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Should cops be able to shoot random (Innocent) people? [Not Confirming who they shoot at]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-torrance-shooting-20130209,0,4414028.story

Dorner had a Grey Toyota Tundra. One of the vehicles they shot up was a Blue Toyota Tacoma.

And they didn't accidentally shot one bullet into this innocent civilians truck. I counted 46 (I might be off by one or two).



The second victim of Police shooting also the wrong color and model. And inside a skinny white guy.




And this isn't even the end. The Supsect is a tall (Near 6 feet), black, and 270 lbs.

They have shot at a truck with two Asian mexican ladies. And a truck with a white guy in it.

So unless two asian mexican ladies look like a black guy or a blue truck looks like a gray truck (Differen't model as well) something is clearly wrong here.

Someone made a joke that if you are a tall black man you need to stay inside for a few days. But since we have two asian mexican ladies and a white guy being shot at. It is pretty clear that if cops are around you are in danger (If you are in southern california at the moment).

Quote:

Two people were struck by gunfire and transported to an area hospital with unknown injuries, Chase said. No officers were injured.

The second incident, which involved Torrance police, occurred at Flagler Lane and Beryl Street about 5:45 a.m. No injuries were reported in that incident.

I agree this guy needs to be stopped. But is shooting 40+ bullets at every shadow that might be him really the best way to "catch" him?

An easy, "Please Come out with your hands up" Would have worked. Those people would have walked out of their vehicles and not been shot. Calling backup and following the vehicles would have worked as well.

Running the license plate numbers would show who they are as well.

This upsets me to no ends.


Normally there is a, "But if you look at it from this point it makes sense" Direction from the action Police perform.

But how do you shoot at the wrong truck 40+ times (That is the wrong color and model number) and they look nothing like the suspect. Or shoot at two asian mexican ladies, or a white guy when you are looking for a 6 foot, 270 lb, black guy?


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If they enforced bank regulations like they do park rules, we wouldn't be in this mess

by on Feb. 7, 2013 at 11:22 PM
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LilyofPhilly
by Gold Member on Feb. 8, 2013 at 8:03 AM
Holy crap! Anyone read Dorner's manifesto?
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lga1965
by Ruby Member on Feb. 8, 2013 at 8:04 AM

 

Quoting mehamil1:

So those cops, even though they are cops, are not good guys with guns?

I will not let those words rest. I want it it to sink into the minds of everyone who reads this, the president of the NRA is the biggest fucking tool that ever was. 

 I agree. He is. Every word that he speaks and writes is garbage and he is corrupting America.

free1
by ~FreeSpirit~ on Feb. 8, 2013 at 8:11 AM

 Oh boy!

brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Feb. 8, 2013 at 8:20 AM
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Sorry not enough information? What would qualify Police shooting at a truck that is the wrong color and model?

The two asian ladies were shot at around 5:00 am while they were on a news paper route delivering papers. Is driving slowly now qualify people to be shot at?

Is having a truck now grounds for cops to shoot at you 40+ times?

Is it now okay for Polica to shoot  40+ times at someone before verifying if the person is who they are after? Before even seeing if the person they are shooting even LOOKS like the person they are after. Is it now okay to shoot 40+ times before even asking the person to surrender or give himself up?

Quoting AMBG825:

 Sorry. Not enough information. Do you have a news source that gives details on the incidents. Preferably not from YouTube.



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If they enforced bank regulations like they do park rules, we wouldn't be in this mess

Whaaaaaa....O.o
by on Feb. 8, 2013 at 8:52 AM
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Quoting LilyofPhilly:




Screw you!!! You have no fucking idea what it is like to live on this side of the line. To pray your loved one comes home safe knowing there is a target on their back. And then to have their department heads hang them up to dry.
To know that you are being followed because your husband stopped a dangerous criminal and their cronies want revenge. You don't know. So yeah, go screw yourself in your little hippy house. I'm done.
AMBG825
by on Feb. 8, 2013 at 8:55 AM
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 No need to be sorry.  There isn't enough information. There is no statement as to why it was actually pulled over and what led up to the events. Just your assessment and opinion of what happened. And quite honestly your opinion of events means nothing to anyone. The assessment of someone who has made it quite clear that they hate everyone who puts on a uniform and badge is not unbiased information. The opinion of someone who doesn't know police procedure or even what laws are is not a credible source of information. And quite frankly someone who can't count higher than 20 without the use of fingers and toes is not a credible source of information.

 

Now if you cite a source that says exactly what you're saying ....one that has both sides of the story (which btw wouldn't be YouTube news) then I'll agree with you that the cops were out of line. But the half baked opinion of an admitted anarchist is not enough information for intelligent people to draw conclusions on.

Quoting brookiecookie87:

 

Sorry not enough information? What would qualify Police shooting at a truck that is the wrong color and model?

The two asian ladies were shot at around 5:00 am while they were on a news paper route delivering papers. Is driving slowly now qualify people to be shot at?

Is having a truck now grounds for cops to shoot at you 40+ times?

Is it now okay for Polica to shoot  40+ times at someone before verifying if the person is who they are after? Before even seeing if the person they are shooting even LOOKS like the person they are after. Is it now okay to shoot 40+ times before even asking the person to surrender or give himself up?

Quoting AMBG825:

 Sorry. Not enough information. Do you have a news source that gives details on the incidents. Preferably not from YouTube.

 

 

 






 

Whaaaaaa....O.o
by on Feb. 8, 2013 at 8:59 AM
Quoting brookiecookie87:


again. The answer is no it is not ok. They did no follow procedure. They will most likely (if things are done as they should) be fired and possibly charged. The victims will sue, and they will win, as they should.
brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Feb. 8, 2013 at 9:04 AM
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Quoting Whaaaaaa....O.o:

Quoting LilyofPhilly:




Screw you!!! You have no fucking idea what it is like to live on this side of the line. To pray your loved one comes home safe knowing there is a target on their back. And then to have their department heads hang them up to dry.
To know that you are being followed because your husband stopped a dangerous criminal and their cronies want revenge. You don't know. So yeah, go screw yourself in your little hippy house. I'm done.

Are you implying that Police ALWAYS do what they are suppose to?

Because that just doesn't make sense. No one is saying all Police Officers are corrupt. No one is saying they Never do anything right.

You do realize the person they are chasing at the moment was not a dangerous criminal (Until he started attacking them) and not some cronie (He was in the Navy and trained with Seals, and was a Police Officer).

He wasn't fired for attacking people, or breaking the law. He reported another Police Officer for excessive violence. He had witnesses. The police officer got off and then they fired him for making a "False Report" and he lost in that as well (Despite he had proof that they were lying).

This isn't some, "Oh the hippies are talking about cops again". Then is a Police Officer who tried to do the right thing, the person got off completely free, and then he got fired for trying to report it.

This guy is indeed dangerous and wants revenge. But he is not a common criminal. And no "cronie". Nor are we "hippies" because we believe Police should identify someone before shooting 40 bullets into the back of a truck-That is the wrong color, model and the people driving look NOTHING like the suspect.

And not doing this once, but twice.

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If they enforced bank regulations like they do park rules, we wouldn't be in this mess

brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Feb. 8, 2013 at 9:11 AM


You are going to make lies up now? I don't hate everyone who puts on a uniform or badge.

I do hate Police Officers who will shoot 40+ Bullets into the back of a truck that is the wrong color, wrong model, and the suspect looks nothing like the people int he truck. I do hate that it can happen twice in one day.

I do hate that a Police Officer who reports excessive violence gets fired while the one who did the violence  keeps his job.

But no-I don't hate Police Officers that are out there doing the right thing.

You can continue to lie if it makes you feel better. But it is not the truth.

There you go with that Youtube News lie again. Please show me one of my post that is based on Youtube. or do you want me to post my last 10 post again and prove to you (Or well everyone else) that you are a liar?

Oh look more lies and attempts at discrediting. I am no anarchist. Just because I don't support corruption and blind servitude does not make me an anarchist.

Do you think that truck shot itself in the back 40+ times? Do you think the two asian ladies deliverying papers looked like a 6 foot tall 270 lb black man?

Quoting AMBG825:

 No need to be sorry.  There isn't enough information. There is no statement as to why it was actually pulled over and what led up to the events. Just your assessment and opinion of what happened. And quite honestly your opinion of events means nothing to anyone. The assessment of someone who has made it quite clear that they hate everyone who puts on a uniform and badge is not unbiased information. The opinion of someone who doesn't know police procedure or even what laws are is not a credible source of information. And quite frankly someone who can't count higher than 20 without the use of fingers and toes is not a credible source of information.

 

Now if you cite a source that says exactly what you're saying ....one that has both sides of the story (which btw wouldn't be YouTube news) then I'll agree with you that the cops were out of line. But the half baked opinion of an admitted anarchist is not enough information for intelligent people to draw conclusions on.

Quoting brookiecookie87:


Sorry not enough information? What would qualify Police shooting at a truck that is the wrong color and model?

The two asian ladies were shot at around 5:00 am while they were on a news paper route delivering papers. Is driving slowly now qualify people to be shot at?

Is having a truck now grounds for cops to shoot at you 40+ times?

Is it now okay for Polica to shoot  40+ times at someone before verifying if the person is who they are after? Before even seeing if the person they are shooting even LOOKS like the person they are after. Is it now okay to shoot 40+ times before even asking the person to surrender or give himself up?

Quoting AMBG825:

 Sorry. Not enough information. Do you have a news source that gives details on the incidents. Preferably not from YouTube.



 



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If they enforced bank regulations like they do park rules, we wouldn't be in this mess

Whaaaaaa....O.o
by on Feb. 8, 2013 at 9:19 AM
Quoting brookiecookie87:




She came at me because I said they went against procedure. I have stated numerous time they are not allowed to do what they did.
And I wasn't calling you a cronie. I was talking about a real life situation my family has been through.
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