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Chicago Police Want 12 Percent Pay Raise

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CHICAGO (CBS) — Contract demands by Chicago police officers include much higher pay and something you might not have imagined.

Chicago police are reportedly proposing in negotiations that their pay increase by 12 percent over two years.

The union also wants officers to get extra money because they are required to live in the city.

According to the Chicago Sun-Times, the union is proposing a residency stipend of $3,000 per officer.

Police also want to pay less for their health insurance and get more money for their uniform allowance.

The Sun-Times reports, officers also want to reach the top of the pay scale after 20 years, rather than the current 25 years.

To top pay for a patrol officer is $86,000 a year.

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by on Feb. 8, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Replies (31-40):
fireangel5
by Gold Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 12:25 AM


I have to completely disagree with you here. The CPD are WAY understaffed. Their hands for the most part are tied as to what they can and cannot do. This is what happens when the mayor, aldermen and reverands, dictact what powers the poice are allowed to have. It is NOT the beat officers or dicks. It is those in command and in power that are thwarting crime prevention in the city. When the aldercreatures vote themselves raises for their part time jobs, yet deny the police and fire raises for years. They, along with the CFD, have been working with expired contracts for quite awhile now. But the aldermen sure don't miss a raise. They haven't done squat to earn a raise. 

Quoting candlegal:

Actually I have thought about it and no I don't, at least not in Chicago.  They have one of the highest murder rates in the country so they probably need to get to work and prove they deserve a raise.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

I asked you if you thought that police officers deserved higher pay and benefits. You said probably but police officers (Chicago) didn't want respond to 911 calls anymore. That is in fact a misrepresentation in this thread as well as to the other article. I am positive you are intelligent enough to distinguish the difference because you even said they would "only to certain ones."


Quoting candlegal:

I didn't misrepresent anything.  If you have a problem with the title of the article, take it up with the author.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

So that's a yes, you were misrepresenting that police officers aren't responding to 911 calls anymore.





Quoting candlegal:

only to certain ones.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

Chicago police don't want to respond to 911 calls anymore? That is a misrepresentation, yes?








Quoting candlegal:

probably but they aren't in the news for not wanting to respond to 911 calls anymore.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

In other news, police officers in Philly, San Jose, Indianapolis, NYC, etc. are also seeking pay raises. Makes sense police officers would want higher pay and better benefits, no?













fireangel5
by Gold Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 12:29 AM


But not all of us have a station around the corner. I have to go into a shitty area to my nearest station. As a female, I don't feel safe going there after dark. The lot that the cops park their personal cars in is vandalized regularly. Doesn't say much about the area. 

Quoting mehamil1:

She does that a lot. I already schooled her yesterday in this subject but she's stubborn. Can't change her mind in light of new and more accurate information. 

I live in Chicago. Born and raised. This is an expensive city to live in, as most cities are. The reason for the policy change is the uptick in murders on the south and west sides. Also, this policy is a long time coming. If no one is in immediate danger, there is no reason for a cop to come out. Go to a station and report what happened. 

Quoting lizzielouaf:

So that's a yes, you were misrepresenting that police officers aren't responding to 911 calls anymore
Quoting candlegal:

only to certain ones.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

Chicago police don't want to respond to 911 calls anymore? That is a misrepresentation, yes?
Quoting candlegal:

probably but they aren't in the news for not wanting to respond to 911 calls anymore.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

In other news, police officers in Philly, San Jose, Indianapolis, NYC, etc. are also seeking pay raises. Makes sense police officers would want higher pay and better benefits, no



fireangel5
by Gold Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 12:34 AM
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Candle, I agree with you quite often but not this time. I live in the city. Have a brother, multiple uncles and cousins on the job. The police here are hard working. Its the higher ups, the mayor, aldermen, reverands, superintendent, who are the  fuck ups. The ones making the big money, calling the shots, are the ones fucking it all up. NOT the officers themselves. 

Quoting candlegal:

Schooled, scolded, they would both be the same to you.  I have seen plenty of information that contradicts what you have to say.  My brother lives right outside of Chicago and people that I know that live there don't feel the way you do. 

I don't have to smear Chicago, you have people like Rahm Emmanuel and Jessie Jackson that are already doing it, not to mention all those corrupt politicians and unions you have there.




fireangel5
by Gold Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 12:37 AM
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City workers are the biggest tax payers here. We all feel the same way. We have to live here while Rahm raises water and sewer bills twice a year, taxes on everything is higher in the city. I do NO shopping for anything here, go to the suburbs for everything. Police and fire services are lacking in certain areas, the same areas that pay the most taxes and have the highest number of police and firefighters living there. If the aldermen can get raises, so can those in the city that actually work for a living. 


Quoting DSamuels:

Can the city afford to give them a 12% raise? If they don't have the extra money then maybe they should put it on the ballot.

"We are going to give the police a 12% raise, $3000 residence stipend, and pay more of their health insurance by raising your city taxes __% (whatever amount covers the 12%)." After all, the money has to come from somewhere, the citizens should have to pay for it and approve it.

Hubby hasn't gotten a raise in years, in fact everyone had their pay cut by 5-8% a couple years ago yet what they for insurance goes up every year. SIGH



mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Thank you! You get it. I'm so glad that you get it. 

Quoting fireangel5:

City workers are the biggest tax payers here. We all feel the same way. We have to live here while Rahm raises water and sewer bills twice a year, taxes on everything is higher in the city. I do NO shopping for anything here, go to the suburbs for everything. Police and fire services are lacking in certain areas, the same areas that pay the most taxes and have the highest number of police and firefighters living there. If the aldermen can get raises, so can those in the city that actually work for a living. 

Quoting DSamuels:

Can the city afford to give them a 12% raise? If they don't have the extra money then maybe they should put it on the ballot.

"We are going to give the police a 12% raise, $3000 residence stipend, and pay more of their health insurance by raising your city taxes __% (whatever amount covers the 12%)." After all, the money has to come from somewhere, the citizens should have to pay for it and approve it.

Hubby hasn't gotten a raise in years, in fact everyone had their pay cut by 5-8% a couple years ago yet what they for insurance goes up every year. SIGH

mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Mine isn't around the corner but it is walking distance. I try not to go east of Pulaski at night. Though that has been unavoidable when getting off the brown line at Kimbal. There are many prostitutes who work that area and it is unnerving to walk down Lawrence ave and have cars pull up right beside me, thinking I'm a sex worker. 

*I have nothing against sex workers and I personally feel it should be legalized and they should get healthcare and protection, what happens to them is absolutely horrific* 

Quoting fireangel5:

But not all of us have a station around the corner. I have to go into a shitty area to my nearest station. As a female, I don't feel safe going there after dark. The lot that the cops park their personal cars in is vandalized regularly. Doesn't say much about the area. 

Quoting mehamil1:

She does that a lot. I already schooled her yesterday in this subject but she's stubborn. Can't change her mind in light of new and more accurate information. 

I live in Chicago. Born and raised. This is an expensive city to live in, as most cities are. The reason for the policy change is the uptick in murders on the south and west sides. Also, this policy is a long time coming. If no one is in immediate danger, there is no reason for a cop to come out. Go to a station and report what happened. 

Quoting lizzielouaf:

So that's a yes, you were misrepresenting that police officers aren't responding to 911 calls anymore
Quoting candlegal:

only to certain ones.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

Chicago police don't want to respond to 911 calls anymore? That is a misrepresentation, yes?
Quoting candlegal:

probably but they aren't in the news for not wanting to respond to 911 calls anymore.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

In other news, police officers in Philly, San Jose, Indianapolis, NYC, etc. are also seeking pay raises. Makes sense police officers would want higher pay and better benefits, no
candlegal
by Judy on Feb. 9, 2013 at 6:57 AM

I have to say I will take your word for it.   I know you well enough to know that if it is coming from you it is going to be pretty accurate.  I know that the city is pretty corrupt but didn't realize that they were causing the situation with the police.  Thanks.

Quoting fireangel5:


Candle, I agree with you quite often but not this time. I live in the city. Have a brother, multiple uncles and cousins on the job. The police here are hard working. Its the higher ups, the mayor, aldermen, reverands, superintendent, who are the  fuck ups. The ones making the big money, calling the shots, are the ones fucking it all up. NOT the officers themselves. 

Quoting candlegal:

Schooled, scolded, they would both be the same to you.  I have seen plenty of information that contradicts what you have to say.  My brother lives right outside of Chicago and people that I know that live there don't feel the way you do. 

I don't have to smear Chicago, you have people like Rahm Emmanuel and Jessie Jackson that are already doing it, not to mention all those corrupt politicians and unions you have there.





candlegal
by Judy on Feb. 9, 2013 at 6:59 AM

Wow, it is even more corrupt there than I thought it was.

Quoting fireangel5:


I have to completely disagree with you here. The CPD are WAY understaffed. Their hands for the most part are tied as to what they can and cannot do. This is what happens when the mayor, aldermen and reverands, dictact what powers the poice are allowed to have. It is NOT the beat officers or dicks. It is those in command and in power that are thwarting crime prevention in the city. When the aldercreatures vote themselves raises for their part time jobs, yet deny the police and fire raises for years. They, along with the CFD, have been working with expired contracts for quite awhile now. But the aldermen sure don't miss a raise. They haven't done squat to earn a raise. 

Quoting candlegal:

Actually I have thought about it and no I don't, at least not in Chicago.  They have one of the highest murder rates in the country so they probably need to get to work and prove they deserve a raise.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

I asked you if you thought that police officers deserved higher pay and benefits. You said probably but police officers (Chicago) didn't want respond to 911 calls anymore. That is in fact a misrepresentation in this thread as well as to the other article. I am positive you are intelligent enough to distinguish the difference because you even said they would "only to certain ones."


Quoting candlegal:

I didn't misrepresent anything.  If you have a problem with the title of the article, take it up with the author.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

So that's a yes, you were misrepresenting that police officers aren't responding to 911 calls anymore.





Quoting candlegal:

only to certain ones.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

Chicago police don't want to respond to 911 calls anymore? That is a misrepresentation, yes?








Quoting candlegal:

probably but they aren't in the news for not wanting to respond to 911 calls anymore.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

In other news, police officers in Philly, San Jose, Indianapolis, NYC, etc. are also seeking pay raises. Makes sense police officers would want higher pay and better benefits, no?














candlegal
by Judy on Feb. 9, 2013 at 7:10 AM

I will have to  say that since you live there and I don't  I am sure you know what is going on there as an insider better than I do.  I didn't realize it had gotten so bad that the police aren't allowed to do their jobs.

Quoting mehamil1:

Because you know me so well. They are not the same to me. At all. Light years away from each other. I scold my child because he's a child. I don't scold adults. You do not need to be scolded by anyone, most of all me. 

Do you even understand what I'm saying? I don't think you do, otherwise you'd know there isn't much to contradict. But hey, we're human. Humans contradict each other all the time. Nature of our species ability to utilize abject thought. 

Your brother lives in the suburbs. That's not Chicago. I live inside the city. The worlds are completely different. 

How do I feel Candle? Can you articulate what you think I feel? I really want to know. I'm not being snarky. I want to know if you truly have a grasp on what I'm saying here. 

Chicago was built on corruption. I am very well aware of it. My family is full of city workers and I see it all day long. The corruption isn't very well hidden, which is why people go to jail so often. The smearing that I am talking about, and you know I'm talking about, is your misrepresentation of the police departments new policy. You know what you are doing here. Others besides me have pointed it out. It's dishonest. 

And for the record, I didn't vote for either of those guys. As soon as Rahm started running for mayor I knew it was just going to be a changing of the guard. The kingdom that Daley and his father built would stay intact and grow under Rahm. 

Quoting candlegal:

Schooled, scolded, they would both be the same to you.  I have seen plenty of information that contradicts what you have to say.  My brother lives right outside of Chicago and people that I know that live there don't feel the way you do. 

I don't have to smear Chicago, you have people like Rahm Emmanuel and Jessie Jackson that are already doing it, not to mention all those corrupt politicians and unions you have there.

Quoting mehamil1:

I didn't say scold, I said schooled. Educated. Gave you information about what is really going on and yet you continue with the smear campaign. 

I don't give a rats fucking ass about my impact on you. I just don't like it when people talk out of their ass about things they don't know anything about. There is more than enough money in this city. Corruption is what keeps it getting to where it needs to go. Unions do have a role in that corruption. But I will not let you lay the blame fully at their door when there is more going on here. 

There is no forest here. It's a concrete jungle and you have no idea what you are talking about. You are trapped in a well looking up. Only seeing the stars from that view. here in Chicago, I see the sky on the hill. All of it. I live it. Every damn day. I'm related to half the police force here (nature of being Irish). You have no clue what you are talking about. 

Quoting candlegal:

LOL, you scolded me yesterday?   I didn't notice or if I did, I forgot because you have such an impact on me.  I would say if you really live in Chicago, you probably can't see the forest for the trees.

Quoting mehamil1:

She does that a lot. I already schooled her yesterday in this subject but she's stubborn. Can't change her mind in light of new and more accurate information. 

I live in Chicago. Born and raised. This is an expensive city to live in, as most cities are. The reason for the policy change is the uptick in murders on the south and west sides. Also, this policy is a long time coming. If no one is in immediate danger, there is no reason for a cop to come out. Go to a station and report what happened. 


fireangel5
by Gold Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM


The city is terribly corrupt. Going from Daley to Rahm didn't change anything except the face we see at press conferences. They raise prices and taxes on EVERYTHING but we are short hundreds of cops, they cutreduce services, etc. The aldermen vote themselves nice pay raises and it is a PART TIME job! They make more in a year for a part time job than cops do for full time. PLUS they get a stipend for renting/decoratiing a ward office, a stipend for expenses, etc. But the peon blue collar workers get squat. 

Quoting candlegal:

I have to say I will take your word for it.   I know you well enough to know that if it is coming from you it is going to be pretty accurate.  I know that the city is pretty corrupt but didn't realize that they were causing the situation with the police.  Thanks.

Quoting fireangel5:


Candle, I agree with you quite often but not this time. I live in the city. Have a brother, multiple uncles and cousins on the job. The police here are hard working. Its the higher ups, the mayor, aldermen, reverands, superintendent, who are the  fuck ups. The ones making the big money, calling the shots, are the ones fucking it all up. NOT the officers themselves. 

Quoting candlegal:

Schooled, scolded, they would both be the same to you.  I have seen plenty of information that contradicts what you have to say.  My brother lives right outside of Chicago and people that I know that live there don't feel the way you do. 

I don't have to smear Chicago, you have people like Rahm Emmanuel and Jessie Jackson that are already doing it, not to mention all those corrupt politicians and unions you have there.







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