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Is this the beginning of guns being removed from citizens, or is it a smart step to protecting people from mentally unstable people?

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SALT LAKE CITY — A new bill being considered in the Utah State Legislature would let people get guns out of their homes to avoid incidences of gun violence.

Rep. Dixon Pitcher’s HB121 creates a “safe harbor” where people can voluntarily surrender their firearms to local police for up to 60 days.

“You can deposit the gun, short term, to get through an emergency,” said Pitcher, R-Ogden. “That’s what the safe harbor bill does for firearms.”

Pitcher said police would register the gun and keep it safe.

“It provides a platform if there’s emergencies in a family — let’s say there’s somebody who feels like they’re suicidal or they have someone with a mental illness or a mental dispute or some type of emergency,” said Pitcher. “Under the conditions we have right now, this is a good time to get the firearm out of the house.”

Pitcher said the bill came out of the aftermath of the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting. The Ogden lawmaker wondered if circumstances could have changed if the shooter’s mother had been able to get her guns out of the home, like his bill would do.

“It saves lives,” he said.

Clark Aposhian of the Utah Shooting Sports Council said he liked the bill “in concept,” but said he had concerns with the bill. He wanted to ensure that no one was surrendering someone else’s firearm. Pitcher said his bill would not allow police to accept someone else’s gun.

Aposhian said he also had concerns about a provision in the bill that allowed police to keep the firearm if it went unclaimed after a certain period of time.

“Let’s see if we can get something in the statute that yes, protects someone who may be temporarily despondent and shouldn’t have access to a firearm, but protects their rights as well,” he said.

HB121 is expected to have a hearing in the coming weeks

by on Feb. 9, 2013 at 1:36 AM
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Jack_Squat
by Silver Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM

I am just curious about how people will get their guns back if they do surrender them. And, why the mandatory registration if they are turned in? How many mentally ill people will actually take the steps to turn in their guns if they are having issues? Will they be forced to prove that the emergency is over before they can get them back? If not, what is the point of having them surrender them if they can just go pick it up a week later?

lizzielouaf
by Gold Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 2:05 PM
I could see where this would be of great use in domestic violence and abuse situations.
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Jack_Squat
by Silver Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 2:09 PM


How? It's not likely an abuser will voluntarily surrender his/her guns, and their spouse won't be legally able to because it doesn't belong to them.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

I could see where this would be of great use in domestic violence and abuse situations.



EireLass
by Ruby Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 2:41 PM

It's a nice idea, but like the CT shooter, if you want guns you'll get them. Remember he bought some online? Everything wasn't his mothers.

People have a hard enough time reporting domestic abuse, do you really think they'll remove their spouses guns and have to deal with that?

la_bella_vita
by Bella on Feb. 9, 2013 at 2:45 PM

 I think it's a good idea

mikesmom65270
by Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 2:45 PM
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It sounds like a good idea to me.  I think the paranoid would think it was the beginning of taking all guns away.

WesternNYmom
by Silver Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM
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I think it is a great idea. If someone in my home had a severe mental illness, or was suicidal, I wouldn't keep a weapon in my home where that person could use it on themselves or another member of the family. I would also be locking up the kitchen knives. 

LauraKW
by "Dude!" on Feb. 9, 2013 at 4:48 PM
If a person goes to the police with a gun and says "My spouse is going to kill me with this if you don't take it" the police will not refuse to take that weapon. The difference being in this instance that gun will likely not be returned.

Quoting Jack_Squat:


How? It's not likely an abuser will voluntarily surrender his/her guns, and their spouse won't be legally able to because it doesn't belong to them.


Quoting lizzielouaf:

I could see where this would be of great use in domestic violence and abuse situations.




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EireLass
by Ruby Member on Feb. 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM

If there are no reports of domestic violence between that husband/wife, and no restraining order in place, there's no legal reason not to give them back to her.

If she is already a victim of DV, chances are she's not going to get rid of his guns, she knows what he would do to her if he found them missing. Remember most DV cases are not reported.

Quoting LauraKW:

If a person goes to the police with a gun and says "My spouse is going to kill me with this if you don't take it" the police will not refuse to take that weapon. The difference being in this instance that gun will likely not be returned.
Quoting Jack_Squat:

How? It's not likely an abuser will voluntarily surrender his/her guns, and their spouse won't be legally able to because it doesn't belong to them.

Quoting lizzielouaf:

I could see where this would be of great use in domestic violence and abuse situations.


lga1965
by on Feb. 9, 2013 at 4:58 PM

 

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 It is amazing what people will agree to if you throw in the word "safety."  I do not think this is a good idea.  It is already easy to lock up your own guns if you think there is a problem, what do they think a gun safe does?

I am sure part of the safe keeping process will be WHY..that opens a window for the authorities to decide whether or not they are returned to you.

 

 Sure. How many mentally unbalanced people will lock up their own guns? LOL.

Oh boy....

                                                                       

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