 AM
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cant watch....but if its on the interwbs it has to be true....

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gammie
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:23 AM
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Your head has been in the dryer to long!!

Quoting motha2daDuchess:

cant watch....but if its on the interwbs it has to be true....



x_Starr_x
by Bronze Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:25 AM
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can't see the post but I'm sure it's BS lol
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Stephanie329
by Platinum Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:26 AM
I've never heard that expression/comeback/insult or whatever it was. So clever.



Quoting gammie:


Your head has been in the dryer to long!!


Quoting motha2daDuchess:

cant watch....but if its on the interwbs it has to be true....






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edelweiss23
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:27 AM
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Has anyone looked this up on snopes?
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Stephanie329
by Platinum Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:30 AM
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So this bill was passed by both parties. Are you going to write to your reps?
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lizzielouaf
by Gold Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:31 AM
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You do realize this was a bill first enacted when Nixon was president correct?

Stephanie329
by Platinum Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:33 AM
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Obama Criminalize Free Speech?



Q: Did President Obama secretly sign a law that makes it a crime to protest against him or ask him a question he doesn’t like?



A: No. He openly announced the signing of a bill overwhelmingly passed by Congress that slightly revises a 1971 law against trespassing into areas under Secret Service protection.

Is this true?

Subject: Obama quietly tramples the first amendment

I truly thought this was a joke until I watched the short video of Judge Napolitano. Here is another law that separates citizens from the President.

New law makes it illegal to protest in Obama’s presence (or whomever he chooses)

This means that, wherever Obama is at, you do not have a right to ask him anything you want to. His secret service can have you arrested, fined, and imprisoned for more than a YEAR if you ask him something he doesn’t like. Sound like he’s more like Hitler than Lincoln to you?


WATCH AND BE AMAZED AT HIS LATEST ATTEMPT TO STAGE A TAKE OVER OF AMERICA…
Click on the link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=7SGWH3kirzg&vq=medium

FULL ANSWER

We have received numerous inquiries about HR 347, the “Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011,” but many of the claims made in this email and elsewhere are simply untrue.

The law merely updates a measure that has been on the books since it was signed by then-President Richard Nixon in 1971, making it a federal crime to trespass on grounds secured by the Secret Service. No new penalties were added, and the bill was not signed “secretly” as some claim. The White House announced the signing publicly just as it does for other such routine measures.

Manufactured Controversy

This was about as routine and noncontroversial as a federal law can get, at least until false claims started to circulate, drumming up a manufactured controversy. The law was sponsored by a Republican, Rep. Thomas Rooney of Florida. In fact, the bill has been around for years. Rooney first introduced it in 2009 and spoke about it on the House floor in 2010. The current Congress passed it overwhelmingly — by “unanimous consent” in the Senate, and with only three House members voting against it.

It merely amended Title 18, Chapter 84, Section 1752 of the U.S. Code — just as then-President George W. Bush did in 2006 when he signed the Patriot Act. (Click on the link to the U.S. Code and you can see how it was amended in 1982, 1984, 1994 and 2006.)

According to the official report of the full House Judiciary Committee (which approved it on a voice vote, without recorded opposition), the bill adds two things to previously existing law:

It specifies that it is unlawful to enter secured areas of the White House and its grounds, or the vice president’s official residence and grounds. Previously, according to the report, the law prohibited unlawful entry to any building or ground, secured by the Secret Service, where the president or vice president is “temporarily” visiting. That forced the Secret Service to rely on a District of Columbia law that “addresses only minor misdemeanor infractions” even if somebody were to breach the White House residence itself.
The new law revises the standard that prosecutors must meet to gain a conviction, from proving that a violation was committed “willfully and knowingly” to merely proving that it was committed “knowingly.”
The bill reached the House floor on Feb. 28, 2011, but not a single member spoke out against it during the seven minutes of debate. The House then passed it by a vote of 399 to 3. Only Reps. Ron Paul of Texas, Justin Amash of Michigan and Paul Broun of Georgia, all Republicans, voted against it. The Senate didn’t take it up until nearly a year later, when it reached the floor on Feb. 6, 2012. With no debate whatsoever, the Senate passed a slightly amended version by “unanimous consent,” meaning that not a single senator voiced any opposition.

The Senate version reached the House floor a few days later, Feb. 27. Once again nobody spoke against the measure during another very brief debate, which lasted eight minutes. The House vote this time was 388 to 3, but those voting against included a liberal Democrat — Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota, co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Ellison had voted for the measure the first time. His switch brought to four the total number of House members who had voted against the measure during either House vote. (Paul was absent this time.)

Obama signed the measure into law March 8. But he didn’t do it in secret, as critics would later claim. There was no public ceremony, of the sort reserved for major pieces of legislation. But like most routine and noncontroversial measures, this one was signed in private and then announced publicly through an official White House statement.

Bogus Claims

So how did such an innocuous measure come to be described as an assault on the First Amendment and a criminalizing of any protest against Barack Obama? The emails we have seen usually include a link to a video of a Fox News’ report criticizing the law as an unprecedented attack on free speech, and claiming that the law makes it a crime to protest and imposes stiff new penalties — including making it a felony for merely asking Obama a question he doesn’t like or protesting peacefully in his presence.

All those claims are bogus.

As we’ve seen, the law has been around since Richard Nixon’s time, and the changes Congress approved don’t impose new penalties or even address the issues of speech or protest.

The Fox News report, for example, claimed that the new law makes it a felony to protest against the president, and the emails circulating about it say you can be put in prison “for more than a YEAR if you ask him something he [Obama] doesn’t like.” But even before the law was amended this year, it provided for penalties of up to 10 years — if the person in a restricted area carries a deadly weapon or causes “significant bodily injury.” Nothing new. There's more at the link.



http://m.factcheck.org/2012/05/obama-criminalize-free-speech/
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lizzielouaf
by Gold Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:34 AM
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That's what I'm talking about..this is not new and was not done "in secret" thus trampling all over OP's right to free speech. Ridiculous


Quoting Stephanie329:


Obama Criminalize Free Speech?

Q: Did President Obama secretly sign a law that makes it a crime to protest against him or ask him a question he doesn’t like?

A: No. He openly announced the signing of a bill overwhelmingly passed by Congress that slightly revises a 1971 law against trespassing into areas under Secret Service protection.

http://m.factcheck.org/2012/05/obama-criminalize-free-speech/



mikiemom
by Ruby Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:38 AM

This is false.

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