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BREAKING : ..LOS ANGELES (AP) — ETA UPDATE a charred body found

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AP source: Charred body found in rubble of burned cabin in Southern California mountains


BIG BEAR, Calif. (AP) — The cabin where a former police officer is believed to be holed up is one fire.

TV footage from the scene shows smoke pouring from the cabin.

Police surrounded the cabin in the snow-covered woods of Big Bear, a resort town about 80 miles east of Los Angeles where authorities have focused their hunt for Christopher Dorner since they said he had launched a campaign to exact revenge against theLos Angeles Police Department for his firing.


ETA



Fugitive ex-cop Dorner reportedly dead after standoff with police

[Updated at 5:40 p.m. PT]

Shooting suspect Christopher Dorner has not emerged from a cabin destroyed by fire, the Associated Press reports. Dorner, the focus of a week-long manhunt, was believed to have barricaded himself in the mountain home after a deadly shootout with officers earlier Tuesday.

A single gunshot apparently fired inside the cabin was heard just before the fire broke out around 4:30 p.m. PT, a law enforcement source who request anonymity told the AP.

Fox News and CBS News are both reporting that Dorner has died inside the charred cabin.

Officials were waiting for the fire to burn out before approaching the ruins to search for a body, the AP reported.

Authorities said they believe Dorner fled to the cabin after exchanging gunfire with deputies, killing one and wounding another.

[From earlier reports]

The cabin where former LAPD officer Christopher Dorner is believed to be barricaded is now on fire.

Media at the scene reporter hearing numerous rounds of ammunition blasting about the time fire became fully involved. It is unknown if police and the suspect exchanged shots or they were ignited by the blaze.

It is also unknown if Dorner is still inside, but officers at the scene are taking a wait-and-see approach. Thick black smoke and flames can been seen coming from the mountain cabin.

Police and tactical units are requesting that the fire personnel stay back.

Overheard from authorities on the police radio channel:

"Hold until we start mop up with fire."

"Still not ready for fire. There's a lot of smoldering."

"More ammo going off."

"Fire doing quite well. I'm going to let it go."

Police want to let the fire burn through the basement as a precaution before entering. A firefighter raised in that residence is on the scene, and is telling officers that the basement is 12 x 15 feet. The ceiling of the basement is wood.

Police captain to officers surrounding the house: "If you see something catching on fire that's not supposed to be you let me know, otherwise let it go."

Police now asking if the firefighter familiar with the house knows if there would be any reason for ammunition to be stored in the home. Firefighter has not been in the residence in years so he doesn't know.

Kyle Martin, whose family owns the burning cabin, just told CNN that it was not being rented at the time. He said it does have electricity, but no internet, phone or cable.

Police are assembling a 10-man team to keep an eye on the garage.

NBC News reports that the second officer wounded during the early shootout is in serious condition, but is expected to survive.

[From earlier events]

Police said Dorner fled inside the cabin after after reportedly killing one deputy and wounding another during a gun battle earlier this afternoon.

Authorities have the cabin surrounded near Big Bear Lake, about 100 miles northeast of Los Angeles. Dozens of SWAT officers and armored vehicles have been sent to the scene.

"Enough is enough. It is time to turn yourself in," LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith said during a televised press conference. "It's time to end the bloodshed."

Cmdr. Smith said Tuesday's shootout between Dorner and officer occurred about 12:30 p.m. when deputies responded to a call about a vehicle have been stolen by a man resembling the wanted ex-officer.

According to the L.A. Times:

"Hundreds of rounds" were exchanged in about half an hour during the gun battle between fugitive former police officer Christopher Dorner and law enforcement officers Tuesday afternoon, sources said.

Days ago, Dorner broke into a cabin off Route 38, a source said. He allegedly tied up the couple inside and held them hostage until Tuesday morning when he left. It is unclear whether Dorner stole their vehicle or another, but Fish and Wildlife officers knew to be on the lookout for a white pickup truck when they spotted Dorner driving one and attempted to stop him, the source said.

A spokeswoman with the San Bernardino sheriff's office said the two wounded deputies were transported from the area via air ambulance. Their conditions were not immediately known.

During the shootout, police said Dorner apparently fled into a nearby cabin.

"Suspect is pinned down next to the shooting scene," a San Bernardino dispatcher could be heard saying over a police radio channel. "Marshals have a positive ID and visual of the suspect."

A 3-mile-wide perimeter has been set up by police, and authorities were asking news helicopters not to broadcast live video of the cabin.

[SLIDESHOW: Manhunt for former LAPD officer]

"We don't want to tip our hand," Cmdr. Smith said.

Residents in the area were being told to stay inside and lock their doors. The California Highway Patrol has closed all highways near the scene.

"People should stay away from that area. It is not safe right now," a police spokeswoman told KTLA-TV.

Dorner has been on the run for seven days. He is accused of killing three people--including one police officer--last week.

The 33-year-old former naval and LAPD officer turned triple-murder suspect, has been at the center of a massive manhunt stretching from the Bernardino Mountains—where his burned-out pickup truck was found last week—to the Mexican border.

In a manifesto posted online earlier this month, Dorner promised "unconventional and asymmetrical warfare" against the LAPD, which fired him in 2008. On Saturday, actor Charlie Sheen—who was mentioned in Dorner's online manifesto—released a video pleading with the accused killer to call him.

On Saturday, police conducted a door-to-door search for Dorner in Big Bear Lake, Calif., but snowfall hampered their efforts in the surrounding mountains.

On Sunday in Los Angeles, an increased police presence was seen at the Grammy Awards, which some thought Dorner might target. In Northridge, Calif., a home improvement store was evacuated after a report of a possible Dorner sighting, hours after the LAPD announced a $1 million reward for information leading to his arrest.

"This is the largest local reward ever offered, to our knowledge," Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck said at a news conference. "This is an act of domestic terrorism. This is a man who has targeted those that we entrust to protect the public. His actions cannot go unanswered."

by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM
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brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:08 PM


If they keep him from moving he is as good as caught either way.

No matter how skilled one man is he cannot beat  the resources they are about to throw at him.

The only question becomes will he turn himself in peacefully (Or if they even would let him), or will he die there.

Quoting Naturewoman4:

I turned my station to KCal 9, because the other station would perfer covering the J. Arias trial.  Today's trial focused all on the 'phone sex' between Jodie & Travis.  It started getting really explicit, so I guess that's a lot more interesting, then reporting the shoot-out between the cops & Dorner. 

 When I turned the channel, I caught the shoot-out.  One report said that they had Dorner was 'pinned' to the ground.  So, I guess it meant that Dorner was 'locked down' in a cabin.  He's in Angelus Oaks outside of Big. Bear.  I don't live too far from Big Bear.  When there was report that his truck was set on fire in Big Bear, & my husband & I was taking our dogs for a walk.  (like we always do), I watched as 2 helicopters flying above us.  That was right before dark, & they were searching all over for him. 



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If they enforced bank regulations like they do park rules, we wouldn't be in this mess

connie45
by Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:20 PM
I hope that,he gives up and is taken alive. No way law enforcement, especially the LAPD, want his possible demise on,their hands. Adding fuel to the anti police brigade would not,be helpful.
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nickellmomof2
by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:32 PM

They've got him (the man that shot at 2 officers, who they believe to be Dorner) holed up in a cabin, there is a live new feed at this site:

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:33 PM
Stand off

The hunt for ex-LAPD officer Christopher Dorner took a dramatic and dangerous turn Tuesday when he stole a car from a home in Big Bear, Calif., sparking a chase, a gunfight and a standoff, high-ranking police sources said.
Two officers were injured in the confrontation. The LAPD sources told NBCLosAngeles.com that the shooter was Dorner, who is accused of killing a couple and a cop in a revenge-fueled rampage across California.
The fast-moving events unfolded after sheriff’s deputies received a report around 12:22 p.m. that someone fitting Dorner’s description had stolen a car, police said.
A ground and air search ensued, and police located the pickup on Highway 38.

LAPD via AP
Former LAPD officer Christopher Dorner, who is suspected of killing three people in a revenge rampage.

A spokesman for the California Department of Fish and Game said one of its wardens was the “very first person to spot Mr. Dorner … They both got out of the vehicles and exchanged gunfire.”
The warden was not hurt and the suspect was not captured, spokesman Andrew Hughan told NBCLosAngeles.com.
“The suspect fled into the forest and barricaded himself inside a cabin,” said a statement from the San Bernardino Sheriff’s office.
Check out more coverage on NBCLosAngeles.com
“A short time later there was an exchange of gunfire between law enforcement and the suspect ... Two law enforcement officers are being airlifted to a local hospital with unknown injuries.”
Hundreds of investigators have spent a week searching for Dorner – who is accused of killing a retired captain’s daughter and her fiancé on Feb. 3 and a police officer on Feb. 7 while allegedly carrying out a twisted revenge plot.
Dorner’s burned-out truck, a Nissan Titan, was found in Big Bear last week and scores of officers have been combing the mountain, going door-to-door to see if they could find signs of forced entry.
At an afternoon press conference, LAPD commander Andy Smith wouldn't confirm the ex-LAPD officer was holed-up in the cabin, but said he had a message for Dorner: “Enough is enough. It’s time to turn yourself in.”
“Everyone is very hopeful that this thing ends without any further bloodshed,” Smith said. “The best thing for him now would be to surrender…and he can face the criminal justice system.”
LAPD officers rushed to the scene to assist San Bernardino deputies and were also sifting through hundreds of clues about Dorner’s activities in recent days.
“Until this guy is in handcuffs … none of the people in our department are going to rest,” Smith said.
Dorner, an ex-cop and Navy reservist detailed his plans and hit list in an online manifesto — a 11,000-word rant in which he makes it clear he would not be taken alive.
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sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM
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That's exactly what they want

They have been shooting to kill, they shot two people (that look nothing like him) because they throught it was him

One was two Asian women and 1 white man


They don't want him Alive


Quoting connie45:

I hope that,he gives up and is taken alive. No way law enforcement, especially the LAPD, want his possible demise on,their hands. Adding fuel to the anti police brigade would not,be helpful.
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brookiecookie87
by Platinum Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM


One of the Deputies has died.

https://twitter.com/KelseyDuckett/status/301472181320290305

Quoting sweet-a-kins:

Person believed to be renegade ex-LAPD officer Christopher J. Dorner shot and wounded two sheriff’s deputies Tuesday in Big Bear area of southern California, law enforcement source says
Source: Suspect shot deputies as authorities responded to report of home invasion and carjacking
Dorner, alleged to be targeting police officers for his 2008 dismissal, has been the subject of a seven-day manhunt as suspect in three killings
We’ll have updates below as we get them; full story here.
[Updated at 5:09 p.m. ET] As a precaution, schools in the Big Bear Lake area are on lockdown, Big Bear Lake Mayor Jay Obernolte says.

[Updated at 5:06 p.m. ET] Authorities believe Dorner is “pinned down” in a rural area about 8 miles south of Big Bear Lake, California, the city’s mayor told CNN.

Mayor Jay Obernolte says his thoughts and prayers are with the two deputies who police say were wounded in a shootout Tuesday with Dorner.

“If they were injured in the defense of our community, we owe them a huge debt of gratitude,” Obernolte said.

[Updated at 4:49 p.m. ET] Two sheriff’s deputies have been wounded in a shootout with a suspect believed to be renegade ex-Los Angeles police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner, a high-ranking law official with knowledge of the investigation said Tuesday.

The source says the suspect, believed to be Dorner, shot the deputies as police responded to a report of a home invasion and a carjacking in the Big Bear area of southern California.

After police got a description of the vehicle, police set up a road block, and Dorner approached the officers, the source says. Dorner then opened fire, wounding the two sheriff’s deputies, according to the source.

The official said Dorner was pinned down.

[Updated at 4:35 p.m. ET] The San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department confirms that authorities were chasing a pickup truck, according to CNN’s Casey Wians.

The department hasn’t confirmed whether Dorner is connected to the chase. It did say that Dorner wasn’t in custody, CNN’s Chris Welch reported.

[Posted at 4:31 p.m. ET] Law enforcement officers are responding to reports that ex-LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner has been sighted and may have been involved in a robbery in the Big Bear area of southern California, said law enforcement sources involved in the investigation.

Dorner – who indicated he was on a campaign of vigilante justice for what he believes was his unfair termination from the LAPD in 2008 – has been the subject of a seven-day manhunt as a suspect in three killings.

Dorner is accused of killing one police officer and wounding two others, as well as killing the daughter of his police union representative and her fiancé.

Yea


Quoting LauraKW:

Is this happening now?



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If they enforced bank regulations like they do park rules, we wouldn't be in this mess

TTC2Long
by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:39 PM
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What are you talking about? He's a murderer with stated plans to kill a LOT of people. Of course they're going to go balls out!

Quoting krysstizzle:

The amount of resources poured into this is out of fucking control. 

Suspicious, much? 

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krysstizzle
by DeepThought on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM
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A $1million dollar reward on his head seems a bit much, but that's just my opinion. 

I fully believe Dorner needs to be brought to justice if he is found guilty of murder (innocent until proven and all that). His actions are reprehensible. 

I also fully believe the LAPD is full of shit and corruption and should be investigated and held responsible for all of their misdeeds.

But I think we all know which of those two scenarios are going to happen (hint: it's not the second one) Personally, I find the institutionalized violence (including violence against innocent people) allegedly perpetrated by the LAPD to be more reprehensible than one violent man. 

Quoting TTC2Long:

What are you talking about? He's a murderer with stated plans to kill a LOT of people. Of course they're going to go balls out!

Quoting krysstizzle:

The amount of resources poured into this is out of fucking control. 

Suspicious, much? 


steelcage
by Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM

He won't walk out of that cabin alive.

connie45
by Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM
Well of course many cops want this guy dead. Many would be willing to pull that trigger.

But, and its a big but bringing him in alive is what's best.


Quoting sweet-a-kins:

That's exactly what they want



They have been shooting to kill, they shot two people (that look nothing like him) because they throught it was him



One was two Asian women and 1 white man





They don't want him Alive




Quoting connie45:

I hope that,he gives up and is taken alive. No way law enforcement, especially the LAPD, want his possible demise on,their hands. Adding fuel to the anti police brigade would not,be helpful.

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