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DOW reaches all time highs, erases financial crisis

Posted by on Mar. 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM
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Now that the Dow has undone all the damage of the financial crisis, it might be a perfect time for the hard-charging stock index both to admire its handiwork and catch its breath.

The bluechip index used as a proxy for U.S. economic health on Tuesday crossed the critical threshold of its 2007 highs to set a new record, trading past 14,200 to break both its record close of 14,164.53, on Oct. 9, 2007, and its intraday high of 14,198.10, which happened two days later.

Though market participants are usually quick to brush off the breaching of psychological landmarks, this one could be different after more than a decade of market trips to the top - and then back to the bottom again.

"With the Dow getting to all-time highs, is this signaling the end of the lost decade?" said Jim Paulsen, chief market strategist at Wells Capital Management in Minneapolis. "Maybe not. It didn't last time. But you wonder in some sense if that is the significance to this."

(Read MoreEarnings Aside, Fed Is Still Main Market Player)

While the move only kindled the spirits of the many market bulls, some were pondering whether this was as good an excuse as any for investors to take profits.

"It certainly isn't that we're bearish. It's that we're skeptical anytime the button on the elevator remains stuck on 'up,'" said John Stoltzfus, chief market strategist at Oppenheimer. "We just question what is driving it. Is it fundamentals or enthusiasm?"

The Dow Jones industrial average, which consists of 30 top industrial stocks, was the first of the major indexes to reclaim its summit following the market reached its crisis low four years ago this month.

It did so on the backs of $3 trillion of liquidity from the Federal Reserve's money printing, and an improving corporate and economic picture.

(Read MoreCNBC Explains Quantitative Easing)

While the economy is far from fixed and the market remains highly sensitive to the daily headline churn, the importance of breaking the financial crisis shackles did not go unnoticed.

That's especially true since the looming danger of steep budget cuts in Washington - known as sequestration - remains but has been largely ignored on Wall Street.

The new record "certainly is a statement by the market that it is looking to the improvements in the economy," Stoltzfus said. "In light of that, sequestration is not the issue many of us thought it would be."

(Read MoreWhat Investors Are Missing in the Sequester Fight)

That's not to say expectations are that the market will keep climbing higher without interruption.

Strategists have been waiting for the aggressive 2013 rally to take a healthy break, and the talk on trading floors was that a new record could spur just such a pullback, however brief.

History, in fact, has been unkind to markets that rally back to even after dramatic falls the like of what the U.S. indexes experienced during the crisis.

For the Dow it only took 15 months for the average to go from new high to a 6,547-point drop.

The Standard & Poor's 500 is within range of its all-time closing high of 1,565.15, from which it subsequently lost nearly 900 points.

"The S&P 500 may have little time to rejoice following the setting of a new record high before collapsing once again," said Sam Stovall, chief equity strategist at S&P Capital IQ.

In previous rallies from bear markets to breakeven the median additional gain has been just 3 percent before "another meaningful decline within only two months," Stovall added.

In the 11 other bear markets since 1946, five of them suffered declines of 5 to 10 percent after getting back to even, while six fell 10 to 20 percent. The only good news, according to Stovall, is that none of those morphed into full bear market drops of 20 percent or more.

"So this time around it may be wise to fasten your safety belt once we set a new high," he said. "We may be in for a bumpy ride."


http://www.cnbc.com/id/100507978

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smalltowngal
by Platinum Member on Mar. 5, 2013 at 10:56 AM

I am guessing no one on either side cares about the stock market anymore? 

survivorinohio
by René on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:00 AM
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Quoting smalltowngal:

I am guessing no one on either side cares about the stock market anymore? 

I do and I dont.  It is something totally beyond my control that looms. *shrug*

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eema.gray
by on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:08 AM
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How nice for them. In the meantime every economic indicator is rising rapidly and my husband is set to lose 20% of his income for three to six months. If this is recovery, I'm tired of it.
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Euphoric
by Bazinga! on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:10 AM

 bump

smalltowngal
by Platinum Member on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:14 AM



Quoting eema.gray:

How nice for them. In the meantime every economic indicator is rising rapidly and my husband is set to lose 20% of his income for three to six months. If this is recovery, I'm tired of it.


There definately is a debate whether this is Fed induced rally since they're keeping interest rates so long. They're basically forcing people into the stock market.

Im sorry to hear about your husband's job. :( 

eema.gray
by on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:17 AM
We've expected it for awhile, thanks to the rules of sequester, and we're prepared as much as possible. But that doesn't make explaining to oir kids why we can't go see grandma this summer any easier. :'(


Quoting smalltowngal:




Quoting eema.gray:

How nice for them. In the meantime every economic indicator is rising rapidly and my husband is set to lose 20% of his income for three to six months. If this is recovery, I'm tired of it.



There definately is a debate whether this is Fed induced rally since they're keeping interest rates so long. They're basically forcing people into the stock market.

Im sorry to hear about your husband's job. :( 


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DestinyHLewis
by Destiny on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:35 AM


Is he a govt contractor? 

Quoting eema.gray:

How nice for them. In the meantime every economic indicator is rising rapidly and my husband is set to lose 20% of his income for three to six months. If this is recovery, I'm tired of it.



stormcris
by Christy on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM
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Is it fair to use the financial markets to judge the economy when we now have so many governments investing in it? 

eema.gray
by on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Federal civilian police officer wbo works on an Army post. The way the rules of sequester were written, all fed civilians have to lose approximately 20% of their hours for 3 to 6 months, depending on when a budget is signed. The only saving grace is that we anticipated this would happen and have been paying off bills/paying ahead, stocking the freezer, and so on so we're more or less prepared.


Quoting DestinyHLewis:


Is he a govt contractor? 


Quoting eema.gray:

How nice for them. In the meantime every economic indicator is rising rapidly and my husband is set to lose 20% of his income for three to six months. If this is recovery, I'm tired of it.





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eema.gray
by on Mar. 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM
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I don't think it is a reliable indicator anymore.


Quoting stormcris:

Is it fair to use the financial markets to judge the economy when we now have so many governments investing in it? 


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