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Mexico Gov. admits to 27,000 missing

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Mexico admits 27,000 missing; Human Rights Watch protests crisis of ‘disappeared’

 
 

MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS

Mexico said Wednesday that it had records of more than 27,000 cases of “disappeared people” that it would make public soon in an effort to clarify the circumstances under which they vanished.

Lia Limon, the country’s deputy interior secretary for human rights, acknowledged the cases hours after Human Rights Watch issued a scathing report that called Mexico the Western Hemisphere’s hot spot for “enforced disappearances,” in which police or the military arrest citizens who are never seen again.

The advocacy group said it had documented 149 cases throughout the country in which witnesses saw police or soldiers take someone into custody only to have the person vanish without a trace. But the group said the number of people who’d disappeared since 2006 was enormous, noting that a provisional list compiled by the attorney general’s office indicated that more than 25,000 people had gone missing during the administration of former President Felipe Calderon, who left office Dec. 1 and is now a visiting fellow at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.

Limon’s comments, which were made shortly after she met with Human Rights Watch representatives, seemed to confirm that assertion, though it was unclear whether the number she cited comprised only people who’d vanished during the Calderon administration’s frontal assault on drug trafficking or whether it might include some of the 3,000 people who vanished during the country’s so-called dirty war against Marxist guerrillas in the 1960s and ’70s.

Limon described the 27,000 records as a database that contained information about each case. She said it was in the custody of the country’s Center for Analysis, Planning and Information and that that department had promised to pass the information on, according to an account by the newspaper Milenio.

Like many countries in Latin America, Mexico has long faced allegations that its security services often detained people who were never brought to trial and whose detention was never officially acknowledged. When Calderon’s predecessor, Vicente Fox, took office in 2000, he promised to launch a “truth commission” to detail what had happened during the country’s “dirty war,” but such a commission was never formed.

The Human Rights Watch allegations renewed attention on the role of security agents in a significant number of disappearances. The advocacy group called it “the most severe crisis of enforced disappearances in Latin America in decades” and urged President Enrique Pena Nieto’s 11-week-old administration to create a database of missing people to address it.

The group said it had probed 249 cases in depth, and found that 149 of them implicated security and law enforcement agents in the disappearances.

“These crimes were committed by members of every security force involved in public security operations, sometimes acting in conjunction with organized crime,” the report says.

The Calderon administration “ignored this mounting ‘disappearance’ problem” and Mexican authorities “failed to take serious steps to address it,” it says.

Neither Pena Nieto, who was traveling in Costa Rica, nor his top security aides offered an immediate response to the 176-page report, titled “Mexico’s Disappeared: The Enduring Cost of a Crisis Ignored.” Calderon has argued that his attack on drug gangs helped restore order to the country.

Human Rights Watch said the disappearances it had investigated usually followed the same pattern:

“In many cases, these detentions occur in victims’ homes, in front of family members; in others, they take place at security checkpoints, at workplaces or in public venues, such as bars,” the report says. “When victims’ relatives inquire about detainees’ whereabouts at the headquarters of security forces and public prosecutors’ offices, they are told that the detentions never took place.”

Adding to the agony of family members, the prosecutors who are asked to investigate routinely blame the victims, suggesting that they had connections to organized crime or simply ran off for romantic liaisons, the report says. Then they tell the families to conduct searches on their own, sloughing off investigative responsibilities.

When prosecutors do pursue cases, their work is often sloppy. They fail to interview witnesses and suspects, the report says, and don’t bother to visit crime scenes.

Investigators routinely “do not trace victims’ cellphones, track their bank transactions, obtain security camera footage (which is often automatically deleted at regular intervals) or take other time-sensitive actions,” the report says.

Such inaction causes “irreparable loss of information” that could save lives and bring culprits to justice, it added.

“A mother whose son was abducted outside of her home in March 2011 told Human Rights Watch that whenever she met with the investigator in charge of the case, he began their conversation the same way. “He asks me, ‘What new info do you have for me?’ ” the report says.

For relatives of the missing, the searches for their loved ones become “perpetual anguish” that doesn’t end for months or years, or simply remains a wound that doesn’t heal.

The report notes that in at least 20 disappearances of Mexicans in June and July 2011, naval personnel were implicated. The United States works closely with the Mexican navy on drug cases.

In another 13 cases, the Federal Police made the initial arrests. State, local and army units were fingered in the remainder.

In more than 60 cases, security forces appeared to be working in tandem with organized crime groups, it said.

The group cited an incident in late 2011 outside Juarez, in Nuevo Leon state, in which two brothers in the used car business were detained at a police checkpoint. Less than a week later, prosecutors arrested three police officers who “said they had carried out the detention ‘under orders’ of a local crime boss,” the report says.

Human Rights Watch called on Mexico to create “unified, accurate databases of the disappeared,” catalog “unidentified human remains” and try to match the DNA of the remains to those who are missing.

The advocacy group also asked Congress to enact a law that any military or law enforcement agent involved in a disappearance be tried in civilian courts and that suspects not be remanded to military or police holding cells.

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annabl1970
by Platinum Member on Feb. 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM

"Bordertown"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordertown_(2006_film)

Quoting furbabymum:

 Gosh I wish I could remember the name of the movie we watched. It was from Mexico and the disappearance of women was addressed. Kidnapped, raped and killed by organized crime. Very sad stuff.


 

annabl1970
by Platinum Member on Feb. 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

27,000 missing! Horrible!

krysstizzle
by DeepThought on Feb. 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM
The mexican government is atrocious. This new president is a member of the party that was in control for years, including during the dirty war. I have a feeling things are just going to get worse.
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furbabymum
by Gold Member on Feb. 21, 2013 at 12:53 PM

 No. It was about 5 girls who were auditioning to become the next top soap opera star. One of the girls was doing it so she could get money to get all her friends out of the bordertown she lived in. She almost made it when she got a call that her best friend was taken and she went back to find her. Never did find her. It was super sad. At the end a bunch of girls held up faces on sticks to represent all of their friends and family that were taken and never found.

So this leads to an interesting question, what are they doing with the bodies???

Quoting annabl1970:

"Bordertown"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordertown_(2006_film)

Quoting furbabymum:

 Gosh I wish I could remember the name of the movie we watched. It was from Mexico and the disappearance of women was addressed. Kidnapped, raped and killed by organized crime. Very sad stuff.

 

 

 

krysstizzle
by DeepThought on Feb. 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM
The disappearance of women and femicide has been an issue for years in border towns, specifically Juarez. A lot of really disturbing things goes on, including smut films. Its one of the worst kept secrets of Juarez, as in everyone around here knows it happens (I live in southern new Mexico). Mass graves, vats of acid...none of it ia surprising anymore, unfortunately.

Quoting furbabymum:

 No. It was about 5 girls who were auditioning to become the next top soap opera star. One of the girls was doing it so she could get money to get all her friends out of the bordertown she lived in. She almost made it when she got a call that her best friend was taken and she went back to find her. Never did find her. It was super sad. At the end a bunch of girls held up faces on sticks to represent all of their friends and family that were taken and never found.


So this leads to an interesting question, what are they doing with the bodies???


Quoting annabl1970:


"Bordertown"?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordertown_(2006_film)


Quoting furbabymum:


 Gosh I wish I could remember the name of the movie we watched. It was from Mexico and the disappearance of women was addressed. Kidnapped, raped and killed by organized crime. Very sad stuff.


 


 


 

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furbabymum
by Gold Member on Feb. 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM

 Hearing things like this makes me terrified to have a girl. Extremely sad.

Quoting krysstizzle:

The disappearance of women and femicide has been an issue for years in border towns, specifically Juarez. A lot of really disturbing things goes on, including smut films. Its one of the worst kept secrets of Juarez, as in everyone around here knows it happens (I live in southern new Mexico). Mass graves, vats of acid...none of it ia surprising anymore, unfortunately.

Quoting furbabymum:

 No. It was about 5 girls who were auditioning to become the next top soap opera star. One of the girls was doing it so she could get money to get all her friends out of the bordertown she lived in. She almost made it when she got a call that her best friend was taken and she went back to find her. Never did find her. It was super sad. At the end a bunch of girls held up faces on sticks to represent all of their friends and family that were taken and never found.


So this leads to an interesting question, what are they doing with the bodies???


Quoting annabl1970:


"Bordertown"?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordertown_(2006_film)


Quoting furbabymum:


 Gosh I wish I could remember the name of the movie we watched. It was from Mexico and the disappearance of women was addressed. Kidnapped, raped and killed by organized crime. Very sad stuff.


 


 


 

 

Lizard_Lina
by Silver Member on Feb. 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM
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Prisons here, unless you're in severe lockdown, are like club med compared to other parts of the world. Prison here is a joke.


Quoting Mipsy:

Yet people complain our prisons are bad here in US....................

Quoting MeAndTommyLee:

It's disgusting and deplorable.  I can't watch movies like that because they sicken me.  I watched a movie just recently called, "Get the Gringo," on Netflix.  It was about an American man being held in a Mexican  prison.  The prison was like nothing I'd ever seen before.  Entire families were living there together!  It was like a `town' they just couldn't leave.  Scores of them were killed by other gang member inmates or the guards mining the place on the daily business.  They ran a prostitution ring in plain sight.   They had to buy their own food from vendors.  They stole money from each other from the drugs they were selling.  It was amazingly awful.




Quoting furbabymum:


 Gosh I wish I could remember the name of the movie we watched. It was from Mexico and the disappearance of women was addressed. Kidnapped, raped and killed by organized crime. Very sad stuff.







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Peanutx3
by Ruby Member on Feb. 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Matt had a cousin who was arrested in Mexico for asking to take pictures of underage girls.  He had his 88 year old grandfather with him.  Both were taken into custody.  The government kept the grandfather in prison for 2 months before finally releasing him.  They kept Matt's cousin for a long time.  Once Matt's uncle died and the money stopped coming in they released Matt's cousin. 

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