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Dorner targeted by drone...WTF?

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I get that they guy is gone off the deep end and has done bad things but drone strikes on American citizens on American soil? No trial or due process? Am I the only one seeing a problem with this?

by on Feb. 10, 2013 at 10:17 PM
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gdiamante
by Silver Member on Feb. 11, 2013 at 12:59 AM

It is a blog site.

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

What is the source?

It clearly states of the American is a member of Al Queda or its allies who we are at war with

Not disgruntled cops

This seems like a fox or blaze article 
gdiamante
by Silver Member on Feb. 11, 2013 at 1:02 AM
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CBP has been using UNarmed drones on the border for ages. The MSN story is probably correct in that they're using drones to look for him. 

Quoting LuvmyAiden:

In case no one clicked on the link I provided this is what is says in the first few lines, "Their use was confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed the government's fear that Dorner will make a dash for the Mexican border."


Lilbit1153
by Member on Feb. 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Sorry but you are wrong about what you are trying to imply about "drone strikes on American citizens on American soil.

The title of the 16 page Deprtment of Justice white paper which NBC obtained is titled "Lawfullness of a Lethal Operation Directed Against A U.S. Citizen Who Is A Senior Operational Leader of Al Qa' ida Or An Associated Force", It only applies to U. S. Citizens abroad, not those on U.S. Soil!

And for your information Drones or more specifically Unmaned Aerial Vehicles presently in use over U.S. soil are not armed and are already in use by the U.S Border Patrol to help them with survellience to protect our southern border.


sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Feb. 11, 2013 at 6:03 AM
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from YOUR link

The thermal imagingcameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.

A senior police source

not bombs, CAMERAS


Man hunt for ex-soldier who shot police chief's daughter and killed policeman

POLICE plan to use spy drones in the hunt for a Rambo-style ex-soldier and policeman who has murdered three people and vowed to kill again.

Christopher-Dorner-is-thought-to-be-hiding-in-California-s-snow-capped-San-Bernardino-mountainChristopher Dorner is thought to be hiding in California’s snow-capped San Bernardino mountain

They believe burly, heavily-armed Christopher Dorner is holed-up in the wilderness of California’s snow-capped San Bernardino mountains 80 miles east of Los Angeles.

The burnt-out shell of his pick-up truck was discovered in the nearby resort of Big Bear, where residents and tourists have been warned to stay indoors as the search continues.

Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

Asked directly if drones have already been deployed, Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz, who is jointly leading the task force, said: “We are using all the tools at our disposal.”

The use of drones was later confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed agents have been prepared for Dorner to make a dash for the Mexican border since his rampage began.

He said: “This agency has been at the forefront of domestic use of drones by law enforcement. That’s all I can say at the moment.”

Dorner, who was fired from the LAPD in 2008 for lying about a fellow officer he accused of misconduct, has vowed to wreak revenge by “killing officers and their families”.

In a chilling, 6,000 word “manifesto” on his Facebook page he has threatened to “bring warfare” to the LAPD and “utilise every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordinance and survival training I’ve been given.”

Dorner, 33, who rose to the rank of lieutenant in the US Navy and served in Iraq before joining the LAPD, also ominously warned that he has shoulder-launched surface-to-air missiles to “knock out” any helicopters used to pursue him.

Last night, Brian Levin, a psychologist and professor of criminal justice at Cal State University, San Bernardino, said: “We’re talking about someone who basically perceives that a tremendous injustice has been done to him that took his life and identity.

“Now he is, quite literally, at war.”

Dorner’s rampage began last Sunday when he shot dead Monica Quan, 27, the daughter of a former LAPD captain, and her fiancé Keith Lawrence as they sat in their car outside their home in Irvine, California.

Three days later, he stole a boat at gunpoint from an 81-year-old man at a yacht club in San Diego, near the Mexican border. He abandoned the boat when he could not get its engine tostart.

The thermal imagingcameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.

A senior police source

The following day, last Thursday, he was involved in a shoot-out with police in Cornona, 110 miles north of San Diego. The officers, one of whom was wounded, had been guarding one of his intended online targets.

Later that day, in nearby Riverside, he killed one police officer, whose name has not yet been revealed for security reasons, and wounded a second after opening fire on their car at a set of traffic lights.

As the manhunt for him broadened across numerous police jurisdictions, police mistakenly shot and wounded a mother and daughter delivering newspapers in a pick-up truck similar to Dorner’s.

That incident, in the LA suburb of Torrance, was astonishingly followed two hours later by another in the same area, when police again opened fire on a pick-up. This time, there were no casualties. Hours later, Dorner’s actual pick-up truck was found on a forest road near Big Bear City.

“He had torched it,” a San Bernardino police spokesman said. “We assume it may have broken down before he set fire to it.”

Since then, the huge manhunt for Dorner has focused on an area where hundreds of log cabins, both owned and rented out to tourists, are dotted around the mountainside.

“There is a strong possibility he is using an empty or abandoned one as a bolt-hole,” the police spokesman added last night.

LAPD police chief Charlie Beck, who has pleaded on TV with Dorner to surrender, accepted he might be “difficult to find”, adding: “He knows what he is doing. We trained him and he was also a member of the armed forces. It is extremely worrisome and scary.”

Police have also pleaded with local residents not to try to mount a civilian vigilante force or try to aid in the hunt for the fugitive.

However, one Big Bear resident, Dennis Pollock, said: “I did 12 years in the Marine Corps. Give me a sniper rifle, some gear, and point me in his general direction and get out of my way.”

Another local said: “We know every inch of this terrain and could be a real help to the cops, but all they’ve told us to do is stay at home and lock all our doors.”

Last night, America’s National Weather Centre warned that the hunt for Dorner could be further hampered by an expected snowfall of up to 6ins in the mountains. Wind gusts of up to 50mph are also forecast, creating an extreme wind-chill factor in the already freezing conditions.

San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said: “To be honest, he could be anywhere right now. Torching his own vehicle could have been a diversion to throw us off track. Anything is possible with this man.”

Carpy
by Ruby Member on Feb. 11, 2013 at 6:05 AM

No, you are not.

lga1965
by on Feb. 11, 2013 at 7:08 AM

 

Quoting LuvmyAiden:

Ok ladies there is NO cause for concern here. Apparently Sweet has a contact high up in the federal govt. that is telling her that is FOR SURE not happening or ever going to happen. She has connections you know!

 It would be nice of we could stick to the discussion, stay on-topic ,instead of making personal attacks.

The source was a UK Blog Site and I am not going to take anything seriously until there is a source that lists FACTS,not Blogs that stir the pot.This just encourages the tin foil hat wearers

Drones track people too. The idea of bombing the guy with a drone is ridiculous.

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Feb. 11, 2013 at 7:17 AM
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Drones have been on the border for some time now

These are equipped with CAMERA'S


Quoting Carpy:

No, you are not.

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lga1965
by on Feb. 11, 2013 at 7:36 AM
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Quoting sweet-a-kins:

Drones have been on the border for some time now

These are equipped with CAMERA'S


Quoting Carpy:

No, you are not.

 Yup. They are searching for him with the cameras in the drones....just searching.

But its more fun for the tin foll hat wearing people to think that the Big Bad Government is using armed drones to shoot him down, along with all the rest of us poor little 'Mericans,right?

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Feb. 11, 2013 at 7:46 AM
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Do you now realize that this is false?

Quoting LuvmyAiden:

I get that they guy is gone off the deep end and has done bad things but drone strikes on American citizens on American soil? No trial or due process? Am I the only one seeing a problem with this?

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Veni.Vidi.Vici.
by on Feb. 11, 2013 at 9:14 AM

I couldn't find anything except enthusiastic opinions based on supposition. I thought that if people were going to read and reply the least I could do was post from a link to show the ludicrousness of the thought.

Quoting LauraKW:

Seriously? You're smarter than to post crap like that.

Quoting Veni.Vidi.Vici.:



Christopher Dorner: The First US Homeland Drone Strike Victim?




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