Maybe if We All Prayed Together for the Little Boy in the Bunker . . .
Maybe, if we all prayed this morning, right now, today -- to any God or Higher Power you choose, if only for 30 seconds-- that . .
Young Ethan in that frightening underground hell-hole, will feel peace, and the knowledge that that he is loved, and not give up hope.
Ethan's mother will know that so many surround her in spirit, give their emotional support, and stand by her in solidarity against senseless violence.
Old Dyke, blistering with anger, fear and hatred, will realize the boy is just an innocent, has done nothing to hurt him, and give himself up.
All the emergency responders will maintain their composure and act with rational thought to bring this grievous standoff to an end.
Maybe, if we all prayed . . .
Quoting LindaClement:Never suggested you didn't have the 'right' to anything.
Wonder about your efficacy.
Your expression of frustration suggests that the method you're using isn't adding to your peace of mind.
Quoting 3lilladies81:
Yes I'm very aware I'm also aware of when it applies and when it doesn't. I have every right to stand up for what I believe.
Quoting LindaClement:Are you familiar with the phrase 'turn the other cheek'?
Just curious...
Quoting 3lilladies81:
It is what I personally believe. I believe what I want you believe what you want. I didn't say anything mean, rude or hateful towards atheists or any religion. This thread is full of negativity and hatred towards God what do you want me to do? Be a good little Christian and keep my mouth shut? Well I'm sorry I have EVERY RIGHT to express MY FEELINGS!! I DID NOT attack any belief I expressed my grief and if my grief offends you well then I don't know what to tell you, but I sure will not apologize for the way I feel!
Quoting Goodwoman614:
Quoting 3lilladies81:
This thread deeply saddens me it just goes to show how far away from God people have become :( ...... Even how far from respect we have came which until today I didn't know was "so complicated"I'm about as far away from goD as one can get: I'm atheist.
Nice implication, that being 'so far away from god' is something anyone should be 'deeply saddened' over.
Well now.
I am deeply...not surprised.
Deeply wish that who I am was not seen as a shame, saddening, negative/bad/evil, etc. by others, the same ppl who claim butthurt whenever they perceive themselves to be recipients of similar insult (most of the time imagined, or confused with ppl taking issue with Christian entitlement, which many Christians are blind to suffering from).
Wish that posts like this, with all the disenfranchisement, condescencion (at best), ridicule & other forms of general disparagement of non-believers would never be seen again.
With due respect your direction because I understand the kindness and caring underlying the intent of your thread. I say to you now:
For a rather large number of our fellow humanity, it seems all the prayer in the world has fallen on deaf ears. Ask the parents of those children in Newtown. Ask a mom living in Africa being forced to watch her child starve to death. Ask some of the moms in this group who have lost spouses and children to illness or accident. I will guarantee you they all have prayed that their children live....that their spouse NOT be the one involved in the fatal MVA they just heard about...etc etc etc.
Why weren't their prayers answered? Why are some prayers seemingly answered, as you believe happened to you, while others are categorically ignored?
This is an honest question.
Of course I pray in the form of fervently hoping that little boy is returned safely home. But I am praying to the forces of fate, because that's about the way I see it. I cannot fathom a God who would choose not to answer our pleas on behalf of children, who are about the epitome of innocence and have done nothing whatsoever to deserve suffering ![]()
Quoting MentorMom1:I am disgusted beyond imagination by the many immature and utterly pathetic responses to this post. No one knows why prayer works, or why sometimes prayers seem to go unanswered. But I do know that in my own life, I have been amazed: A husband, jobs, houses, grandchildren, students that I needed and who needed me.
For those who do not believe in the power of prayer, that's fine. You might want to read a book entitled, The Science of Making Things Happen, if science is something you relate to. I loved the book.
The ability to choose peace and understanding among people, and the will to do so, comes with many blessings.
I think that's a very sensible choice. Have a great night!
Quoting 3lilladies81:
You are so correct which is why after I type this I'm turning the phone off and get some MUCH needed prayer time! My frustration is that no matter what I say people are offended and that's not what I'm trying to do!
Quoting LindaClement:Never suggested you didn't have the 'right' to anything.
Wonder about your efficacy.
Your expression of frustration suggests that the method you're using isn't adding to your peace of mind.
Quoting 3lilladies81:
Yes I'm very aware I'm also aware of when it applies and when it doesn't. I have every right to stand up for what I believe.
Quoting LindaClement:Are you familiar with the phrase 'turn the other cheek'?
Just curious...
Quoting 3lilladies81:
It is what I personally believe. I believe what I want you believe what you want. I didn't say anything mean, rude or hateful towards atheists or any religion. This thread is full of negativity and hatred towards God what do you want me to do? Be a good little Christian and keep my mouth shut? Well I'm sorry I have EVERY RIGHT to express MY FEELINGS!! I DID NOT attack any belief I expressed my grief and if my grief offends you well then I don't know what to tell you, but I sure will not apologize for the way I feel!
Quoting Goodwoman614:
Quoting 3lilladies81:
This thread deeply saddens me it just goes to show how far away from God people have become :( ...... Even how far from respect we have came which until today I didn't know was "so complicated"I'm about as far away from goD as one can get: I'm atheist.
Nice implication, that being 'so far away from god' is something anyone should be 'deeply saddened' over.
Well now.
I am deeply...not surprised.
Deeply wish that who I am was not seen as a shame, saddening, negative/bad/evil, etc. by others, the same ppl who claim butthurt whenever they perceive themselves to be recipients of similar insult (most of the time imagined, or confused with ppl taking issue with Christian entitlement, which many Christians are blind to suffering from).
Wish that posts like this, with all the disenfranchisement, condescencion (at best), ridicule & other forms of general disparagement of non-believers would never be seen again.
Thank you for posting this. I thank the OP for posting this post.. I believe in God. I believe in postitve energy. It is shocking and shameful that a little boy held by someone deranged is turned into thisA flipping religious post..Send prayers, or positve thoughts. We are moms on here! This is a child! Sit down and shut up if you want to turn it religious. You KNEW it was religious when the OP posted it. ENOUGH negitivity. Lets all pray for that boy, under any God you pray to, or send postive energy. If that was my child, I don't know what I would do. Shocking. We can make a difference through prayer and sending positive energy.
Quoting fnpdocgrrl:I don't pray to any other being, but you can be damned sure my thoughts of a safe return are there for that little boy. Poor little guy :( :( :(
Yes. This is day 6 if I'm not mistaken.
Quoting KreatingMe:Is this poor child still being held captive?
The last I heard was on day 3. I hadn't read any news for the past few days, obviously. How awful for him and his parents. I wonder what the plan is? Are authorities trying to wait this man out?
Quoting fnpdocgrrl:Yes. This is day 6 if I'm not mistaken.
Quoting KreatingMe:Is this poor child still being held captive?
Duh. Prayer doesn't work. What works is that the patient is less depressed when they realize they have people thinking about them. Depression slows recovery time and weakens the immune system. It's not rocket science. If prayer worked, children wouldn't die of cancer.
Quoting MentorMom1:People say they don't believe in prayer. But studies have been done that prove it actually works. Patients who have people praying for them actually recover sooner. When doctors spend more time with their patients, their patients have better outcomes.
For centuries the world has been defined by Newtonian physics. It only studied the particles. (The basis of allopathic medicine.) Quantum physics, however, is based on the invisible energy called 'fields." According to cell biologist Bruce Lipton, " The whole foundation of the universe is not based on the mechanical, physical universe, it's based on the invisible energy called the field."
In other words, it's the energy field that controls the particles, gives shape to the particles.
Albert Einstein said, “The field is the sole governing agency of the particle.” Since Einstein uses the term particle to represent “matter,” he is acknowledging that the field controls our physical reality. (metavalent.com)
What do you think we are doing when we pray, but trying to influence the physical world with energy?
Think of this: Magnetic filings will fall into certain patterns without understanding the force that caused them to do so. But the force is there, nonetheless.
That force has also been called the Matrix. Some call it a spiritual matrix. But it's existence cannot be denied.
Quoting frogbender:
Prayer doesn't work.
Done! If it were my child, I would be devastated. Little boy must be terrified.
You know what? It doesn't matter to me what people believe. That's their business. However, as human beings we all do have a spiritual nature. It's just another dimension. I don't care if people want to spend their time bickering. That's their business. It does seem like a waste of time and energy. I posted something and people decided to create a debate about it.
What is this, Day 6 now? And this child is still a prisoner? It's still a current event.
Quoting desertlvn:
OP- I think you were well intentioned. However, it would be odd to enter a room that was holding a women's debate club and say what you said here. It isn't the right venue. It isn't surprising that this turned into a religious debate.



- MentorMom1
on Feb. 1, 2013 at 10:54 AM