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Would you sue Carnival if you had been stuck on the cruise?

Posted by on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:38 PM
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Question: Sue Carnival?

Options:

Yes. They need to pay for ruining my vacation.

Yes. I want them to have better safety and rescue precautions so this doesn't happen again

No. That is the chance you take when you are on a boat in the middle of the ocean.

No. I wouldn't go on a cruise, so this would never happen.

Depends. Want to see if there was any neglect of the ship


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The first of probably many lawsuits have been filed.

I don't see how there is anything to sue for.   But plenty of lawyers and passengers will have dollar signs in their eyes thinking about a windfall.

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JazzyMommyx3
by Bronze Member on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:42 PM
I somehow missed this story... do you have a link so I can catch up perhaps? (Sorry Im mobile and my phone like to act up or i would just look for it)
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somuchlove4U
by on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM
What happened?
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talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/travel/cruise-ship-rescue/index.html?iref=allsearch


CNN) -- It was Sunday morning that a fire broke out in the engine room on the Carnival Triumph, leaving the ship adrift in the Gulf of Mexico.

The vessel eased into port Thursday night.

Why did it take five days to rescue the 3,143 passengers and 1,086 crew members on board?

The answer is not simple.

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It involves a handful of big decisions and some environmental factors outside anyone's control.

Here are three reasons why the process has taken as long as it has:

1. Carnival Cruise Lines decided to tow the ship back to port.

Citing safety concerns, the company opted to tow the ship, rather than move passengers to another vessel.

"We evaluated a wide range of options including using another ship to transport guests, but the safest solution was towing the ship back to port. We have a huge team involving multiple departments working around the clock to get our guests home as quickly as possible," Carnival said on its Facebook page.

Spokesman Vance Gulliksen elaborated in an e-mail.

See photos, tweets from the ship

"Regarding why we didn't use another cruise ship, we checked on this and all of our ships are in service right now, meaning that there aren't enough cabins available to accommodate more than 3,100 guests who are currently on the Triumph. Additionally, a ship-to-ship transfer at sea would be considered too risky," he said.

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2. Strong currents pushed the ship north, prompting the company to change where the Carnival Triumph would dock.

After deciding the ship had to be towed, the cruise company chose as its destination the closest port, which was then Progreso, Mexico.

But soon after the decision was made, and before tugboats could take control, strong currents nudged the ship some 90 miles north, putting it nearly as close to Mobile, Alabama, as to Progreso.

Not so easy to sue cruise line

"Given the strength of the currents, it is preferable to head north to Mobile, rather than attempt to tow against them," the company said on its Facebook page.

The U.S. port had another advantage.

It provided easier re-entry for passengers and crew, particularly for the roughly 900 guests on board traveling without passports, Carnival said.

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3. The sheer size of the task is staggering.

The Carnival Triumph is a beast of a ship. It is 14 stories, nearly 900 feet long and is carrying more than 4,000 people.

Moving it anywhere takes a tremendous amount of time, energy and calculation.

It traveled up a channel Thursday toward Mobile, a process that typically takes two to three hours.

But because tugboats go slower than ships sailing at their normal speeds, that same trip was expected to take seven to 10 hours, said Gulliksen, the Carnival spokesman.

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The journey was further delayed for four hours when the towline from the lead tugboat to the ship snapped, and another tug pushing the ship broke a bit.

Even once the ship docked, Carnival officials said it would take four to five hours to get everyone off, which will likely seem like an eternity to those waiting to see loved ones.

"We have to clear all of the decks, section by section, with first priority to guests with special needs and children," said Gulliksen.

"The entire process is quite involved, given that there are more than 3,100 passengers and nearly 1,100 crew, and this is compounded by the ship only operating on emergency power," he sai


Quoting JazzyMommyx3:

I somehow missed this story... do you have a link so I can catch up perhaps? (Sorry Im mobile and my phone like to act up or i would just look for it)



Woodbabe
by Woodie on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM
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Absolutely not. Accidents happen, and as long as it wasn't the result of intentional neglect (ie duct tape solution) then I wouldn't sue. They're refunding their money, offering free cruises AND an additional $500 per person.

Firenygirl180
by Bronze Member on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM
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I would say probably not. Do people sue the airline when the plane has a safety issue that needs to be resolved or it had to make an emergency landing far from the intended destination? Not usually.

From the little I've read, it seems the cruise line was already making arrangements for free travel to get the passengers home as well add giving them a discounted our free cruise in the future.

While i do think the ship shouldn't have been stranded for as long as it was, i feel that the cruise line did what it could.
I would have to know if the problem was due to neglect on the part of the cruise line. Things happen and it is a risk you take with anything, especially vacations.
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krysstizzle
by DeepThought on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM

I said depends on whether or not there was neglect. I can't remember what happened exactly, not sure if there was in this case...

Either way, in this particular case, I wouldn't expect anything more than a refund and maybe travel expenses paid (if there was neglect). 

I think holding people/companies accountable through money has a place; but it's used entirely too often and for far too much (usually), imo. 

Mama2JoshKatie
by Bronze Member on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:53 PM
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I feel terrible for the people who were stuck on the ship, but there is another group of people that I can't stand. The ambulance chasers. I guarantee there were already lawyers waiting when people got off the ship who have dollar signs in their eyes instead of pupils. Sad thing is most don't even care too much about the well being of these people, but they will convince them they care, anything to make a buck. Of course many of the passengers could have already been thinking along those lines before they ever reached port, and the ones that weren't will once a smooth talking lawyer gets a hold of them. There is no limit to human greed. I'm not even saying that I wouldn't do the same thing! The thought of getting a huge payload is almost too much to resist for most people, if they can do so legally and ethically. The question of if they can win is another matter altogether!

FromAtoZ
by AllieCat on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM

If it was determined the fire, the accident, could have and should have been prevented, that there was neglect, perhaps.

But really, I would be happy with my money refunded.

JazzyMommyx3
by Bronze Member on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:54 PM
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Thanks for the article!
No I wouldnt sue, it seems like the did everything the good and just ran awry of Murphy's law. Also I see a reply that they already get refunds etc...
not like they didnt have food or stuff to do.
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talia-mom
by Gold Member on Feb. 15, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I read somewhere that they were also giving them vouchers for a future cruise.

I've never cruised, but if you like that I could see how a voucher for a future trip would be nice.


Quoting FromAtoZ:

If it was determined the fire, the accident, could have and should have been prevented, that there was neglect, perhaps.

But really, I would be happy with my money refunded.



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