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Is Your Local Police Department Using Pictures of Pregnant Women and Children for Target Practice?

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What if I told you police in your town could desensitize themselves to the idea of shooting a (armed) child, pregnant woman, or young mother, for just a couple of bucks? The "No More Hesitation" series from Law Enforcement Targets Inc. offers exactly that. For less than 99 cents per target, police can shoot at real-life images "designed to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training."

Update: The marketing team at Law Enforcement Targets, Inc. sends along this helpful explanation for the "No More Hesitation" series: 

"The subjects in NMH targets were chosen in order to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training. I found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty). This hesitation time may be only seconds but that is not acceptable when officers are losing their lives in these same situations. The goal of NMH is to break that stereotype on the range, regardless of how slim the chances are of encountering a real life scenario that involves a child, pregnant woman, etc. If that initial hesitation time can be cut down due to range experience, the officer and community are better served." 

Law Enforcement Targets, Inc.

by on Feb. 20, 2013 at 9:00 AM
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ShelbysHope76
by Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM
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Quoting gammie:

 

our own government selling weapon to drug cartel so they can use them on Americans

Or the wars we are killing peoople who have not anything to us. We may start to protest to stop the wars of killimg women and chidren

Quoting LauraKW:

Give me a logical reason why the govt would do that to citizens and I will take you seriously. Right now I call bullshit. And what "immigrants"?

Quoting ShelbysHope76:

 We think a civil unrest, do you know that they are gearing up closed military bases with armed military for mass influx of people. Originally we heard it was for the immigrants...but...who knows..


Quoting LauraKW:

What is coming?


Quoting ShelbysHope76:


 Arm your families ladies, it's coming and the gov't knows it.



Quoting gammie:



There is something wrong with this, shooting at a child who can't shoot straight is just wrong.



I feel from what is going around with Law Enforcements New training It seems to me they are preparing to have a fight with the people in the future?



What is our government getting ready to do that we may want to fight back?



 


 

 

 

 hard for me to use logical and our gov't in the same sentence. But in answer to your comment, the fact that homeland security bought up millions of rounds of ammunition for "training" excercises, then you read something like the original post and that should be enough to start questioning our gov't and the logical way they are training our military and police forces. Ask any active military member and see if they don't tell you that we have no idea what the govt is doing and what's coming.

wickedfiress
by Kellie on Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:10 PM
I just asked my husband and he asked me "What brand of crazy do you think she is?"

0.o all of your replies to this post reek of paranoia. Stop reading and believing every conspiratorial website you find.


Quoting ShelbysHope76:

Quoting gammie:


 


our own government selling weapon to drug cartel so they can use them on Americans


Or the wars we are killing peoople who have not anything to us. We may start to protest to stop the wars of killimg women and chidren


Quoting LauraKW:

Give me a logical reason why the govt would do that to citizens and I will take you seriously. Right now I call bullshit. And what "immigrants"?


Quoting ShelbysHope76:


 We think a civil unrest, do you know that they are gearing up closed military bases with armed military for mass influx of people. Originally we heard it was for the immigrants...but...who knows..



Quoting LauraKW:

What is coming?



Quoting ShelbysHope76:



 Arm your families ladies, it's coming and the gov't knows it.




Quoting gammie:




There is something wrong with this, shooting at a child who can't shoot straight is just wrong.




I feel from what is going around with Law Enforcements New training It seems to me they are preparing to have a fight with the people in the future?




What is our government getting ready to do that we may want to fight back?




 



 


 


 


 hard for me to use logical and our gov't in the same sentence. But in answer to your comment, the fact that homeland security bought up millions of rounds of ammunition for "training" excercises, then you read something like the original post and that should be enough to start questioning our gov't and the logical way they are training our military and police forces. Ask any active military member and see if they don't tell you that we have no idea what the govt is doing and what's coming.

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Billiejeens
by Gold Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:16 PM
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Go back to sleep sweetie.

Quoting wickedfiress:

I just asked my husband and he asked me "What brand of crazy do you think she is?"

0.o all of your replies to this post reek of paranoia. Stop reading and believing every conspiratorial website you find.


Quoting ShelbysHope76:

Quoting gammie:


 


our own government selling weapon to drug cartel so they can use them on Americans


Or the wars we are killing peoople who have not anything to us. We may start to protest to stop the wars of killimg women and chidren


Quoting LauraKW:

Give me a logical reason why the govt would do that to citizens and I will take you seriously. Right now I call bullshit. And what "immigrants"?


Quoting ShelbysHope76:


 We think a civil unrest, do you know that they are gearing up closed military bases with armed military for mass influx of people. Originally we heard it was for the immigrants...but...who knows..



Quoting LauraKW:

What is coming?



Quoting ShelbysHope76:



 Arm your families ladies, it's coming and the gov't knows it.




Quoting gammie:




There is something wrong with this, shooting at a child who can't shoot straight is just wrong.




I feel from what is going around with Law Enforcements New training It seems to me they are preparing to have a fight with the people in the future?




What is our government getting ready to do that we may want to fight back?




 



 


 


 


 hard for me to use logical and our gov't in the same sentence. But in answer to your comment, the fact that homeland security bought up millions of rounds of ammunition for "training" excercises, then you read something like the original post and that should be enough to start questioning our gov't and the logical way they are training our military and police forces. Ask any active military member and see if they don't tell you that we have no idea what the govt is doing and what's coming.


 

Carpy
by Ruby Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:48 PM
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By the time this latest order and the one coming are done they will have ordered nearly 3 Billion rounds, not millions.  Most are hollow points and it is an unprecedented amount even accounting for wars.

Quoting ShelbysHope76:

Quoting gammie:


our own government selling weapon to drug cartel so they can use them on Americans

Or the wars we are killing peoople who have not anything to us. We may start to protest to stop the wars of killimg women and chidren

Quoting LauraKW:

Give me a logical reason why the govt would do that to citizens and I will take you seriously. Right now I call bullshit. And what "immigrants"?

Quoting ShelbysHope76:

 We think a civil unrest, do you know that they are gearing up closed military bases with armed military for mass influx of people. Originally we heard it was for the immigrants...but...who knows..


Quoting LauraKW:

What is coming?


Quoting ShelbysHope76:


 Arm your families ladies, it's coming and the gov't knows it.



Quoting gammie:



There is something wrong with this, shooting at a child who can't shoot straight is just wrong.



I feel from what is going around with Law Enforcements New training It seems to me they are preparing to have a fight with the people in the future?



What is our government getting ready to do that we may want to fight back?



 


 



 hard for me to use logical and our gov't in the same sentence. But in answer to your comment, the fact that homeland security bought up millions of rounds of ammunition for "training" excercises, then you read something like the original post and that should be enough to start questioning our gov't and the logical way they are training our military and police forces. Ask any active military member and see if they don't tell you that we have no idea what the govt is doing and what's coming.


BlueRay
by Bronze Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 6:51 PM
1 mom liked this
Preparation for martial law?
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futureshock
by Ruby Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:13 PM

lol

Quoting talia-mom:


Yes, because no pregnant woman has ever tried to shoot someone.

Quoting gammie:


This kind of thinking is going to get your family killed.

Quoting Gabeys_Mommy:

The world is getting crazier by the day, they need to be prepared to handle anything.






futureshock
by Ruby Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:15 PM


Quoting gammie:

They are being taught to shoot first and ask questions later when it's to late.

A child almost got shoot because he had a toy gun and it looked like a toy gun. What if that was your son that got shoot, only because the cop was afraid?


Quoting Gabeys_Mommy:

I disagree. Police are taught to handle all types of situations in the right time and place. Say that one of those "sensitive" types has a gun to your head or worse your child's head, do you want that officer to hesitate?

You can't predict what people will do, especially in this day and age. In my opinion, its better for the officer to have more training than not enough. Will they ever use it? Maybe not...but I'd rather they had it than looking at a situation in hindsight.


Quoting gammie:


This kind of thinking is going to get your family killed.


Quoting Gabeys_Mommy:

The world is getting crazier by the day, they need to be prepared to handle anything.







Where does it say this?

They are being taught to shoot first and ask questions later when it's to late.

futureshock
by Ruby Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:16 PM
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double lol

Quoting talia-mom:

I can't help but point out irony when criticizing someone's grammar you misspell grammar.


Quoting Billiejeens:



Quoting gammie:

We only vote for people we trust and they have proven to respect the Laws.

And you think its funny to want someone better than we have had for years?

who are the real idiots? It's You, and not just because you have the worst grammer in the group. You and the other nista's should crawl in a hole to hide from embarrassment, I would help you in.

 we don't like being lie too and re-elect a puppets.


Quoting Billiejeens:


Same plan for us they had in October and November.

Remind me again, who did you and the other Paulanistas vote for?

Quoting gammie:

There is something wrong with this, shooting at a child who can't shoot straight is just wrong.

I feel from what is going around with Law Enforcements New training It seems to me they are preparing to have a fight with the people in the future?

What is our government getting ready to do that we may want to fight back?










futureshock
by Ruby Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:21 PM


Quoting gammie:


No one is saying that if a child is shooting you should just let them? Hell no you have to get him down. The problem is some cops are shooting first before checking to make sure they could be in danger and you can see it in you local news almost every night. This kind of action is also very dangerous.


Quoting KedrynsMommie:

When I did the citizens police academy course here, I got to participate in a shooting simulation. I had a real gun modified with a laser instead of ammo and instead of pictures it was a video simulator (with live volunteers)

I was thrown into a school shooting scenario and yes I took out the gunman "saving" a girls life, and potentially others (hypothetically of course) but the sensation was REAL- my senses dulled, blood rushed, anxiety rose and my palms became sweaty.. oh and afterwards I found out it was a middle school setting and the kid volunteer was only 11.. same age as my little sister.

That's the thing.. can you shoot one kid to save another? Or multiple others? Can you shoot a child to save yours? Does age matter if they're on a rampage?

It's a sad fact that our babies are growing up so fast in a world like this.. but our emergency responders HAVE to be ready and trained for EVERY scenario. If a 7 year old is shooting up your kids' school or a pregnant lady is shooting up a movie theatre.. is there time for sensitivity or hesitation? Should they be able to obtain maximum kill/injury because of their demographic?

The answer is NO.



That has nothing to do with the op, though.  The purpose of the target practice is to help police fire at dangerous people when they have to even when the people are children. pregnant women, etc.

the problem is some cops are shooting first before checking to make sure they could be in danger and you can see it in you local news almost every night.

ramonafrog
by Bronze Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Honestly, I get the reason. I don't have a problem. But I do have to wonder...are kids and pregnant women threatening/shooting/killing cops with guns a growing epidemic??? I mean is this a specific REAL problem??
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