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Minimum wage consistent with the cost of living? 9 bucks an hour to start with?

What do you think of what the president said?

How far you go in life depends on your being: tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of both the weak and strong.  Because someday in life you would have been one or all of these.  GeorgeWashingtonCarver


by on Feb. 12, 2013 at 9:54 PM
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CorpCityGrl
by Bronze Member on Feb. 13, 2013 at 9:21 AM
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This!

Minimum wage was never meant to be the wage to raise a family and it shouldn't be.  It's going to cause a ripple effect, never mind the fact that there are plenty of areas in this country where even a higher minimum wage does not live up to the standard of living in the area.

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I think he is hell bent on obliterating the middle class.  Minimum wage was never meant to be a wage to raise a family on....it is the just starting out counter girl/burger flipper wage.  Raising the wage only raises the cost of goods and brings the wages of no skilled labor closer to the wages of skilled labor.  Pay is and should be based upon the work at hand and the skill required to do the job.

 



kidlover2
by Bronze Member on Feb. 13, 2013 at 9:22 AM
I think you mean socialist.

Quoting TexanMomOf6:

 




Quoting yourspecialkid:


 I think he is hell bent on obliterating the middle class.  Minimum wage was never meant to be a wage to raise a family on....it is the just starting out counter girl/burger flipper wage.  Raising the wage only raises the cost of goods and brings the wages of no skilled labor closer to the wages of skilled labor.  Pay is and should be based upon the work at hand and the skill required to do the job.


 


Anyone else noticed the president is a communist?


 

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meriana
by Gold Member on Feb. 13, 2013 at 9:41 AM

No, minimum wage was never meant to be the wage that one supported themself and/or family on. It used to be that one joined the work force making a smaller wage, then was able to work up to a better position and better pay but that was when jobs in areas such as manufacturing were plentiful. That's no longer the case. Companies have been moving jobs off-shore for years and years to take advantage of the cheap labor, then bringing their products back here to sell them at the same or higher price. Sometimes people have to try and support their family on minimum wage because they already have that family when their company decides to move their jobs off-shore and the only work they can find pays minimum wage.

survivorinohio
by René on Feb. 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM
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If you cannot stay in business while paying adult workers a living wage than perhaps you should not be in business.

I hear the arguments against paying 16 yr old slackers the same and I dont disagree.  I would even say that probationary employees may not be worthy of the higher wages.  Saying that opens another issue however.  Due to the bottom line being a driving force many unethical practices will  be exercised more often.  Keeping people on probation and firing therm before they becomne eligible for a higher wage is an obvious enough tactic.  Today we see it often enough with so many employers limiting the hours a week to avoid responsibilities for those employees.  Its a sad state.

People need to earn enough to survive. 

To those who claim that the poor neednt consider families, its a very haughty attitude.  I cant believe how many people think they have the wisdom to decide who has the right to procreate.


coupon_ash_back
by on Feb. 13, 2013 at 9:49 AM
No one is saying it needs to be high enough to raise a family on. I don't even think MW is high enough for a single person to live on. Well here anyway.
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specialwingz
by Bronze Member on Feb. 13, 2013 at 9:53 AM
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Tell ya what...Those sack boys work their asses off while the higher paid cashier stands there sliding things across a glass scanner and freaking out when something goes wrong with the computer and they can't figure out how much change to give back.

And this day and age, there are 30M people without jobs.  There are NOT 30M higher paying jobs to give them.  So, many are having to settle for minimum wage jobs because that is all that is available.  

I'd like to see how YOU manage to feed a family in THAT situation.  And, be sure to do it without PA so people don't bitch about it.

Quoting talia-mom:


You have to be rich not to be earning minimum wage?

I never knew that.   Learn something new everyday.

Minimum wage was never to be a wage on which you raise a family.   It is a wage that young people were expected to start with and then move their way up or into another business now that they have experience.


I am sorry, but I don't think a 16 year old sacker deserves 10 dollars an hour.

Quoting specialwingz:

So, only the privileged rich should be allowed to have kids?

Take that silver spoon out of your mouth long enough to realize that if it was up to the 1%-ers to populate this world, we would be extinct.

And, that not everyone is "privileged" enough to get to go to college.  There will always be lower income people and families.  The rich make damn sure of it.  The rich can't funciton and stay rich without their grunt peons.

Quoting talia-mom:

Perhaps people should be in a position to do better than minimum wage and have savings and investments before having children.   Then they wouldn't need minimum wage jobs to support a family.

Shocking idea I know.



Quoting specialwingz:

And then you wonder why so many people are on PA.  JSMH.

Quoting yourspecialkid:

 I think he is hell bent on obliterating the middle class.  Minimum wage was never meant to be a wage to raise a family on....it is the just starting out counter girl/burger flipper wage.  Raising the wage only raises the cost of goods and brings the wages of no skilled labor closer to the wages of skilled labor.  Pay is and should be based upon the work at hand and the skill required to do the job.

 








coolmommy2x
by Silver Member on Feb. 13, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Costco starting salary is $10.
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AutymsMommy
by Silver Member on Feb. 13, 2013 at 9:57 AM

First thought? Bad idea.

We'll be looking at a higher unemployment rate when businesses either CAN'T or DON'T WANT TO meet that minimum wage.

I imagine the majority of able, working adults in the country would be a happier employed on some level with a lower minimum wage, than completely unemployed but knowing that *if* they can land a job, they *would* be paid more.

My father owned his own small business for many years. He had several workers (grunts in his shop) that he paid minimum wage, as well as secretaries, etc. Had he been forced to pay them $9 an hour, several things would have happened as a result; he wouldn't have been able to hire as many AND those that were hired would not have been "raised" on any regular basis. Imagine that across the board with small businesses and you are looking at a very large number of potentially unemployed persons.

I could be missing something though - it's early and I'm on my first cup of coffee. Lol.

I am a Home Schooling, Vaccinating, Non spanking, Nightmare Cuddling, Dessert Giving, Bedtime Kissing, Book Reading, Stay at Home Mom. I believe in the benefit of organized after school activities and nosy, involved parents. I believe in spoiling my children. I believe that I have seen the village and I do not want it anywhere near my children. Now for the controversial stuff: we have traditional gender roles, we're Catholic, I'm Libertarian, he's Republican, we're both conservative, and we own guns (now there's no need to ask, lol).             Aimee














MommaGreenhalge
by Bronze Member on Feb. 13, 2013 at 10:05 AM
I work in retail, and minimum wage is just fine for most of our employees. With very few exceptions, our entry level employees are college students who just need some extra money, or peoople working second jobs.. Now the middle management should be making more, but that's an issue with the company I work for, not the government.
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dancer
by Member on Feb. 13, 2013 at 10:42 AM

I like what Gov. Quinn said better,$10.00 an hour.

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