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For Those of you who Feel Religion should not be Taught at School

Posted by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 7:57 AM
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How do you feel about this?  This was a geography class and not a history class.  Islam is not a country.


State Investigation Launched After Students Dress in Burqas

A Texas lawmaker is launching an investigation after a teacher reportedly invited female students to dress up in Islamic garb and then told her classroom they should call Muslim terrorists – freedom fighters.

State Sen. Dan Patrick, chairman of the senate education committee, told Fox News he is very disturbed by the photograph as well as reports that students were exposed to a story that blamed Egypt’s turmoil on democracy – rather than the Muslim Brotherhood.

“Parents are very sensitive to any issue that seems to be anti-American – that blames democracy for some sort of trouble in the world,” he said.

A Texas mom became outraged after she discovered a Facebook photo of her child wearing Islamic garb.

A Texas mom became outraged after she discovered a Facebook photo of her child wearing Islamic garb.

The lesson on Islam was taught in a world geography class at Lumberton High School. The teacher brought burqas and other Islamic clothing for the female students to wear. They were also assigned to write an essay based on a Washington Post story that blamed Egypt’s troubles on democracy – instead of the Muslim Brotherhood.

“I am outraged,” one of the parents, who asked not to be identified, told Fox News. “I felt my blood pressure go through my head.”

The parent said she was not aware of the lesson until she discovered a photograph of her 14-year-old daughter wearing a burqa on Facebook.

“As parents we should have been made aware this and I felt like the line had been crossed,” she told Fox News. “Christian kids who want to pray have to do it outside of school hours – yet Islam is being taught to our kids during school hours.”

Sen. Patrick said he understands why the parents are upset.

“Could you imagine if someone asked a Muslim student to dress up as a priest,” the senator asked. “The parents of a Muslim student might be rather upset about that.”

The young girl’s father wondered why the teacher was giving children lessons about Islam in a geography class.

“She went from learning about Mexico to learning about Russia to learning about Islam,” he said. “Islam is not a country. Islam is not a continent.”

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The parents said they confronted their daughter and told her to explain exactly what she had been taught.

“They were asked about their perception of Islam,” she said. “Most of the class said they thought about terrorism. And her response was, ‘we’re going to change the way we perceive Islam.’”

The teacher reportedly told the students that she did not necessarily agree with the lessons –but she was required to teach the material.

The Lumberton Independent School District released a statement to Fox News defending the class.

“The lesson that was offered focused on exposing students to world cultures, religions, customs and belief systems,” the statement read. “The lesson is not teaching a specific religion, and the students volunteered to wear the clothing.”

The school district said Judaism and Christianity were also part of the lesson. However, the parents said Christianity was not discussed in the classroom.

“The Christian perspective was not taught,” she said. “They went in-depth into Islam and I’m not comfortable with it.”

The district said the photograph does not reflect the entire aspect of the lesson.

“The lesson encompassed diversity education so students receive a firm understanding of our world and why people are motivated differently,” the statement read.

The parents said they immediately contacted the principal of the high school who defended the program and said it was required under CSCOPE – a controversial electronic curriculum system that provides online lesson plans for teachers.

“The principal told me it was world geography and they have to learn this stuff,” she said.

However, the school district said the lesson taught at the high school was not part of written CSCOPE lesson.

“This is the normal answer from every school using CSCOPE,” said Janice VanCleave, a vocal critic of the program and the founder of Texas CSCOPE Review. “They are definitely promoting the Islamic religion.”

VanCleave said the trouble is that teachers are not giving students the full story.

“They are not telling students how these young women are treated in this religion,” she told Fox News. “In the Islamic countries women are not treated well at all.”

Last month, evidence was presented at a state hearing showing that CSCOPE offered a number of lessons about Islam.

One particular lesson instructed teachers to provide classroom readings of selected texts from the Koran.

Students were also taught that Allah is God.

CSCOPE offered no comparable lessons on Christianity or Judaism, VanCleave told Fox News.

“I do think CSCOPE promotes the Islamic religion,” she said. “I don’t think it’s right to be proselytizing the Islamic religion in our schools.”

Patrick said every time they’ve asked CSCOPE leaders about the lessons on Islam, lawmakers were told “those were old lessons.”

“In this particular case – there’s a photograph and there’s a letter from the school district and there’s another companion lesson,” he said. “You start adding these issues up and it puts CSCOPE under the microscope more.”

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stormcris
by Christy on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:02 AM
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Religion is taught in my son's school as a part of history but not as a religious course. Religion has a huge effect on many parts of history and events to leave it out is to omit facts.

The above however has nothing to do with religion and is about sides of a war and politics which is not for a teacher to teach in school with the sort of bias she demonstrated.

epoh
by Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM
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Religion was taught as part of my history class in HS. I wrote a report on Buddhism as part of my final.

Religion can be taught. Children shouldn't be pressured to be indoctrinated.
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sherry132
by Silver Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:06 AM
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I feel very confused. My daughter attends a Texas public school. They had a lesson about Muslim's where they were taught the peaceful things about the religion. They also had an assembly for Black History, in which many Christian aspects were discussed. They have covered the Jewish religion as well as a few others (Buddhism was one I can remember).

So I am confused. Is this a bad thing? Are the parents mad because the kids were taught about the Muslim religion or are they mad because it was taught that Muslim's are terrorist?  I read the whole article but it seemed to switch views. 

Then again, I'm also exhausted. 

Rubberbiscuit
by Bronze Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:08 AM
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I have no problem with my kids being taught about religions in school.  I just don't want them being taught that one or another religions beliefs are fact.  I want my children to grow up to be well-rounded individuals who can think for themselves, and part of that is learning about the world around them and the many differences in cultures outside their bubble. 

quickbooksworm
by Silver Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:12 AM
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There is a difference between teaching ABOUT different religions and teaching a specific religion.  I don't have an issue with my child learning about a different religion and culture, even if that means wearing different clothing and eating different food.  This sounds similar to something my World History teacher did that received a lot of backlash (she was a first year teacher).  Unfortunately, because so many wars revolve around religion it's not possible to understand the motivation without delving into the religious aspect.  It was one class.  If they were required to wear this every time they entered the classroom, I might feel differently.

SWasson
by Bronze Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:13 AM
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In a Social Studies course, there is a place for learning ABOUT religions in different cultures. That's different from being "taught religion."

amberstars
by on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:15 AM
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Well the one picture the girl isn't even dressed corectly. She's wearing a thobe and ghutra (those are male clothing that Arab men wear).  The burka (the blue thing)-that  is Afghanistan.  The abaya and niqab-that's Arab/Somalia  women/the one with just abaya and hijab-also Arab women/Somalia but some reverts wear those.  Usually reverts just wear hijab with regular clothes. 

I don't get the point of this article.  Are the parents upset because some idiot is saying all Muslims are terrorists or that their daughters dressed as Muslim women?  They shouldn't have been forced to dress as Muslims-I think that is personally wrong.  You could tie Islam in with Geography if you talked about the Middle East and North Africa which is predominant Muslim.

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AutymsMommy
by Silver Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:18 AM
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I do not want a religion promoted over others in public schools.

I tried to find something I disagree with in this story, but I'm coming up empty.

The article (or the parents in the article) are obviously biased.

I think I disagree with calling the terrorists "freedom fighters" - unless she was trying to help the students look at it from their perspective?

I am a Home Schooling, Vaccinating, Non spanking, Nightmare Cuddling, Dessert Giving, Bedtime Kissing, Book Reading, Stay at Home Mom. I believe in the benefit of organized after school activities and nosy, involved parents. I believe in spoiling my children. I believe that I have seen the village and I do not want it anywhere near my children. Now for the controversial stuff: we have traditional gender roles, we're Catholic, I'm Libertarian, he's Republican, we're both conservative, and we own guns (now there's no need to ask, lol).             Aimee














acrogodess
by Silver Member on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:23 AM
Yes, this. When I was in high school, religion was taught as part of world history. We didn't learn the prayers. We learned about how the religion was started, what century, who started it, etc. We learned about Judaism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Christianity (in relation to when the church split, the council of Nicine (sp?), etc). We learned about the various clothing women wore. We learned about patriarchal societies and how women were purposefully kept barefoot and pregnant and much more. I would be more appalled if my child reached 11th grade and hasn't covered this.

Quoting stormcris:

Religion is taught in my son's school as a part of history but not as a religious course. Religion has a huge effect on many parts of history and events to leave it out is to omit facts.

The above however has nothing to do with religion and is about sides of a war and politics which is not for a teacher to teach in school with the sort of bias she demonstrated.

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candlegal
by Judy on Feb. 26, 2013 at 8:25 AM
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But this wasn't a history class, it was a geography class and Islam is not a country.



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The young girl’s father wondered why the teacher was giving children lessons about Islam in a geography class.

“She went from learning about Mexico to learning about Russia to learning about Islam,” he said. “Islam is not a country. Islam is not a continent.”


Quoting epoh:

Religion was taught as part of my history class in HS. I wrote a report on Buddhism as part of my final.

Religion can be taught. Children shouldn't be pressured to be indoctrinated.


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