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Chicago police no longer responding to all 911 calls

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Chicago police no longer responding to all 911 calls

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To free up more officers to deal with the most serious crimes, 911 dispatchers will no longer send officers to attend calls deemed less pressing.

 

Chicago police are no longer responding in person to 911 calls reporting vehicle theft, garage burglary or simple assault in a change aimed at freeing up officers to deal with more serious crimes.

According to a report in the Chicago Sun-Times, the change came into effect on Sunday and also covers crime where the victim is "safe, secure and not in need of medical attention" and the offender is "not on the scene and not expected to return immediately."

Chicago authorities are hoping the change frees up more officers to attend to the most serious crimes, such as serious assaults and murders.

Instead of sending officers, 911 dispatchers have been told to transfer the calls to the Chicago Police Department’s Alternate Response Section, which is staffed by officers on light duty.

In 2012, the Alternate Response Section dealt with 74,000 reports. Victims of crime had the choice of filing a report over the phone or requesting that an officer attend in person when one was available. That number of reports is expected to double, but the choice of asking for an officer to attend will no longer be available.

The change is expected to free up the equivalent of 44 officers a day.

Dispatchers have reportedly been told to transfer calls if "the offender is gone, not expected to 'return immediately' and an officer is not needed for a prompt investigation; an officer on the scene would 'not result in an immediate arrest'; and the victim is safe, secure and not in need of medical attention."

The Sun-Times goes on to quote Chicago Deputy Chief-of-Patrol Steve Georgas, who said police forces throughout the United States are looking for ways to become more efficient.

"This is just a little piece that we think is going to help us in keeping cops up and free for patrol work. I don’t think we're looking for huge gains. It's probably only going to equate to 40 to 45 officers a watch," he said.

Georgas added that he did not think the change will be difficult for residents to get used to.

"It's a traumatic thing being the victim of a crime. This will be a little more convenient for them as well," he said. "They're still getting police service from a sworn police officer. But it's over the phone, and it's only in certain situations. Those officers are trained in what to ask. If certain things come up, they'll be able to transfer that back over to dispatch, and we'll immediately send an officer out."

However, some Chicago aldermen suggested the changes will prove difficult to accept for crime victims.

"I can understand if it's [to report] somebody spray-painted my trash can. But people want to see an officer when it gets up to a certain level of crime. They're setting the bar pretty high for police not to respond," said Alderman Scott Waguespack.

"When you're talking about someone's garage being broken into and you've had three or four neighbors with the same thing, people have an expectation of having an officer on location to assess the situation," he said. "If no officer shows up, they're going to assume it's going to keep happening. They'll feel this is scaling back even more. There'll be a lot of people angry."

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by on Feb. 7, 2013 at 7:36 AM
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gammie
by on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:38 AM
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When they took the guns away was the whole point that the the crime was suppose to drop?

 Why is a Democrat areas have the most crime?

Mommy_of_Riley
by Jes on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Lots of towns do this...

911 is for EMERGENCIES.
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futureshock
by Ruby Member on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:40 AM


Quoting UpSheRises:

That almost like Detroit except our police don't necessarily respond to serious crimes either.

Remember the story a few years ago where someone called to report finding a dead body in an abandoned building? No one showed up so they called the news. The news called the police and it took them an additional 2 days. 3 days that body sat there...

Wow, that is horrible!!!

mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:40 AM
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Only certain parts. I've lived here my entire life. I have never lived anywhere else. My parents and grandparents were also born and raised here. The south and west sides are crime ridden because those areas are deeply impoverished and underdeveloped. There was a fire in the 1960s that took down a good portion of a south side neighborhood. The burned out buildings are still there. I've seen them. 

The northside is relitively safe. Murder is almost unheard of on the north and northwest sides. 

This new policy will only apply if no one is in any danger. After the asshole ran off, I was no longer in danger so there was no need to call the police. 

What I want to know is if this policy will only affect the crime ridden areas. In November of 2012, a guy high off his ass crashed into my dad's parked car in front of our house. We called 911 and it seemed like every cop in the 17th district showed up. It was late at night so maybe they had nothing better to do. This is a quiet area. But 6 cop cars, 2 fire trucks and an ambulance seemed a bit overkill. 

We don't know what happened to the kid who crashed into my dad's car. He was a teenager from a northern suburb who took his parents car for a joy ride. He probably came into the city to buy drugs. That happens a great deal as well. Weathly white kids come into the city to buy coke and weed and heroin. 

Quoting SuperJo:

What happened to you might not be what happened to someone else. Police are supposed to protect and serve, not pick and choose. I think this is a bad move as Chicago is a notoriously dangerous city a lot of times.
Quoting mehamil1:

My dad's car has been stolen a number of times. We don't bother to call the police. We go to the station and report it. There is no need to call and expect an officer to come out when we can go to the station and file the report. The police have better things to do. I was assaulted in October of 2011. I didn't call the police because the fuck face ran off after I dented his head with my elbow. I went to the station to report it. 

Our home has never been broken into. Probably because we have a giant black dog. 

If the crime has already been done and the asshole is not around, there is no need to call the police and expect them to show up. We must go to the station to report this stuff after the fact. 

Quoting SuperJo:
A stolen vehicle, burglary, and assault are serious crimes. Unless an officer comes out to assess the situation, the severity level cannot be determined properly. This is a bad, bad move, Chicago. Very bad.
mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Link that claim please. 

Crime happens the most in the most impoverished areas. That has nothing to do with political party since this city is predominantly democratic leaning, even the wealthier areas vote democratic. 

Quoting gammie:

When they took the guns away was the whole point that the the crime was suppose to drop?

 Why is a Democrat areas have the most crime?

candlegal
by Judy on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Now those are the questions of the week.

Quoting gammie:

When they took the guns away was the whole point that the the crime was suppose to drop?

 Why is a Democrat areas have the most crime?


gammie
by on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM
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My experience has been the area's I have lived. Inglewood CA, high in crime and very Democrat. Washington D.C the same, Mississippi, I moved every 3 years so I can go no.


Quoting mehamil1:

Link that claim please. 

Crime happens the most in the most impoverished areas. That has nothing to do with political party since this city is predominantly democratic leaning, even the wealthier areas vote democratic. 

Quoting gammie:

When they took the guns away was the whole point that the the crime was suppose to drop?

 Why is a Democrat areas have the most crime?



ArianEponae
by on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Umm...ok. I actually agree, except not everyone is easily able to go in person. I would not call 911, but I would call the station to report the crime. Its actually preferred by the police officers I've known (uncles, cousins, and a few exes...i like cops) that you call instead of coming in person.

Quoting mehamil1:

I was assaulted right outside my house in October of 2011. I did not call the police. I went to the station to report it. I didn't call because the asshole ran away after I put a dent in his head with my elbow. The off icier at the station took my statement, filed the report, then a very nice female detective came to see me a few days later.

If the asshole is no longer around, there is no point in calling the police. Go to the station and report it. 


Quoting ArianEponae:

They said if the person was no longer present ok the case of assault. If they're still there, an officer will come, but if they've left they won't. So, assault being on the list is fine by me. They can early take the information over the phone. If the criminal returns, they've already got the info and can respond, but if they don't return no harm done by the phone interview...plus, the police already know where the criminal isn't and who to watch for...

Quoting survivorinohio:

I think simple assauly can turn felonious in one swing.  Assault should not be on the list.

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mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM

And it's a bullshit question devoid of logic and reasoning and knowledge of this city and why crime happens in the first place. 

The areas where crime happens the most are the most impoverish areas. Poverty causes crime because people are fighting over very few resources. Alleviate poverty and most crimes go away. The places where there is little poverty have low crime rates. 

This question is also severally lacking in knowledge of this city. The city as a whole leans democratic. Even wealthier areas, like the Gold Coast and Hyde Park and Lincoln Park, vote democratic. This is a blue city. We are democrats here. Republicans exist, but they are few in numbers. 

There, question answered by a life long resident of Chicago. 

Quoting candlegal:

Now those are the questions of the week.

Quoting gammie:

When they took the guns away was the whole point that the the crime was suppose to drop?

 Why is a Democrat areas have the most crime?

pamelax3
by Gold Member on Feb. 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM

I hope this works. 911 should only be for emergencies

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