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Wife Beating In Islam, No More Than 10 Blows!

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Maybe one day women will be able to have basic human rights. Do you think it can happen or do you think customs that are older than dirt will continue forever? 

by on Feb. 4, 2013 at 7:19 PM
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stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Yes they are and you should know better.  Their big thing is translating to encourage understanding?  Well why are they regularly caught mistranslating?

Quoting futureshock:


Quoting stacymomof2:

Do you know that MEMRI is a hate group?  I think it's odd that a prof would be showing videos from a hate group.  

MEMRI has been caught by reputable organizations mistranslating and selectively editing videos.  

History

According to its website, founded in February 1998 by former/current Israeli intelligence officers "to inform the debate over U.S. policy in the Middle East, MEMRI is an independent. MEMRI's headquarters is located in Washington, DC with branch offices in Berlin, London, and Jerusalem, where MEMRI also maintains its Media Center. MEMRI research is translated to English, German, Hebrew, Italian, French, Spanish, Turkish, and Russian."

MEMRI's stance is that it is opposed to Islamic fundamentalism, not Islam itself, although the integrity of this position may be questioned because of links on MEMRI's website to certain evangelical Christian organizations who take a harder line on Islam. Yigal Carmon, MEMRI's founder, is a former advisor on terrorism to the Israeli Prime Ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin, so he actually worked for both Labor and Likud governments.

MEMRI has gained currency with most pro-Israel writers, as well as right-wing publications. For example, New York Times writer Thomas Friedman, an influential foreign affairs columnist, has used MEMRI translations a number of times in his columns. MEMRI is cited in several publications, such as The Times, The Washington Times, The Weekly Standard, The Jerusalem Post, The National Review, The Toronto Sun, Wall Street Journal, Libertad, FrontPageMagazine, Columbia Journalism Review, Associated Press, etc. [4]

Threatening Critics

In November 2004, MEMRI threatened Middle East scholar Juan Cole (Univ. of Michigan) with a SLAPP lawsuit unless he retracted some of his claims.[5]

Nature of the charges pace Cole:

"Colonel Carmon's letter makes three charges: 1) that I alleged that MEMRI receives $60 million a year for its operations. 2) That I alleged that MEMRI cherry-picks the vast Arab press for articles that make the Arabs look bad. 3) That I said that MEMRI was affiliated with the Likud Party."

Cole replies:

  1. I think he would find that in democratic countries, in any case, a dispute over an organization's level of funding would be laughed out of court as a basis for a libel action. In fact, I am giggling as I write this.
  2. "I continue to maintain that MEMRI is selective and biased against the Arab press, and that it highlights pieces that cast Arabs, especially committed Muslims, in a negative light."
  3. "I did not allege that MEMRI or Colonel Carmon are "affiliated" with the Likud Party. What I said was that MEMRI functions as a PR campaign for Likud Party goals."

Issues of reliability and veracity

MEMRI is operated by a group closely associated with the Israeli intelligence organizations. Now, in an article in Haaretz, we find that the Israeli Army has sought to plant stories about "terrorism" in the press, and

"Psychological warfare officers were in touch with Israeli journalists covering the Arab world, gave them translated articles from Arab papers (which were planted by the [Israel Defense Forces] IDF) and pressed the Israeli reporters to publish the same news here." --Amos Harel, IDF reviving psychological warfare unit, Haaretz, January 25, 2005.

This should raise a question or two about the reliability and veracity of the stories peddled by MEMRI.

This is what Prof. Juan Cole had to say about this:

"So is MEMRI, which translates articles from the Arabic press into English for thousands of US subscribers, in any way involved in all this? Its director formerly served in… Israeli military intelligence. How much of what we "know" from "Arab sources" about "Hizbullah terrorism" was simply made up by this fantasy factory in Tel Aviv?
As someone who reads the Arabic press quite a lot, this sort of revelation is extremely disturbing.
I also saw an allegation that British military intelligence had planted stories in the US press about Saddam's Iraq.
You begin to wonder how much of what you think you know is just propaganda manufactured by some bored colonel. No wonder post-Baath Iraq looks nothing like what we were led to to expect by the press, including the Arab press!" [6]

Another assessment:

If you rely on MEMRI for your knowledge of Arab discourse, you are really not informed. Arab public opinion, based on MEMRI's releases, is reduced or caricatured to either Bin Laden fans or Bushfans, while Arab public opinion is mosty a fan of neither people. --As'ad AbuKhalil[7]
Although widely used in the mainstream media as a source of information on the Arab world, it is as trustworthy as Julius Streicher's Der Sturmer was on the Jewish world. --Norman Finkelstein [8]

Wafa Sultan

Los Angeles based Syrian/American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan appeared on an al-Jazeera television show opposite Dr. Ibrahim al-Khouly, a lecturer at Cairo's Al-Azhar University. Memri offered a heavily edited version of the show, and mistranslated several of the exchanges, making it appear that al-Khouly had issued a death fatwa against Sultan. Wafa Sultan became known as someone who had her life threatened because of her "Clash of Civilizations" point of view.

It turns out that Sultan had appeared on a daytime al Jazeera show, roughly equivalent to Jerry Springer, that Western Educated Dr. Ibrahim al-Khouly had not issued a fatwa, and as he is not a recognized Mufti, had he issued a fatwa, it would not be considered in any way, authoritarian.

A secularist blog covering topics broadly related to MENA, named Aqoul, took a tape of the whole show, and translated it, making it available in a PDF file: Transcript Translation: al-Jazeera - The Opposite Direction (26/02/2006). Posts on Aqoul, as well as one on the Winds of Change blog offer a great deal of insight into the distortions:

Quoting greenie63:

This was from a conversation I had with one of my professors today. We were discussing human rights and should they apply to everyone, which we  responded of course. Well then he showed us these 2 videos. This is real and not bashing, it's really happening. The question is how can it stop or will it? 

Quoting punky3175:

Wow - it really is Muslim bashing week up in here.



They certainly are not are not a hate group and they serve a very valuable function, for example:

http://www.memri.org/report/en/print6892.htm



LindaClement
by Thatwoman on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Except children.

Feel free to hit your own children at your leisure.

Quoting batmansgirl:

There's many ridiculous old laws on the books but what trumps that "old" law is that today it's illegal to beat anyone in the US and you will be prosecuted

Quoting Ladybugmama86:

 Did you know that in GA (savannah) you can beat your wife on Sunday on the courthouse steps, as long as you beat her with a rod no bigger then your thumb? Its in the citys rules.

But I do feel very bad for these women, but all islamic women are treated like dirt and a lot of muslim women that I have known.... It is very sad.



stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:31 PM

I found some Christian teachings with scripture quoted:

A Christian Wife is to Obey Her Husband in EVERY THING!

by David J. Stewart

"And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not." —John 8:45

       Some people just can't stand to be told the truth. A woman wrote me this week, upset over my article A Woman's Role In Marriage. She just couldn't stand to hear the truth that a wife is to be subject unto her husband in EVERYTHING. In the article, I quote Pastor Curtis Hutson (1935-1995, faithful pastor and longtime editor of the Sword of the Lord) as saying...

    The Holy Spirit says, "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ. so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing."
   She says, "In every thing?"
   "Yes, every thing."
   I made a mistake as a young pastor that I corrected later. I told a lady, when her husband told her not to go to church, "You just tell him you are going to church anyway. You are going to live for God." I gave her unscriptural advice. You are to be to your husband what the church is to Christ--submissive, obedient.
   It is like buttoning up a shirt--if you get one button right, you get the rest right. If you get your role right and keep it right, no matter how much pressure comes--and you can believe there is going to be pressure--it will work out right. A preacher once said, "Do good and it will be good."

I couldn't agree more with Dr. Hutson, and I thank God for his candor in these necessary words. Well, the woman was upset over the Biblical teaching that wives are to obey their husband in EVERY THING! ... "Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing" (Ephesians 5:24). 

She argued that a wife doesn't have to obey her husband if he's wrong. In fact, she is wrong. We're talking about obedience here. Some people beat around the bush and allege that being "subject" or being "submissive" is not the same as being "obedient"; HOWEVER, the Bible eliminates all such speculation by associating a wife's obedience with that of the Church obeying Jesus Christ. It would be absurd for anyone to say that the church should be subject to Christ, and submit to Christ, but does not have to necessarily obey Christ. 

I know a pastor, who's name you'd almost certainly know if I mentioned him, who teaches this exact heresy (i.e., that wives are to submit to their husbands, but not obey). Oh really? Evidently he's never read 1st Peter 3:6... "Even as Sara OBEYED Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement." The Bible commands wives to obey their husbands in EVERYTHING!!!

Dr. John R. Rice (1895-1980), founder of the Sword of the Lord, author of over 200 helpful Christian books and pamphlets, pastor, and founder of dozens of churches sternly states...


IN EVERY THING”
 

“Why does not the Bible limit a wife's obedience to her husband? Why does the Scripture not say, as many wish it did say, that a wife should be subject to her husband as long as he is right and true to the Bible? Or why does it not say, as Mrs. Goforth interprets it in How I Know God Answers Prayer, that a wife should be subject to her husband in all matters but spiritual matters? But that is not what the Bible commands. Rather the Bible says, 'Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord,' that is, as unto Jesus Christ, and so of course in complete submission. And again, 'Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing' (Eph. 5:22,24).”

SOURCE: Success-Prone Christians, by Dr. John R. Rice; chapter 2; pg. 44,45

The Bible commands wives to OBEY their own husband (1st Peter 3:1-5). To teach anything else is rebellion against the Scriptures. Dr. Curtis Hutson and Dr. Rice are 100% correct. Ephesians 5:24 plainly states that a wife is to be subject (Greek, hupotasso, meaning, TO OBEY, to put in subjection under) to her own husband, just as she would to Jesus Christ. 
 

Feminism is an Evil Communist Agenda

Feminism has corrupted America's wives, which is why women file for divorce TWICE as much as men. Divorce is a wicked sin of self-righteous hypocrisy. It is evil. In filing for divorce, you are quitting, breaking you're marriage vows before God, and saying that your are not as big a sinner as your spouse; but you are my friend, and in filing for divorce you are committing a sin that perpetuates for a lifetime. You just may be the bigger sinner in God's eyes. You have the LUMBER BEAM in your eye, condemning your spouse by filing for divorce for the TOOTHPICK in their eye.

Every wife who divorces her husband is saying to God... "I refuse to obey my husband and I don't care, and because I am a self-righteous hypocrite, I am focusing on all his faults and divorcing him." There were NO disclaimers in your wedding vows. You promised... "for better for worse, 'til death do is part." I don't care what sin your spouse commits, it may be grounds to leave, but it is NEVER grounds for divorce Biblically. Jesus said to forgive not 7, but 70 times 7 (Matthew 18:22). Divorce is unforgiveness! To forgive after divorce is not acceptable to God, because now you have destroyed your spouse's life and must give account to God. God has promised NOT to show any mercy toward you on judgment Day, because you didn't shew any mercy toward your spouse. You have defrauded and wronged your Christian brother or sister. You are in trouble with the Lord. You may remarry and think you have done the right thing, just as women who have had abortions think they've done the right thing, just as homosexuals who have legally married think they've done the right thing; but they are all shameless, unrepentant, arrogant, wicked sinners in trouble with the Lord.

Feminism is a New World Order Communist agenda, engineered by the demonic Rockefeller slime-ball family, intended to subvert and destroy America's families. Hell will be hot! Communism is a vehicle created by the buttheads behind the New World Order (NWO), which is simply the homogenization of the world's economies, religions, courts, governments and languages. It's all preparing the way for the coming man of sin, the Antichrist. Communism is the tool, a vehicle, by which they corrupt and destroy families, thus weakening the nation as a whole and rendering us slaves to the coming Police State NWO.

Godless heathens always try to justify their sins. Just as those who file for divorce, murderous abortionists are always trying to justify murdering children by abortion. The truth is that there's NOT ONE recorded incident of a mother terminating her pregnancy with a coat-hanger; but that's the issue they always bring up, desperately grasping for straws because they can't find any legitimate reasons to kill another human being. Abortionists are a bunch of liars who greatly exaggerate and distort the facts in order to ease their conscience about murdering children! You know as well as I do that of the 50,000,000 babies murdered by abortion in the U.S., nearly all of them were conceived through consensual fornication.

Using the same twisted and dishonest mentality as the abortionists, feminists today demonize husbands, distort statistics, spew hypocritical claims of domestic violence and abuse, and brainwash wives into filing for divorce. We are bombarded with domestic abuse advertisements everywhere we turn; but you'll NEVER hear one single mention of the wife's role in a marriage. Ever seen any ads saying, "Obey your husband, he's worth it!" No, it's always, "Get out now while you still can." Feminists are a bunch of dirty she-devils! God thinks you are trash by the way. Anyone who works to break apart families is trash in God's eyes. God is angry with you and in eternity you will be very sorry, if not rotting in the flames of Hell forever. All of the lawyers, judges, attorney generals and evil CPS workers who work together to destroy families will be severally punished in eternity. If you don't believe that, then you don't believe the Bible. Psalm 9:17 says that the wicked shall be turned into Hell.

America's Godless Communist society portrays men as abusers, women as victims, and children as belonging to the State. God hates that type of wicked agenda. Police nationwide have been brainwashed in their training to be intolerant, militarized, using ruthless force against families. On the other front, sinful women sit around watching the heathen television (hellivision), being brainwashed that men are all not to be trusted, that all men are the same, deceitful. Women are being lied to by the jerks on television. Consequently, wives have become INTOLERANT of their husbands, ready to dial 911 if a husband even yells at his wife.

And then the thug police, many of whom are feminist trained women, bring out the cavalry ready to do war, kicking the poor guys front door down, doing a police raid on the home, shooting the family dog, terrorizing the family... all because some wife was stupid enough to listen TO THER PEOPLE (you know, like Eve listened to the evil snake in the Garden of Eden). The snake promised Eve a better life, just as the jerks who talk your wife into divorcing you. In reality, she ends up on section-8 housing and government welfare. Liars! Liars! Liars! They all go their merry way like the evil snake (Satan, Revelation 20:2), never to be heard from again, the damage is done and another family is destroyed!

It's utterly hypocritical.  Feminists won't dare talk about the wife who doesn't want to cook, clean, be a mother, or fulfil her wifely obligations.  The truth about America's skyrocketing divorce rate is that 90% of all divorces are NOT caused by domestic abuse; but rather, by rebellious wives with bad attitudes.  Now I'm not defending any husbands who file for divorce, shame on them; however, many American women today have spoiled brat attitudes that are driving their husbands away.  When God created Eve, He gave her to Adam, and her sole purpose for existence was to serve and to help her husband (Genesis 2:18).  Now how does that compare to the attitudes and goals of most wives today?  Carefully notice that God did NOT create Eve to do anything for God!!!  Rather, Eve's sole purpose in creation was to help her husband.  Extremely FEW wives today are willing to accept their Biblical role in marriage.  It is the hardness of women's hearts today that is causing so much divorce (Matthew 19:8). 

Get mad at me if you want, I'm going to speak the truth of God's Word.  So you're really angry at God.  Women are to remain quiet in church (1st Corinthians 14:34), women are not allowed to teach or lead men (1st Timothy 2:12), women are forbidden from wearing pants or miniskirts (1st Timothy 2:9), women are to bare children and guide the home (1st Timothy 5:14), and women are to obey their husband in EVERY THING (Ephesians 5:24).

Sadly, Communism has infected Christian homes as well through secular television, music, movies, public schools, et cetera. Unless you live in a log cabin out away from modern civilization, you cannot escape the decadence, plunder and corruption of U.S. society. You cannot even walk through a shopping mall anymore because Victoria's Secret is no longer a secret, it's in everyone's faces in shopping malls all across America. God is not blessing this spiritual mess! You're insane if you think God is going to bless this wicked nation. So why even sing the song? I cannot! I want God to punish America, because we have already proven that we are stubborn and hard-hearted against THE TRUTH of God's Word. We are on a one-way ride to Hell because of our selfishness, wickedness and rebellion against God. I pray for God to bring evil upon America, to teach us a lesson and then, maybe, just maybe, some of us will repent toward God and do what's righteous. 
 

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Feminism/everything.htm
stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Here's pat Robertson who makes a bigoted comment and advocates wife beating in the same conversation:

A viewer named Michael wrote into "The 700 Club" on Monday to ask Robertson for advice about his wife who, he said, "has no respect for me as the head of the house" and "even went as far as stretching her hand to beat me."

"Well, you could become a Muslim — then you could beat her," Robertson said.

Robertson's co-host Terry Meeuwsen responded with a chuckle. "But in lieu of that?" she prompted him.

"I think this man's gotta stand up to her and he can't let her get away with this stuff," Robertson said. "I don't think we condone wife-beating these days but something's got to be done."



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/days-appearing-romney-pat-robertson-jokes-beating-rebellious-wife-article-1.1156959#ixzz2K4g6jPop
stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Here is the very famous Chuck Reagan, a Christian with a website who is advocating wife beating.

Over the last several weeks, some ‘concerned’ readers sent sporadic emails to our intern staff about a column where we discussed the tendency of wives to get a bit loquacious at inappropriate moments, and how a good husband may go about politely handling a sassy woman.

I forwarded the following suggestion to the community:

“…sometimes in marriage the grave and solemn responsibility to politely tell the wife to be quiet and stay in her place falls upon every husband.

Being fickle and temperamental, women do not always respond to gentle words so at times a swift, backhanded slap across the face must be applied to them. This usually gets their attention and sets order straight.”

Now, I expressed the seriousness of such a situation and indicated that when cause arises, where a man must put an uppity feminist acting wife in her place, that the actions should be loving, kind and swift; much like the wrath of God when he warns you to stop sinning.

Unfortunately, some liberals out there got the wrong idea and suggested that I promoted some form of sot-ridden domestic abuse, one even having the audacity to suggest I’m ‘a drunk barbarian hick masquerading under the guise of educated morality’.

There is nothing drunk or barbaric about God’s law.

http://christwire.org/2009/04/is-it-ok-for-a-christian-husband-to-gently-beat-his-wife/

Shlamoof
by New Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM

The one muslim family I know, the wife is treated wonderfully.  But I do only know of one.

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Here is something called familyradio.com which is telling abused women that they are sinning if they leave their absusers, because they are responsible for saving their sinning husband.

In these verses God indicates that it is our mission in life to bear patiently the injustices, the revilings, and the abuse of those who rule over us. We are not to revile in return. We are to realize that God has called us to walk in the footsteps of our Lord. We are to realize that God has called us to walk in the footsteps of our Lord. We are to look to Him as our example, and the abuse He endured included His death on the cross.

    In the opening verses of I Peter 3 God ties the admonishments of I Peter 2 to the wife who is married to an unsaved husband. The Bible exhorts in I Peter 3:1-5:

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let if be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands.

    The important word "likewise" in verse 1 ties these verses of Chapter 3 to the instruction given in Chapter 2. Effectively, God is exhorting: "Even as the servant of a cruel master is to patiently endure abuse, so, too, the wife who is married to a cruel husband is to patiently ensure abuse." Verse 1 of Chapter 3 emphasizes that the husband in this case does not obey the Word. That is, he is in rebellion against God. He pays no attention to God’s rules which declare that the husband is to love his wife and forgive her repeatedly.

    The word "likewise" also implies that he, like the master of I Peter 2, may be unjust, cruel, and a tyrant in the home. Human reason might conclude that with this condition in the home, the wife has every right to separate from her husband because no one should have to live under such unhappy, difficult conditions.

    God has a different answer. The word "divorce" is not to be a part of the wife’s vocabulary. She must make it her business to love her husband as God commands. Because God always wants the best for the human race, God’s laws are the only trustworthy rules to follow. God declares she is to be quietly submissive to her difficult husband.

http://www.familyradio.com/graphical/literature/joined/joined_08.html

stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Well I could continue forever.  Here are several sources saying that Christian men have a right to beat their wives and the wives have no recourse, that they should show their submission to their husbands and stay with them as God says they should.

So I think we can all conclude, since the things I quoted directly quote Biblical passages, that Christian men are allowed to beat their wife and the women are not allowed to divorce them.  At least in Islam women can leave their husband any time they wish with the support of the Quar'an.  Well I'm glad we straightened that out.

britt6
by Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM


Hmmm, Well your miles of diatribe here honestly have me confused. I myself am a Christian and have never been taught anything out of context before. I am sure people of the Muslim faith could say the same thing. I could quote you many many verses as well, out of the Bible that tell of how a husband is to treat his wife.

Quoting stacymomof2:

Here is something called familyradio.com which is telling abused women that they are sinning if they leave their absusers, because they are responsible for saving their sinning husband.

In these verses God indicates that it is our mission in life to bear patiently the injustices, the revilings, and the abuse of those who rule over us. We are not to revile in return. We are to realize that God has called us to walk in the footsteps of our Lord. We are to realize that God has called us to walk in the footsteps of our Lord. We are to look to Him as our example, and the abuse He endured included His death on the cross.

    In the opening verses of I Peter 3 God ties the admonishments of I Peter 2 to the wife who is married to an unsaved husband. The Bible exhorts in I Peter 3:1-5:

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let if be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands.

    The important word "likewise" in verse 1 ties these verses of Chapter 3 to the instruction given in Chapter 2. Effectively, God is exhorting: "Even as the servant of a cruel master is to patiently endure abuse, so, too, the wife who is married to a cruel husband is to patiently ensure abuse." Verse 1 of Chapter 3 emphasizes that the husband in this case does not obey the Word. That is, he is in rebellion against God. He pays no attention to God’s rules which declare that the husband is to love his wife and forgive her repeatedly.

    The word "likewise" also implies that he, like the master of I Peter 2, may be unjust, cruel, and a tyrant in the home. Human reason might conclude that with this condition in the home, the wife has every right to separate from her husband because no one should have to live under such unhappy, difficult conditions.

    God has a different answer. The word "divorce" is not to be a part of the wife’s vocabulary. She must make it her business to love her husband as God commands. Because God always wants the best for the human race, God’s laws are the only trustworthy rules to follow. God declares she is to be quietly submissive to her difficult husband.

http://www.familyradio.com/graphical/literature/joined/joined_08.html



stacymomof2
by Ruby Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM

It's not MY diatribe.  It is from a website called "familyradio.com" (linked at the bottom.)  It is explaining that abused women are to be submissive to their husbands and not leave them.  It is their responsibility to God to stay.  It uses scripture to back this up.

I made the quoted part red, I see that it is unclear where I stop talking and the quoting starts.

Quoting britt6:


Hmmm, Well your miles of diatribe here honestly have me confused. I myself am a Christian and have never been taught anything out of context before. I am sure people of the Muslim faith could say the same thing. I could quote you many many verses as well, out of the Bible that tell of how a husband is to treat his wife.

Quoting stacymomof2:

Here is something called familyradio.com which is telling abused women that they are sinning if they leave their absusers, because they are responsible for saving their sinning husband.

In these verses God indicates that it is our mission in life to bear patiently the injustices, the revilings, and the abuse of those who rule over us. We are not to revile in return. We are to realize that God has called us to walk in the footsteps of our Lord. We are to realize that God has called us to walk in the footsteps of our Lord. We are to look to Him as our example, and the abuse He endured included His death on the cross.

    In the opening verses of I Peter 3 God ties the admonishments of I Peter 2 to the wife who is married to an unsaved husband. The Bible exhorts in I Peter 3:1-5:

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let if be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands.

    The important word "likewise" in verse 1 ties these verses of Chapter 3 to the instruction given in Chapter 2. Effectively, God is exhorting: "Even as the servant of a cruel master is to patiently endure abuse, so, too, the wife who is married to a cruel husband is to patiently ensure abuse." Verse 1 of Chapter 3 emphasizes that the husband in this case does not obey the Word. That is, he is in rebellion against God. He pays no attention to God’s rules which declare that the husband is to love his wife and forgive her repeatedly.

    The word "likewise" also implies that he, like the master of I Peter 2, may be unjust, cruel, and a tyrant in the home. Human reason might conclude that with this condition in the home, the wife has every right to separate from her husband because no one should have to live under such unhappy, difficult conditions.

    God has a different answer. The word "divorce" is not to be a part of the wife’s vocabulary. She must make it her business to love her husband as God commands. Because God always wants the best for the human race, God’s laws are the only trustworthy rules to follow. God declares she is to be quietly submissive to her difficult husband.

http://www.familyradio.com/graphical/literature/joined/joined_08.html




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