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Should churches, pastors, or judges be sued for not wanting to perform a wedding ceremony?

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Apply any reason why this person chooses not do it.

Should people be able to force them to perform a ceremony?

by on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:18 PM
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IntactivistMama
by on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM
Judges should follow the law. Period.


Quoting talia-mom:

Even if they are not required to do it.?




Quoting IntactivistMama:

Bible thumpers: no



Judges should get into trouble though.





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talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM

You haven't read a bunch of lawsuits if you think you can't be sued for something you did not say but something the person things you believe or did.


Quoting Sekirei:

Depends. Did they go through everything and then decide not to when they saw the couple?

or did they say no before seeing the couple with no reason given?

First one, yes.

second one, no. 

If the judge is against the unions, fine, as long as he doesn't use it as a soapbox moment. Or attempt to embarrass the hell out of them. You can't accuse them of something if they don't say it. 

Quoting talia-mom:

What if they are not required to perform them?


Quoting Sekirei:

Churches or Pastors.. no

Judges, oui






talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM

That doesn't answer the question I asked.   If a judge is not required to perform the ceremony but can choose to perform it, should the judge be sued if they turn down the ceremony for whatever reason they want?


Quoting IntactivistMama:

Judges should follow the law. Period.


Quoting talia-mom:

Even if they are not required to do it.?




Quoting IntactivistMama:

Bible thumpers: no



Judges should get into trouble though.







Aslen
by Silver Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:51 PM
Churches? No.
Judges? Yes. Theyre employed by.the state
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VintageWife
by on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Why would someone even want to go into an establishment (like a church) that doesn't believe in the same things they do and demand that?!? Of course pastors (religious figures) shouldn't be able to be sued for following their religion...lol

motha2daDuchess
by Bruja on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM
i think churches and that no, but judges are supposed to be impartial so they should do it and stfu,
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Aslen
by Silver Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:52 PM
Because the laws of the state supercede personal feelings. When a judge becomes a judge, they swear to uphold the laws of their state.


Quoting talia-mom:

That doesn't answer the question I asked.   If a judge is not required to perform the ceremony but can choose to perform it, should the judge be sued if they turn down the ceremony for whatever reason they want?



Quoting IntactivistMama:

Judges should follow the law. Period.





Quoting talia-mom:

Even if they are not required to do it.?





Quoting IntactivistMama:

Bible thumpers: no





Judges should get into trouble though.











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SRUsarahSC
by Bronze Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

churches and pastors, no. Judges, yes. They are public officials.

Pink.Frosting
by on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Preachers are generally paid for their services in a wedding.  If they don't want to marry someone because of a personal conviction, they don't have to take the job.  No one can force them to.  Perhaps it's different for a judge, I don't know.  But for a preacher, it's a voluntary service.  They can do what they want.

talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM

That doesn't answer the question of should they have to perform one if they aren't required by state law to do that.


Quoting Aslen:

Because the laws of the state supercede personal feelings. When a judge becomes a judge, they swear to uphold the laws of their state.


Quoting talia-mom:

That doesn't answer the question I asked.   If a judge is not required to perform the ceremony but can choose to perform it, should the judge be sued if they turn down the ceremony for whatever reason they want?



Quoting IntactivistMama:

Judges should follow the law. Period.





Quoting talia-mom:

Even if they are not required to do it.?





Quoting IntactivistMama:

Bible thumpers: no





Judges should get into trouble though.













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