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New Documentary "Raising Adam Lanza" (Newtown Shooter) Airs Tuesday Night on PBS

Posted by on Feb. 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/photos-details-emerge-newtown-mass-shooter-adam-lanza-124951161.html

Adam Lanza in 2008, when he was in the 10th grade at Newton High School. Adam joined the tech club in high school, but withdrew from school when he was 16. (Frontline)

His mother was going on more frequent trips to make him more independent, the story said.

Here's my take: It's outmoded thinking and counter to the latest brain research on the developing child to believe children are made more independent by leaving them alone.  Adam Lanza was a victim of neglect. His mental disorder was rooted in a history of disregard for his emotional needs for love, respect and physical touch as a small child. I would bet anything his mother allowed him to cry it out as a baby, and was as cold as a prickly pear when it came to nurturing. I think she probably told him to "grow up" when he voiced emotional hurt, instead of showing him empathy. What else? This woman did not want Adam. And he knew it. Her mistake was giving him the means to kill her for it, and to hurt those who represented what he craved and never had at their age: Love and affection and a happy life. A kid doesn't just become a killer. He's turned into one.

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TranquilMind
by Silver Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM
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You sure are making a lot of unsubstantiated and unwarranted assumptions here. We already know he had serious mental issues early on, some perhaps undetected.  You can't know if he was neglected, or had a "history of disregard for his emotional needs for love, respect, and physical touch" unless you were there.  His mother certainly isn't around to speak for herself.   You can't know if she let him "cry it out" and even if she did, millions of parents have, and their kids haven't shot anyone. 

He was 20 freaking years old!  Of course his Mom left him alone sometimes.  Gee....I stayed alone a lot younger than that.    Sounds like he had no social life after high school, so, as an activity, Mom took him to the shooting range (wrong activity for HIM, but not for millions of kids who do it without incident - how could she know?).  She was trying to bond with this odd kid.  I give her the benefit of the doubt for that, because we cannot know. 

Everyone of my and former generations was told to "grow up" and "stop whining" and school shootings were virtually nonexistent in the past. You don't have any evidence whatsoever that she even said it, but if she did, it's pretty normal stuff. 

You cannot know she "did not want Adam" and "he knew it" for goodness sakes.  Maybe she was a parent who just did the best she could under the circumstances, and he had serious issues.  Maybe his serious issues were caused by toxicity from multitudes of vaccines at once.  Maybe he was poisoned by the air/water/some chemical in a nearby field to which he was particularly susceptible.

We just don't know.  Millions of people have had difficult children and very few ever turn out to be violent. 

 

Carpy
by carrot pants on Feb. 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM
That is some really stupid shit. Sounds like bleeding heart babbling.
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kaylamom2004
by Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I have no interest in watching any bullshit on this fucker.

pansyprincess
by Silver Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 12:58 PM
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Really? Did you just say he did this because his mother let him "cry it out"? hahahahaha
MentorMom1
by Bronze Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 1:06 PM

How Adam Lanza became a killer is textbook. Go online to the Harvard Center for the Developing Child. Click on Resources on the left and read and watch everything. Read psychiatrist Bruce Perry's book The Boy Who Was Raised As  Dog. He shows what happens to the brain when children are neglected. Look up the science of "epigenetics" and read about the effect of environment on genetic expression. Watch the video "Cellular Echoes: Environmental Influences on the Journey from the Womb to the World" (It's on YouTube). The research is in now. We don't have to guess.


Quoting TranquilMind:

You sure are making a lot of unsubstantiated and unwarranted assumptions here. We already know he had serious mental issues early on, some perhaps undetected.  You can't know if he was neglected, or had a "history of disregard for his emotional needs for love, respect, and physical touch" unless you were there.  His mother certainly isn't around to speak for herself.   You can't know if she let him "cry it out" and even if she did, millions of parents have, and their kids haven't shot anyone. 

He was 20 freaking years old!  Of course his Mom left him alone sometimes.  Gee....I stayed alone a lot younger than that.    Sounds like he had no social life after high school, so, as an activity, Mom took him to the shooting range (wrong activity for HIM, but not for millions of kids who do it without incident - how could she know?).  She was trying to bond with this odd kid.  I give her the benefit of the doubt for that, because we cannot know. 

Everyone of my and former generations was told to "grow up" and "stop whining" and school shootings were virtually nonexistent in the past. You don't have any evidence whatsoever that she even said it, but if she did, it's pretty normal stuff. 

You cannot know she "did not want Adam" and "he knew it" for goodness sakes.  Maybe she was a parent who just did the best she could under the circumstances, and he had serious issues.  Maybe his serious issues were caused by toxicity from multitudes of vaccines at once.  Maybe he was poisoned by the air/water/some chemical in a nearby field to which he was particularly susceptible.

We just don't know.  Millions of people have had difficult children and very few ever turn out to be violent. 

 


 

chloedee
by Bronze Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM
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"It's outmoded thinking and counter to the latest brain research on the developing child to believe children are made more independent by leaving them alone"

Since when is a 20 year old a child?

We have no idea what led to his mental state as an adult, and to suggest that it's his mother's fault seems completely out of left field. He also has a father, by the way. Any thoughts on how it might be his fault, or is it always the mom that we pick as the go to scapegoat?

jaxTheMomm
by Gold Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM
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Did I miss some kind of newsflash that he was a neglected child?

TranquilMind
by Silver Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM
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 Um, unless you were living in the Lanza household, you most certainly ARE guessing and passing judgment on a mother who was a victim.

You don't know what happened there. 

You realize that this sort of "science" is all about guessing and probabilities, and inaccurate much of the time, right?


Quoting MentorMom1:

How Adam Lanza became a killer is textbook. Go online to the Harvard Center for the Developing Child. Click on Resources on the left and read and watch everything. Read psychiatrist Bruce Perry's book The Boy Who Was Raised As  Dog. He shows what happens to the brain when children are neglected. Look up the science of "epigenetics" and read about the effect of environment on genetic expression. Watch the video "Cellular Echoes: Environmental Influences on the Journey from the Womb to the World" (It's on YouTube). The research is in now. We don't have to guess.

 

Quoting TranquilMind:

You sure are making a lot of unsubstantiated and unwarranted assumptions here. We already know he had serious mental issues early on, some perhaps undetected.  You can't know if he was neglected, or had a "history of disregard for his emotional needs for love, respect, and physical touch" unless you were there.  His mother certainly isn't around to speak for herself.   You can't know if she let him "cry it out" and even if she did, millions of parents have, and their kids haven't shot anyone. 

He was 20 freaking years old!  Of course his Mom left him alone sometimes.  Gee....I stayed alone a lot younger than that.    Sounds like he had no social life after high school, so, as an activity, Mom took him to the shooting range (wrong activity for HIM, but not for millions of kids who do it without incident - how could she know?).  She was trying to bond with this odd kid.  I give her the benefit of the doubt for that, because we cannot know. 

Everyone of my and former generations was told to "grow up" and "stop whining" and school shootings were virtually nonexistent in the past. You don't have any evidence whatsoever that she even said it, but if she did, it's pretty normal stuff. 

You cannot know she "did not want Adam" and "he knew it" for goodness sakes.  Maybe she was a parent who just did the best she could under the circumstances, and he had serious issues.  Maybe his serious issues were caused by toxicity from multitudes of vaccines at once.  Maybe he was poisoned by the air/water/some chemical in a nearby field to which he was particularly susceptible.

We just don't know.  Millions of people have had difficult children and very few ever turn out to be violent. 

 

 

 


 

TranquilMind
by Silver Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 1:20 PM

 

Yeah, nothing like speaking ill of the dead mother!

And yes, there was a father...and a divorce.  And mental illness.  Lots of potential issues, and there is no formula.  Any parent of a serial killer could substantiate that. 

Quoting chloedee:

"It's outmoded thinking and counter to the latest brain research on the developing child to believe children are made more independent by leaving them alone"

Since when is a 20 year old a child?

We have no idea what led to his mental state as an adult, and to suggest that it's his mother's fault seems completely out of left field. He also has a father, by the way. Any thoughts on how it might be his fault, or is it always the mom that we pick as the go to scapegoat?


 

Donna6503
by Gold Member on Feb. 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM
I wish, that people would stop giving this "sicko" any more fame. I would rather have people remember his victims more than this sicko's real name.
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