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 http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/justice/georgia-teacher-arrested/index.html?hpt=ju_c2

Loads of questions on this one...

1.) How can she be suspended WITH pay? Is that a clause governing teachers where innocent until proven guilty applies?

2.) Would this be different if the teacher were male and the students female?

3.) What it be different if the teacher and students were the same gender?

4.) How does your teen age son have a sexual relationship for up to a year (as alleged in the arti) and you, as the parent, not know something is up?

How do you feel about this story? Is there any parent here who would say "well good for him, getting some of that"? (or something else to that effect)

 

Georgia teacher accused of having sex with students

By Vivian Kuo, CNN
updated 11:14 AM EST, Thu January 31, 2013
DaNita Wilson, 32, is accused of having sex with seven of her students.
DaNita Wilson, 32, is accused of having sex with seven of her students.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • A high school teacher is accused of having sex with seven students
  • Some of the relationships lasted more than a year, investigators say
  • Suspended teacher will have an employment hearing, school superintendent says

Atlanta (CNN) -- A Georgia high school teacher was arrested Tuesday after being accused of having sex with seven students, one of whom was 15.

The Charlton County district attorney charged DaNita Wilson, 32, with seven counts of sexual assault, and more charges may still be pending, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said.

"After we began the investigation, there was enough that developed to arrest Ms. Wilson," bureau assistant special agent in charge Stacy Carson said. "The investigation is still ongoing."

Six of the victims are over the age of 16, the legal age of consent in Georgia, while the seventh was 15 years old, Carson said. One was a former student who has since graduated.

"Some of the (relationships) had been going on for at least one year or longer," Carson said.

Wilson has also been suspended with pay, in accordance with regulations, until she has a formal hearing regarding her employment.

District officials began the inquiry Monday after receiving a complaint about the teacher.

"We received information within the school system," said Charlton County Schools Superintendent John Lairsey. "The main meetings continued on Tuesday. At that point, we got the sheriff's office and GBI involved, and (Wilson) was removed from class before lunch."

Lairsey, who used to be the principal at Charlton County High School where Wilson worked, said he knew her.

"There was no reason, no indication, that this would occur," he said.

Wilson has been at the school for a decade, he said. She typically taught ninth-grade math.

Lairsey escorted Wilson to waiting local and state investigators, he said.

"I gave her a letter explaining her suspension, and I transferred her to their custody," he said. "There was very little dialogue."

High school Principal Joshua M. Howard sent a letter Wednesday informing all parents of "inappropriate conduct by an employee," offering counseling services to students and assuring parents of their children's safety.

"We are dedicated to the well-being to all of our students and are fully cooperating with the GBI and their investigation," Lairsey said. "Anytime a school system employee or teacher commits an act that is inappropriate, that gives us a black eye on educators everywhere."

Wilson's bond was set at $35,000, $5,000 for each count of sexual assault. No other court dates have been set.

Lairsey said a hearing regarding Wilson's job would be scheduled within 10 days.

"I will be recommending termination," he said. "We're just shocked and disappointed. And it's just hard to believe. Just disappointed and disheartened that people we put our trust in would violate that trust."

5 charged in alleged teacher-student relationships at New Jersey high school

by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM
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lancet98
by Silver Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM

 


Quoting Radarma:

 http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/justice/georgia-teacher-arrested/index.html?hpt=ju_c2

Loads of questions on this one...

1.) How can she be suspended WITH pay? Is that a clause governing teachers where innocent until proven guilty applies?

It was explained right in the article.   That's procedure.  They take the person out of the classroom until it is established what exactly really happened.

And most likely, if parents heard about it, they would demand the teacher not teach until it was sure what had happened.   On the surface, at least, it sounds reasonable.

2.) Would this be different if the teacher were male and the students female?

Yes.   If the teacher were male, many people here would be making snotty comments about 'seductive girls chasing men' and the like, and most likely, it wouldn't be as newsworthy.  In some communities, if the male were a prominent citizen it might even be hushed up.

There is more a sense of outrage if a woman has relations with teen males, than if a male has relations with teen girls.   And many women will blame the 'seductive girl', as I noted.

3.) What it be different if the teacher and students were the same gender?

Yes.   In that case a lot of people would be screaming about 'the gay' and how they 'make kids gay'.   Some people reserve their most extreme reactions for this sort of situation.  The person who did it might rightfully be in fear for his or her life, especially if it's a male.   Oddly, generally, people who despise 'the gay' often don't even recognize that lesbians can exist or even take them seriously - they think lesbians are just heterosexuals who need a man to 'turn them straight'.

To me, personally, I feel that adults are not supposed to have sexual relations with minors.  I don't care if it's a man, a woman, or what orientation, I don't feel adults have any business having sexual relations with minors, and I think it's a law for a very good reason.  Under the law, minors are not responsible for such things, the adults are, precisely because it is believed that minors are too easily led and manipulated.

4.) How does your teen age son have a sexual relationship for up to a year (as alleged in the arti) and you, as the parent, not know something is up?

Well some parents will point out that their own kids surprised the bejesus out of them with some outrageous thing they were doing and successfully hiding through elaborate efforts.  Parents can't always detect every thing their kids do, especially when other adults and friends cover for them. 

But many kids would blurt it out in an angry or emotional moment, too, and get found out. 

How do you feel about this story? Is there any parent here who would say "well good for him, getting some of that"? (or something else to that effect)

Only when it's a teen with a female teacher.   Under a certain age there's be horror, but if he were 14-18, you'd hear the jokes, for sure.

Yes, many otherwise normal adults would laugh or make jokes about it - about the minor male.   About the woman, they'd have a far different reaction - she's a slut, a whore, immature, or likes doing it with children - in all ways, she is the lowest form of life.   And if it were a gay male and a minor male child, God help him, in some towns he'd be a dead man before he got arrested.

I think the various ways people react tell us an awful lot about some of the flaws and strange beliefs within ourselves, than about the criminal or the victims.

The law, however, is both simple and clear.   Adults are not allowed to have sexual relations with minors, and when they do, they are charged with a crime, and the action is their legal responsibility, not the minor's.  Under the law, there is generally no such thing as a 'seductive' teen and a 'victim' adult - it's the adult's basic job as a citizen, to avoid such situations and control him or herself, and if things are going down the wrong path, remove him/herself from the situation.

 

Radarma
by "OneDar" on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM

 Thank you for the thoughtful response.

I disagree though on the part about if it were a male teacher/female students; I think the general public reaction would be MUCH more extreme in that case and that concerns me.

Quoting lancet98:

 

 

Quoting Radarma:

 http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/justice/georgia-teacher-arrested/index.html?hpt=ju_c2

Loads of questions on this one...

1.) How can she be suspended WITH pay? Is that a clause governing teachers where innocent until proven guilty applies?

It was explained right in the article.   That's procedure.  They take the person out of the classroom until it is established what exactly really happened.

And most likely, if parents heard about it, they would demand the teacher not teach until it was sure what had happened.   On the surface, at least, it sounds reasonable.

2.) Would this be different if the teacher were male and the students female?

Yes.   If the teacher were male, many people here would be making snotty comments about 'seductive girls chasing men' and the like, and most likely, it wouldn't be as newsworthy.  In some communities, if the male were a prominent citizen it might even be hushed up.

There is more a sense of outrage if a woman has relations with teen males, than if a male has relations with teen girls.   And many women will blame the 'seductive girl', as I noted.

3.) What it be different if the teacher and students were the same gender?

Yes.   In that case a lot of people would be screaming about 'the gay' and how they 'make kids gay'.   Some people reserve their most extreme reactions for this sort of situation.  The person who did it might rightfully be in fear for his or her life, especially if it's a male.   Oddly, generally, people who despise 'the gay' often don't even recognize that lesbians can exist or even take them seriously - they think lesbians are just heterosexuals who need a man to 'turn them straight'.

To me, personally, I feel that adults are not supposed to have sexual relations with minors.  I don't care if it's a man, a woman, or what orientation, I don't feel adults have any business having sexual relations with minors, and I think it's a law for a very good reason.  Under the law, minors are not responsible for such things, the adults are, precisely because it is believed that minors are too easily led and manipulated.

4.) How does your teen age son have a sexual relationship for up to a year (as alleged in the arti) and you, as the parent, not know something is up?

Well some parents will point out that their own kids surprised the bejesus out of them with some outrageous thing they were doing and successfully hiding through elaborate efforts.  Parents can't always detect every thing their kids do, especially when other adults and friends cover for them. 

But many kids would blurt it out in an angry or emotional moment, too, and get found out. 

How do you feel about this story? Is there any parent here who would say "well good for him, getting some of that"? (or something else to that effect)

Only when it's a teen with a female teacher.   Under a certain age there's be horror, but if he were 14-18, you'd hear the jokes, for sure.

Yes, many otherwise normal adults would laugh or make jokes about it - about the minor male.   About the woman, they'd have a far different reaction - she's a slut, a whore, immature, or likes doing it with children - in all ways, she is the lowest form of life.   And if it were a gay male and a minor male child, God help him, in some towns he'd be a dead man before he got arrested.

I think the various ways people react tell us an awful lot about some of the flaws and strange beliefs within ourselves, than about the criminal or the victims.

The law, however, is both simple and clear.   Adults are not allowed to have sexual relations with minors, and when they do, they are charged with a crime, and the action is their legal responsibility, not the minor's.  Under the law, there is generally no such thing as a 'seductive' teen and a 'victim' adult - it's the adult's basic job as a citizen, to avoid such situations and control him or herself, and if things are going down the wrong path, remove him/herself from the situation.

 

 

Bigmetalchicken
by Silver Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Sadly, they do. I find it more disgusting that a woman would do this shit.  I don't know why, but I do.  

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:44 PM


Quoting Radarma:

 http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/30/justice/georgia-teacher-arrested/index.html?hpt=ju_c2

Loads of questions on this one...

1.) How can she be suspended WITH pay? Is that a clause governing teachers where innocent until proven guilty applies?

2.) Would this be different if the teacher were male and the students female?

3.) What it be different if the teacher and students were the same gender?

4.) How does your teen age son have a sexual relationship for up to a year (as alleged in the arti) and you, as the parent, not know something is up?

How do you feel about this story? Is there any parent here who would say "well good for him, getting some of that"? (or something else to that effect)

 

5 charged in alleged teacher-student relationships at New Jersey high school

I would have to know the actual policy of this district to say any thing in regards to the first question.  

I don't know why it would be different or what would be different.  Are you referring to being suspended with pay?

Teens can do a lot that their parents are not aware of, unless, of course.....their parent(s) are with them 24/7, looking over their shoulders.  We do not know how these relationships worked, outside of obviously having sex.  

I can't imagine any one I know thinking this is okay.  

This woman has some serious issues.  I just cannot grasp wanting to have sex with a child, much less carrying on with one for any amount of time.  Multiple people at that. 

Teachers have power, persuasion and influence over our children.  Some, however, use that to manipulate.  Now, with that being said, and without knowing any of the actual facts of circumstances, I can't imagine one of my own children falling for such a thing from a teacher.

The boys, they should have known better.  Sure.  But, again.........I can't assume to know their minds, their lives.


LauraKW
by "Dude!" on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:44 PM
Never ok, doesn't matter the sex of the students or the teacher.
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btamilee
by Silver Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM

It is wrong...period! 

EvilQueenMommy
by Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:47 PM

1.) How can she be suspended WITH pay? Is that a clause governing teachers where innocent until proven guilty applies? 
I think that's standard procedure
2.) Would this be different if the teacher were male and the students female? 
no
3.) What it be different if the teacher and students were the same gender? 
no
4.) How does your teen age son have a sexual relationship for up to a year (as alleged in the arti) and you, as the parent, not know something is up? 
No idea, but I am sure things like that happen, kids lie
How do you feel about this story? Is there any parent here who would say "well good for him, getting some of that"? (or something else to that effect)

No, gross

futureshock
by Ruby Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:48 PM

This is becoming almost an epidemic at this point.  I don't get it.

talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:51 PM
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So she should be fired for something that isn't proven?


Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:

I'm grossed out and pissed off. I'm furious to know that she is receiving wages. I wonder what, if anything, is in her union contract. I suspect that by paying her dues it's afforded her her salary until she is convicted.



Veni.Vidi.Vici.
by on Feb. 1, 2013 at 6:53 PM


Quoting talia-mom:

So she should be fired for something that isn't proven?


Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:

I'm grossed out and pissed off. I'm furious to know that she is receiving wages. I wonder what, if anything, is in her union contract. I suspect that by paying her dues it's afforded her her salary until she is convicted.



I don't get why you're asking me that question


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