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Mine ate all the jerky and is in major time out.

I have used a slap to thje rump or an upslap under the jowls in the past with animals.  I have also used a crop.

I havent gone near her today I am too mad and she knows it

Do you think dogs can benefit from physical discipline?

How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


by on Feb. 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM
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tambrathegreat
by on Feb. 3, 2013 at 7:02 AM

The only reason I've ever hit my dogs is if they bite, and that's more of an immediate reaction than an actual plan.  Since I've become a groomer, I've had to curb that tendency too.  People don't take kindly to a groomer hitting little Precious, no matter that the dogs teeth are embedded in your flesh and you're bleeding copiously. 


LCG83
by Bronze Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 7:05 AM
I find that stomping my foot and saying no in a very intimidating voice usually works. Sometimes I will stick them outside or in another room if I'm too frustrated with them.
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lancet98
by Silver Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 7:45 AM
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No, I do not think dogs benefit from physical discipline, I think that 'physical discipline' is the excuse of the incompetent trainer, and I've competed and trained many dogs successfully,  for many many years and there is a better way to do things.  

And I would NEVER leave cat litter or cat food ANYWHERE where a dog could even possibly get at it, both are too much of a risk and can do a lot of damage to a dog.  The cat's food and litter pan can be in a crate with the door latched so the cats can get in but not the dog.  If the dog is 'sneaking' some once in a while you can bet it's eating more of it when it's loose in the house 8-12 hrs a day while you're gone.

 I think using a 'crop' (it's a whip, face it, it's not a 'crop') on them betrays a very bad dog trainer, and is a disgusting display of a lack of self control.   In addition, disciplining a dog after the deed is a stupid waste of energy and just a way of having some living thing to beat on instead of learning how to do things properly.  

 If you don't want your dog to eat something, don't leave it out, or don't leave the dog loose in the house for so many hours with nothing to do, put it in a crate during the time that you're too lazy to keep an eye on the dog and attempt to not have the dog in a crate all the time as well (for god's sake).  And don't blame the dog for your own laziness and incompetence at training.

Taking your own frustrations out on a living thing is called abuse, whether it is a dog or a child.   And beating on a dog is just being in training for beating on a kid.   Don't do it.

Oh yeah, it's just one smack on the butt.   That's all, wouldn't hurt a fly, just scaring him.   And SCARING an animal does not equal TRAINING IT.   Try spending that time taking the dog for a walk instead, and find something else to take out your frustrations on, like making bread or something.

irishgal63
by Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM

  depending  on  the  offense = 1  swat  to  the  butt, NEVER  to  the  head  ! (also, first, raising  my  voice,

  (&  then  the  swat) .

SunshneDaydream
by Silver Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Absolutely, but it has to be the same kind of physical discipline that dogs inflict on each other within the pack in nature.  They will respond to their natural instincts.  It's very important for us to understand the psychology of our furry family  members. 

survivorinohio
by René on Feb. 3, 2013 at 12:01 PM

The crop I had was basically a stick with 2 pieces of padded leather on the end which made a loud clacking sound on impact.  I have never caused a dog to yelp with that crop but without it I would never have stopped hundreds of dog fights.  I owned 5 dalmatians and 3 rotts at the time and didnt want them to injure each other.  The crop was not a whip and it was effective in stopping the fights and keeping me at a safe distance.


Quoting lancet98:

No, I do not think dogs benefit from physical discipline, I think that 'physical discipline' is the excuse of the incompetent trainer, and I've competed and trained many dogs successfully,  for many many years and there is a better way to do things.  

And I would NEVER leave cat litter or cat food ANYWHERE where a dog could even possibly get at it, both are too much of a risk and can do a lot of damage to a dog.  The cat's food and litter pan can be in a crate with the door latched so the cats can get in but not the dog.  If the dog is 'sneaking' some once in a while you can bet it's eating more of it when it's loose in the house 8-12 hrs a day while you're gone.

 I think using a 'crop' (it's a whip, face it, it's not a 'crop') on them betrays a very bad dog trainer, and is a disgusting display of a lack of self control.   In addition, disciplining a dog after the deed is a stupid waste of energy and just a way of having some living thing to beat on instead of learning how to do things properly.  

 If you don't want your dog to eat something, don't leave it out, or don't leave the dog loose in the house for so many hours with nothing to do, put it in a crate during the time that you're too lazy to keep an eye on the dog and attempt to not have the dog in a crate all the time as well (for god's sake).  And don't blame the dog for your own laziness and incompetence at training.

Taking your own frustrations out on a living thing is called abuse, whether it is a dog or a child.   And beating on a dog is just being in training for beating on a kid.   Don't do it.

Oh yeah, it's just one smack on the butt.   That's all, wouldn't hurt a fly, just scaring him.   And SCARING an animal does not equal TRAINING IT.   Try spending that time taking the dog for a walk instead, and find something else to take out your frustrations on, like making bread or something.


How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


LavenderMom23
by Bronze Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM
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Occasionally, yes. I am a certified dog trainer and we are not taught to use physical spankings on dogs. However, when my husky attacked my cat and had my cat completely in her mouth, I gave a firm kick to her gut just beneath the rib cage. When hunting instincts kick in, treats are not going to be distracting.

Carpy
by Ruby Member on Feb. 3, 2013 at 1:41 PM
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You have to catch them in the act and administer punishment at that time, otherwise they do not know why they are being punished, and yes I have spanked my dogs.

Jers.
by on Feb. 3, 2013 at 6:57 PM

You don't know much about dogs, do you?!

frogbender
by Captain Underpants on Feb. 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Nah, I don't have a dog. They are not my favorite animal.

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