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by on Feb. 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM
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romalove
by Roma on Feb. 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM
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Are you 100?

LMAO


Quoting TranquilMind:

 Nice reach, but meh....I'm probably twice your age, and quite secure in my long marriage, thanks.  LOL.  If I had insecurity, I think it might have manifested itself by now. 


Nice try at deflection though.




Quoting romalove:

At 12 I wanted boys. Heck, I wanted one in first grade.

I think your opinion on this subject says volumes about your security in your own sexuality.



Quoting TranquilMind:


 Sure, YOU are.  You are a grown woman, probably at least in your 30's, with kids.



Whole different story when 12 year olds begin experimenting - and they will experiment according to what is presented as normal behavior most of the time.    Sexuality is extremely malleable.  What happens in those early years is what you will deal with for the rest of your life, for good or ill.



It's just reprehensible and outrageous to ignore this.   So a Mom like you saying,  "Oh, I will always want men."  is just irrelevant at this point.  Of course you will. 



 



Quoting romalove:



LOL



How many of those who are worried about mainstreaming gay people say that if we make that a viable choice it will make more people choose it?



I always wonder about those people....I mean, I'm as strong a supporter of gay rights as you will find, but I love men and won't be gay no matter who can marry who.  LOL



 



 




 

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jaxTheMomm
by Platinum Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 3:30 PM
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It's still not going to make straight kids gay.

Hasn't so far.

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Sure, YOU are.  You are a grown woman, probably at least in your 30's, with kids.

Whole different story when 12 year olds begin experimenting - and they will experiment according to what is presented as normal behavior most of the time.    Sexuality is extremely malleable.  What happens in those early years is what you will deal with for the rest of your life, for good or ill.

It's just reprehensible and outrageous to ignore this.   So a Mom like you saying,  "Oh, I will always want men."  is just irrelevant at this point.  Of course you will. 


Quoting romalove:

LOL

How many of those who are worried about mainstreaming gay people say that if we make that a viable choice it will make more people choose it?

I always wonder about those people....I mean, I'm as strong a supporter of gay rights as you will find, but I love men and won't be gay no matter who can marry who.  LOL





LindaClement
by Linda on Feb. 20, 2013 at 3:31 PM

No one who chooses not to be is trapped in a marriage.

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting romalove:

LOL

How many of those who are worried about mainstreaming gay people say that if we make that a viable choice it will make more people choose it?

I always wonder about those people....I mean, I'm as strong a supporter of gay rights as you will find, but I love men and won't be gay no matter who can marry who.  LOL

Have you noticed how often anonymous forums have threads full of women who say they want to try having sex with another woman?

If it was more acceptable for people to be homosexual, I think more of those posters would have tried it, when young adults, before they got trapped into a marriage.


LindaClement
by Linda on Feb. 20, 2013 at 3:33 PM
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So, you're suggesting that when gay kids experiment with heterosexual behaviour, it can turn them straight?

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Sure, YOU are.  You are a grown woman, probably at least in your 30's, with kids.

Whole different story when 12 year olds begin experimenting - and they will experiment according to what is presented as normal behavior most of the time.    Sexuality is extremely malleable.  What happens in those early years is what you will deal with for the rest of your life, for good or ill.

It's just reprehensible and outrageous to ignore this.   So a Mom like you saying,  "Oh, I will always want men."  is just irrelevant at this point.  Of course you will. 


Quoting romalove:

LOL

How many of those who are worried about mainstreaming gay people say that if we make that a viable choice it will make more people choose it?

I always wonder about those people....I mean, I'm as strong a supporter of gay rights as you will find, but I love men and won't be gay no matter who can marry who.  LOL




meriana
by Gold Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 3:39 PM

I found it necessary to have a few serious talks with dd about a year ago because a couple of older lesbian girls (at different times) had nearly succeeded in totally confusing her. The thing was she had a couple of girl friends she was fairly close to. In our family it's very common to say to a close friend of either sex, "love ya", it doesn't refer to anything other than a close friendship. However, because dd would say this to her friends, these two girls tried to convince her that she must LOVE them in a way far more than close friendship and that she was, at the very least, bi-sexual and should try having a physical relationship because she would probably really enjoy it  They also promoted it as "you'd never ever have to worry about getting pregnant". Dd was becoming very confused and very unhappy. We finally had to tell the one girl to stay away from dd because she wouldn't let it go when dd told her no. (the girl was suggesting dd try it with her also)

So as I said, I had to have a few talks with dd about the difference between loving someone in the manner of just really caring about them, how they feel and what happens to them vs the kind of love that leads to an intimate relationship. Kids just entering puberty are suddenly faced with a lot of changes and can become confused about their feelings when they are experiencing things they've never before dealt with. To have someone a bit older begin telling them they are probably bi-sexual or something and try to get them to experience that could, with some, lead them to think of themselves in a way they otherwise wouldn't, especially with all the "it's natural, nothing wrong with it, if you want to have sex, go ahead, etc. etc." rhetoric they're faced with nearly everyday regarding sex in general.

I think parents need to really talk to their kids about the difference between caring about (loving) someone in the sense you feel close to them and care what happens to them and the kind of love that leads to a physically intimate relationship. And NO. I don't think it's particularly healthy for teens to be experimenting sexually with one gender, let alone both, especially at a time in their lives when they are going through so many changes.

LindaClement
by Linda on Feb. 20, 2013 at 3:56 PM
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I think parents need to talk to their kids about that, regardless of the child's orientation (or the parent's wishes for the child's orientation.)

There are a lot of lost kids running around having sex with anyone because they think it's how they'll feel loved. 

Which reminds me of the lovely fb meme:

Funny Sympathy Ecard: Sorry I keep calling you a whore. I didn't realize a lack of love from your parents leaves a hole in your heart only dicks can fill.

Quoting meriana:

I found it necessary to have a few serious talks with dd about a year ago because a couple of older lesbian girls (at different times) had nearly succeeded in totally confusing her. The thing was she had a couple of girl friends she was fairly close to. In our family it's very common to say to a close friend of either sex, "love ya", it doesn't refer to anything other than a close friendship. However, because dd would say this to her friends, these two girls tried to convince her that she must LOVE them in a way far more than close friendship and that she was, at the very least, bi-sexual and should try having a physical relationship because she would probably really enjoy it  They also promoted it as "you'd never ever have to worry about getting pregnant". Dd was becoming very confused and very unhappy. We finally had to tell the one girl to stay away from dd because she wouldn't let it go when dd told her no. (the girl was suggesting dd try it with her also)

So as I said, I had to have a few talks with dd about the difference between loving someone in the manner of just really caring about them, how they feel and what happens to them vs the kind of love that leads to an intimate relationship. Kids just entering puberty are suddenly faced with a lot of changes and can become confused about their feelings when they are experiencing things they've never before dealt with. To have someone a bit older begin telling them they are probably bi-sexual or something and try to get them to experience that could, with some, lead them to think of themselves in a way they otherwise wouldn't, especially with all the "it's natural, nothing wrong with it, if you want to have sex, go ahead, etc. etc." rhetoric they're faced with nearly everyday regarding sex in general.

I think parents need to really talk to their kids about the difference between caring about (loving) someone in the sense you feel close to them and care what happens to them and the kind of love that leads to a physically intimate relationship. And NO. I don't think it's particularly healthy for teens to be experimenting sexually with one sex, let alone both, especially at a time in their lives when they are going through so many changes.


Momniscient
by Ruby Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 3:56 PM
Seriously

Quoting Clairwil:


Quoting soontobemomof2k:

Quoting Clairwil:

Quoting romalove:

LOL

How many of those who are worried about mainstreaming gay people say that if we make that a viable choice it will make more people choose it?

I always wonder about those people....I mean, I'm as strong a supporter of gay rights as you will find, but I love men and won't be gay no matter who can marry who.  LOL

Have you noticed how often anonymous forums have threads full of women who say they want to try having sex with another woman?

If it was more acceptable for people to be homosexual, I think more of those posters would have tried it, when young adults, before they got trapped into a marriage.


I've tried it when I was a teenager. I was really curious. I
don't think anything of it, or that it was wrong. Now I'm married and I
don't think about other women at all like that anymore. Although my
hubby would probably want to see that lol


Inappropriate, but I just had a thought I found amusing...

Has anyone considered the beneficial effect upon teen pregnancy rates of promoting experimenting with lesbianism among teenagers?

Has got to be an easier sell than abstinence. :-)


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Momniscient
by Ruby Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM
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Sounds to me like she just needs to raise stronger willed children.

Quoting jaxTheMomm:

It's still not going to make straight kids gay.

Hasn't so far.


Quoting TranquilMind:

 Sure, YOU are.  You are a grown woman, probably at least in your 30's, with kids.


Whole different story when 12 year olds begin experimenting - and they will experiment according to what is presented as normal behavior most of the time.    Sexuality is extremely malleable.  What happens in those early years is what you will deal with for the rest of your life, for good or ill.


It's just reprehensible and outrageous to ignore this.   So a Mom like you saying,  "Oh, I will always want men."  is just irrelevant at this point.  Of course you will. 




Quoting romalove:


LOL


How many of those who are worried about mainstreaming gay people say that if we make that a viable choice it will make more people choose it?


I always wonder about those people....I mean, I'm as strong a supporter of gay rights as you will find, but I love men and won't be gay no matter who can marry who.  LOL








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TranquilMind
by Platinum Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

 Um, not quite.  I think I confused another picture with yours. 

You don't look 50 though! 


Quoting romalove:

Are you 100?

LMAO


Quoting TranquilMind:

 Nice reach, but meh....I'm probably twice your age, and quite secure in my long marriage, thanks.  LOL.  If I had insecurity, I think it might have manifested itself by now. 


Nice try at deflection though.


 


Quoting romalove:

At 12 I wanted boys. Heck, I wanted one in first grade.

I think your opinion on this subject says volumes about your security in your own sexuality.



Quoting TranquilMind:


 Sure, YOU are.  You are a grown woman, probably at least in your 30's, with kids.



Whole different story when 12 year olds begin experimenting - and they will experiment according to what is presented as normal behavior most of the time.    Sexuality is extremely malleable.  What happens in those early years is what you will deal with for the rest of your life, for good or ill.



It's just reprehensible and outrageous to ignore this.   So a Mom like you saying,  "Oh, I will always want men."  is just irrelevant at this point.  Of course you will. 



 



Quoting romalove:



LOL



How many of those who are worried about mainstreaming gay people say that if we make that a viable choice it will make more people choose it?



I always wonder about those people....I mean, I'm as strong a supporter of gay rights as you will find, but I love men and won't be gay no matter who can marry who.  LOL



 



 


 


 


 

TranquilMind
by Platinum Member on Feb. 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

 I don't believe that kids are "born gay", the premise that underlies your question.  It's a wrong premise in every sense of the word, and unassailable if you can get others to agree that it is true.  It is not true.  There might be predispositions, depending upon what has happened, but every kid makes a choice about what to do in his life. 

 


Quoting LindaClement:

So, you're suggesting that when gay kids experiment with heterosexual behaviour, it can turn them straight?

Quoting TranquilMind:

 Sure, YOU are.  You are a grown woman, probably at least in your 30's, with kids.

Whole different story when 12 year olds begin experimenting - and they will experiment according to what is presented as normal behavior most of the time.    Sexuality is extremely malleable.  What happens in those early years is what you will deal with for the rest of your life, for good or ill.

It's just reprehensible and outrageous to ignore this.   So a Mom like you saying,  "Oh, I will always want men."  is just irrelevant at this point.  Of course you will. 

 

Quoting romalove:

LOL

How many of those who are worried about mainstreaming gay people say that if we make that a viable choice it will make more people choose it?

I always wonder about those people....I mean, I'm as strong a supporter of gay rights as you will find, but I love men and won't be gay no matter who can marry who.  LOL

 

 



 

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