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Minimum wage consistent with the cost of living? 9 bucks an hour to start with?

What do you think of what the president said?

How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 9:54 PM
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OHgirlinCA
by Platinum Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:35 PM
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I don't think raising the minimum wage will do anything to solve anybody's problems. Prices of goods will increase and those making minimum wage will still be in the same situation they are in now.
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TexanMomOf6
by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:39 PM

 Romney was the last man standing after the better contenders got knocked down before they had a chance to get in.  He's not one bit better than Obama..

 I am Libertarian. I want to make my own decisions. I want you to make yours.

In a Constitutional Government free enterprise would work. People could pay what the employee was worth. People could leave. If a company does not pay enough, they won't have employees. Businesses would not be supported or destroyed because of an unequal tax law.  Bad businesses would fail, good ones will succeed.

Quoting annabl1970:

 LOL Then Romney too

Mitt Romney: Minimum Wage Should Rise With Inflation

"My view has been to allow the minimum wage to rise with the [Consumer Price Index] or with another index so that it adjusts automatically over time,"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/mitt-romney-south-carolina-minimum-wage_n_1200418.html

Quoting TexanMomOf6:

 

 

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I think he is hell bent on obliterating the middle class.  Minimum wage was never meant to be a wage to raise a family on....it is the just starting out counter girl/burger flipper wage.  Raising the wage only raises the cost of goods and brings the wages of no skilled labor closer to the wages of skilled labor.  Pay is and should be based upon the work at hand and the skill required to do the job.

 

Anyone else noticed the president is a communist?

 

 

 


 

IandLoveandYou
by Bronze Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:41 PM
It's the same here.. That certainly doesn't follow the "gallon of gas, gallon of milk and loaf of bread" rule lol.

Quoting steffielou_who:

That's the same here.. $7.25 is a joke!




Quoting coupon_ash_back:

In my state $9 to start is amazing. We get 7.25 and it hasn't gone up for a while.


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Lurion
by Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:42 PM
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It seems to me it's a balancing act, with different moving parts. 

For example, if minimum wage were higher, wouldn't that mean we have fewer people needing food stamps, or needing a little less? 

When minimum wage was established, it was higher (relative to cost of living) than it is today. Are you contending that we can say we've added XX jobs since then, by squeezing the real wage lower (as per your logic about losing jobs when minimum wage is raised)?

There are many, many factors that affect the economy and jobs.  



Quoting talia-mom:

Yeah for causing many, many people to lose their jobs.    I guess that is what he wants.



mehamil1
by Platinum Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:42 PM
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The more money the poor and middle class have, the better the economy because those are the people who spend money, mainly because they have too. 

This is great. 

sweet-a-kins
by Emerald Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:44 PM
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OME BOSSES claim to understand why workers think that $7.25 an hour–or around $15,000 a year for a full-time, year-round job–isn’t a livable wage. But they just can’t afford to pay higher wages, goes the argument. Therefore, making companies pay higher wages would force them to lay off workers in order to keep operating.

Numerous reports have found this argument to be completely false.

According to the National Employment Law Project, 66 percent of low-wage employers in 2011 weren’t small business owners. The majority were large corporations that employed more than 100 workers. These corporations have not only recovered from the Great Recession, but 75 percent report higher revenues than before the recession.

Contrary to the claim that raising the minimum wage would force businesses to lay off workers, the majority of companies can afford to pay workers higher salaries and continue to make profits. When states have raised the minimum wage above the national standard, they have recorded a decrease in unemployment, more consumer spending and a stronger economy.

In addition, most low-wage jobs are concentrated in a small number of industries. The top three employers are Wal-Mart, McDonald’s and Yum! Brand, which operates Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and KFC. The food service industry accounts for 60 percent of all low-wage positions, paying workers less than $10. At McDonald’s, even mid-level managers qualify as low-wage positions.

Raising the minimum wage would impact a small number of industries–in which mega-corporations make record profits.

The claim that a company like McDonald’s can’t afford to pay wages over the minimum is absolutely insulting when you compare the salary of its CEO to one of its crew members.

http://www.prosebeforehos.com/article-of-the-day/02/03/minimum-wage-myths/

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I think he is hell bent on obliterating the middle class.  Minimum wage was never meant to be a wage to raise a family on....it is the just starting out counter girl/burger flipper wage.  Raising the wage only raises the cost of goods and brings the wages of no skilled labor closer to the wages of skilled labor.  Pay is and should be based upon the work at hand and the skill required to do the job.

 


Lurion
by Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Well it seems that we have made our own decisions--and "we" want schools, roads, some services for the common good and some things we decide on our own! 

Please explain to me why McDonald's doesn't pay well now, but people can't leave? And how would that be different under your system?


Quoting TexanMomOf6:

 Romney was the last man standing after the better contenders got knocked down before they had a chance to get in.  He's not one bit better than Obama..

 I am Libertarian. I want to make my own decisions. I want you to make yours.

In a Constitutional Government free enterprise would work. People could pay what the employee was worth. People could leave. If a company does not pay enough, they won't have employees. Businesses would not be supported or destroyed because of an unequal tax law.  Bad businesses would fail, good ones will succeed.

Quoting annabl1970:

 LOL Then Romney too

Mitt Romney: Minimum Wage Should Rise With Inflation

"My view has been to allow the minimum wage to rise with the [Consumer Price Index] or with another index so that it adjusts automatically over time,"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/11/mitt-romney-south-carolina-minimum-wage_n_1200418.html

Quoting TexanMomOf6:



Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I think he is hell bent on obliterating the middle class.  Minimum wage was never meant to be a wage to raise a family on....it is the just starting out counter girl/burger flipper wage.  Raising the wage only raises the cost of goods and brings the wages of no skilled labor closer to the wages of skilled labor.  Pay is and should be based upon the work at hand and the skill required to do the job.

 

Anyone else noticed the president is a communist?








talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I'm a caterer.   I can't afford to pay people 10-15 dollars an hour because people aren't going to pay the price for the meal if I had to pay that.


Quoting glitterteaz:

That is just the point employers seem to think oh, so this is all I have to pay, so that is all I am going to pay. I think minimum wage should be increase to way higher. Give take breaks to those who pay even higher. People who work the hardest get paid the least in this country. Don't believe me... go get a job digging a ditch or a sewer.  

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I think he is hell bent on obliterating the middle class.  Minimum wage was never meant to be a wage to raise a family on....it is the just starting out counter girl/burger flipper wage.  Raising the wage only raises the cost of goods and brings the wages of no skilled labor closer to the wages of skilled labor.  Pay is and should be based upon the work at hand and the skill required to do the job.

 




SewingMamaLele
by Leanne on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:49 PM
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minimum wage was never meant to be lived off of.

talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM
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So, a fast food place now has to pay 9 dollars an hour.   Do you really think prices stay the same?    The margins are very low on most of these places.


Quoting Lurion:

It seems to me it's a balancing act, with different moving parts. 

For example, if minimum wage were higher, wouldn't that mean we have fewer people needing food stamps, or needing a little less? 

When minimum wage was established, it was higher (relative to cost of living) than it is today. Are you contending that we can say we've added XX jobs since then, by squeezing the real wage lower (as per your logic about losing jobs when minimum wage is raised)?

There are many, many factors that affect the economy and jobs.  



Quoting talia-mom:

Yeah for causing many, many people to lose their jobs.    I guess that is what he wants.





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